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michael McG
Doomheim
28
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Posted - 2012.11.24 22:30:00 -
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so with this recent stock pile of isk shows only one thing that they are loosing peoples interest. I feel that they have waited to long and now other multiplayer games are out and people want to play them. I feel they are taking to long on a game that will change just as much as eve has and were not even into the open beta. they are spending way too much time on worring about over powering weapons and vehicles. work on just making it work together and stop worring about all of these whiners. Oh the missles are to strong the HMG are to strong. they are meant to you dont see people putting an M4 assult rifle were you should have a 50 Cal machine gun. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.24 22:36:00 -
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And you're not whining now? |
michael McG
Doomheim
28
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Posted - 2012.11.24 22:41:00 -
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lol no im just asking for the game were i dont have to get reset. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.11.24 22:44:00 -
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michael McG wrote:so with this recent stock pile of isk shows only one thing that they are loosing peoples interest. I feel that they have waited to long and now other multiplayer games are out and people want to play them. I feel they are taking to long on a game that will change just as much as eve has and were not even into the open beta. they are spending way too much time on worring about over powering weapons and vehicles. work on just making it work together and stop worring about all of these whiners. Oh the missles are to strong the HMG are to strong. they are meant to you dont see people putting an M4 assult rifle were you should have a 50 Cal machine gun.
I think you and others are confused. This isn't a real game, you're a tester improving a product, it isn't ment for you to enjoy so much you run home to tell your momma how awesome it was to blow an HAV. You're ment to inform CCP what's working and what isn't so when they put out there final product we'll get exactly what we want. Other game releases and people playing them means absolutely nothing to them, nor should it ever. No FPS out there on console has a persistent universe that changes by player interactions and not some back door NPC ones.
And just cause I'm in a horrid mood, I'll throw in that CCP is EXTREMELY generous letting most of you even test this. Usually Closed beta's are given out to special community members from other games of the company, or people with experience and background who can properly analyze and break down the game so the programmers can work on what's wrong and important. Most of the opinions given here are amateur and seen from the same perspective a surf would view a kings life, you don't really understand the mechanics, you only know what works and doesn't. CCP is glad you given your opinions and they do listen, but they're only really listening to people who actually break down what they're saying so CCP can understand and work with it.
Thanks to that generosity, these forums are hectic and filled with trolls. But I for one am glad CCP trys to be a public friendly company, even if it's not appreciated by some around here. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.11.24 23:13:00 -
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I can't imagine CCP really cares at all if people are playing right now. The game isn't out yet. None of the AUR you're spending is actually spent. They have no business incentive to keep you entertained right now. Once they release their next build sometime in late 2013 or whenever, things will pick up more. In the meantime, let's all go play Planetside 2 and check in on the forums every few days for an update. |
Tzaar Bomba
Doomheim
174
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Posted - 2012.11.24 23:15:00 -
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Told. |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
88
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Posted - 2012.11.24 23:16:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:michael McG wrote:so with this recent stock pile of isk shows only one thing that they are loosing peoples interest. I feel that they have waited to long and now other multiplayer games are out and people want to play them. I feel they are taking to long on a game that will change just as much as eve has and were not even into the open beta. they are spending way too much time on worring about over powering weapons and vehicles. work on just making it work together and stop worring about all of these whiners. Oh the missles are to strong the HMG are to strong. they are meant to you dont see people putting an M4 assult rifle were you should have a 50 Cal machine gun. I think you and others are confused. This isn't a real game, you're a tester improving a product, it isn't ment for you to enjoy so much you run home to tell your momma how awesome it was to blow an HAV. You're ment to inform CCP what's working and what isn't so when they put out there final product we'll get exactly what we want. Other game releases and people playing them means absolutely nothing to them, nor should it ever. No FPS out there on console has a persistent universe that changes by player interactions and not some back door NPC ones. And just cause I'm in a horrid mood, I'll throw in that CCP is EXTREMELY generous letting most of you even test this. Usually Closed beta's are given out to special community members from other games of the company, or people with experience and background who can properly analyze and break down the game so the programmers can work on what's wrong and important. Most of the opinions given here are amateur and seen from the same perspective a surf would view a kings life, you don't really understand the mechanics, you only know what works and doesn't. CCP is glad you given your opinions and they do listen, but they're only really listening to people who actually break down what they're saying so CCP can understand and work with it. Thanks to that generosity, these forums are hectic and filled with trolls. But I for one am glad CCP trys to be a public friendly company, even if it's not appreciated by some around here.
Get of your high horse man, CCP is as depended on us as we are in them, so dont give us that bull.
Have a nice evening. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.24 23:18:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:I can't imagine CCP really cares at all if people are playing right now. The game isn't out yet. None of the AUR you're spending is actually spent. They have no business incentive to keep you entertained right now. Once they release their next build sometime in late 2013 or whenever, things will pick up more. In the meantime, let's all go play Planetside 2 and check in on the forums every few days for an update.
I wish I could play Planet Side 2 |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.11.24 23:27:00 -
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lordjanuz wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:michael McG wrote:so with this recent stock pile of isk shows only one thing that they are loosing peoples interest. I feel that they have waited to long and now other multiplayer games are out and people want to play them. I feel they are taking to long on a game that will change just as much as eve has and were not even into the open beta. they are spending way too much time on worring about over powering weapons and vehicles. work on just making it work together and stop worring about all of these whiners. Oh the missles are to strong the HMG are to strong. they are meant to you dont see people putting an M4 assult rifle were you should have a 50 Cal machine gun. I think you and others are confused. This isn't a real game, you're a tester improving a product, it isn't ment for you to enjoy so much you run home to tell your momma how awesome it was to blow an HAV. You're ment to inform CCP what's working and what isn't so when they put out there final product we'll get exactly what we want. Other game releases and people playing them means absolutely nothing to them, nor should it ever. No FPS out there on console has a persistent universe that changes by player interactions and not some back door NPC ones. And just cause I'm in a horrid mood, I'll throw in that CCP is EXTREMELY generous letting most of you even test this. Usually Closed beta's are given out to special community members from other games of the company, or people with experience and background who can properly analyze and break down the game so the programmers can work on what's wrong and important. Most of the opinions given here are amateur and seen from the same perspective a surf would view a kings life, you don't really understand the mechanics, you only know what works and doesn't. CCP is glad you given your opinions and they do listen, but they're only really listening to people who actually break down what they're saying so CCP can understand and work with it. Thanks to that generosity, these forums are hectic and filled with trolls. But I for one am glad CCP trys to be a public friendly company, even if it's not appreciated by some around here. Get of your high horse man, CCP is as depended on us as we are in them, so dont give us that bull. Have a nice evening. This is what I'm saying, comments without substance. You say something and expect everyone to fill in the dots for you? How is CCP depending on us as far as dust goes? Are you saying they absolutely need testers to progress? Because, you don't have to be that tester, it could be someone who actually knows what they're doing, not just some bored guy. when the game comes out it'll be popular by it's gameplay and how well casual gamers take to it, not cult fanatics who want the beta to fulfill there dreams.
And sorry if I come off as being on a high horse, awful day for me. This is a nice place to blow off steam ^_^ |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.11.24 23:46:00 -
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CCP is performing an experiment, not trying to bribe you.
They lower the price of one thing and hand out money to encourage its use so they can crunch he numbers on how effective it is. Most of our utility to them comes from those numbers, how many of what weapons killed how many of what dropsuits and vehicles. It's statistical analysis of the ecosystem. Each action we take is recorded an amassed for analysis.
Our forum feedback is a secondary utility, and only a comparative handful of us contribute here. |
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CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
83
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Posted - 2012.11.24 23:48:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:I can't imagine CCP really cares at all if people are playing right now. The game isn't out yet. None of the AUR you're spending is actually spent. They have no business incentive to keep you entertained right now. Once they release their next build sometime in late 2013 or whenever, things will pick up more. In the meantime, let's all go play Planetside 2 and check in on the forums every few days for an update. I wish I could play Planet Side 2 Played it trust me its nothing special.Beside even some of my friend who freaked out over planetside 2 for years got bored in no time.Planetside 2 is great but repetitive.Missing it would be like missing out on BF3 which got boring in a month |
Conraire
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.11.24 23:54:00 -
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SoTa is right when it comes down to it. I know I've contributed. Pointed out exactly how to reproduce some of the Server error bugs with the market and all. Also Offered constructive criticism on proper balancing of weapons, and input on new weapons that would be inline with the EVE universe and good to see in game. Being a beta thats what we're here for. And technically this is still closed beta as they haven't got anywhere near all the release content in.
He is right though, less people have been playing the beta. I'm one of them. Got irritated with the game imbalance, and the lack of forward progress or updates on what they're planning to do to fix the situation. At least with EVE, you get regular DEV blogs describing what they're working on, or planning to implement to fix bugs, or balance issues, or when new content will be coming. I've been enjoying my break though, Beta testing Mechwarrior Online, messing around with some older games off GOG, etc. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.11.25 00:08:00 -
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Conraire wrote:SoTa is right when it comes down to it. I know I've contributed. Pointed out exactly how to reproduce some of the Server error bugs with the market and all. Also Offered constructive criticism on proper balancing of weapons, and input on new weapons that would be inline with the EVE universe and good to see in game. Being a beta thats what we're here for. And technically this is still closed beta as they haven't got anywhere near all the release content in.
He is right though, less people have been playing the beta. I'm one of them. Got irritated with the game imbalance, and the lack of forward progress or updates on what they're planning to do to fix the situation. At least with EVE, you get regular DEV blogs describing what they're working on, or planning to implement to fix bugs, or balance issues, or when new content will be coming. I've been enjoying my break though, Beta testing Mechwarrior Online, messing around with some older games off GOG, etc. Wanted in on Mechwarrior so bad. Then I realized I use a mac. Died a little inside. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.11.25 00:11:00 -
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another problem is that with the recent missile nerf alot off players have lost their ability to compete. Just think about it what would you do when your assault rifles do only 10HP damage per hit and that on a duvolle. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.25 00:31:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:another problem is that with the recent missile nerf alot off players have lost their ability to compete. Just think about it what would you do when your assault rifles do only 10HP damage per hit and that on a duvolle.
Amazing!?!(jk) |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.11.25 00:36:00 -
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I used to be interested , but after this build I no longer care |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.25 00:38:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:I used to be interested , but after this build I no longer care
No longer care about what? |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
88
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Posted - 2012.11.25 01:08:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:lordjanuz wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:michael McG wrote:so with this recent stock pile of isk shows only one thing that they are loosing peoples interest. I feel that they have waited to long and now other multiplayer games are out and people want to play them. I feel they are taking to long on a game that will change just as much as eve has and were not even into the open beta. they are spending way too much time on worring about over powering weapons and vehicles. work on just making it work together and stop worring about all of these whiners. Oh the missles are to strong the HMG are to strong. they are meant to you dont see people putting an M4 assult rifle were you should have a 50 Cal machine gun. I think you and others are confused. This isn't a real game, you're a tester improving a product, it isn't ment for you to enjoy so much you run home to tell your momma how awesome it was to blow an HAV. You're ment to inform CCP what's working and what isn't so when they put out there final product we'll get exactly what we want. Other game releases and people playing them means absolutely nothing to them, nor should it ever. No FPS out there on console has a persistent universe that changes by player interactions and not some back door NPC ones. And just cause I'm in a horrid mood, I'll throw in that CCP is EXTREMELY generous letting most of you even test this. Usually Closed beta's are given out to special community members from other games of the company, or people with experience and background who can properly analyze and break down the game so the programmers can work on what's wrong and important. Most of the opinions given here are amateur and seen from the same perspective a surf would view a kings life, you don't really understand the mechanics, you only know what works and doesn't. CCP is glad you given your opinions and they do listen, but they're only really listening to people who actually break down what they're saying so CCP can understand and work with it. Thanks to that generosity, these forums are hectic and filled with trolls. But I for one am glad CCP trys to be a public friendly company, even if it's not appreciated by some around here. Get of your high horse man, CCP is as depended on us as we are in them, so dont give us that bull. Have a nice evening. This is what I'm saying, comments without substance. You say something and expect everyone to fill in the dots for you? How is CCP depending on us as far as dust goes? Are you saying they absolutely need testers to progress? Because, you don't have to be that tester, it could be someone who actually knows what they're doing, not just some bored guy. when the game comes out it'll be popular by it's gameplay and how well casual gamers take to it, not cult fanatics who want the beta to fulfill there dreams. And sorry if I come off as being on a high horse, awful day for me. This is a nice place to blow off steam ^_^
Thats ok, but what I dont like is that peoples get judged , you dont now what they have in their cargo, I was on all event CCP had on fanfest this year. All the plans they showed us and all the consept drawings from the game. Many of us have diffrent background and different cargo, but I asume we all whant a better game. I dont have more say than others.
And planning to go up there and meet the devs and ask them questions. But thats me and I dont judge others when they say something.
What I do hope is to be better in writing english , sorry. See you on the battlefield.
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.11.25 01:29:00 -
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lordjanuz wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:lordjanuz wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:michael McG wrote:so with this recent stock pile of isk shows only one thing that they are loosing peoples interest. I feel that they have waited to long and now other multiplayer games are out and people want to play them. I feel they are taking to long on a game that will change just as much as eve has and were not even into the open beta. they are spending way too much time on worring about over powering weapons and vehicles. work on just making it work together and stop worring about all of these whiners. Oh the missles are to strong the HMG are to strong. they are meant to you dont see people putting an M4 assult rifle were you should have a 50 Cal machine gun. I think you and others are confused. This isn't a real game, you're a tester improving a product, it isn't ment for you to enjoy so much you run home to tell your momma how awesome it was to blow an HAV. You're ment to inform CCP what's working and what isn't so when they put out there final product we'll get exactly what we want. Other game releases and people playing them means absolutely nothing to them, nor should it ever. No FPS out there on console has a persistent universe that changes by player interactions and not some back door NPC ones. And just cause I'm in a horrid mood, I'll throw in that CCP is EXTREMELY generous letting most of you even test this. Usually Closed beta's are given out to special community members from other games of the company, or people with experience and background who can properly analyze and break down the game so the programmers can work on what's wrong and important. Most of the opinions given here are amateur and seen from the same perspective a surf would view a kings life, you don't really understand the mechanics, you only know what works and doesn't. CCP is glad you given your opinions and they do listen, but they're only really listening to people who actually break down what they're saying so CCP can understand and work with it. Thanks to that generosity, these forums are hectic and filled with trolls. But I for one am glad CCP trys to be a public friendly company, even if it's not appreciated by some around here. Get of your high horse man, CCP is as depended on us as we are in them, so dont give us that bull. Have a nice evening. This is what I'm saying, comments without substance. You say something and expect everyone to fill in the dots for you? How is CCP depending on us as far as dust goes? Are you saying they absolutely need testers to progress? Because, you don't have to be that tester, it could be someone who actually knows what they're doing, not just some bored guy. when the game comes out it'll be popular by it's gameplay and how well casual gamers take to it, not cult fanatics who want the beta to fulfill there dreams. And sorry if I come off as being on a high horse, awful day for me. This is a nice place to blow off steam ^_^ Thats ok, but what I dont like is that peoples get judged , you dont now what they have in their cargo, I was on all event CCP had on fanfest this year. All the plans they showed us and all the consept drawings from the game. Many of us have diffrent background and different cargo, but I asume we all whant a better game. I dont have more say than others. And planning to go up there and meet the devs and ask them questions. But thats me and I dont judge others when they say something. What I do hope is to be better in writing english , sorry. See you on the battlefield. Long as I can comprehend I don't grammar **** lol
And it's players like you that drive CCP to be there best.
Wow n a z i is censored? but not republicans? :( |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.11.25 02:20:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:I used to be interested , but after this build I no longer care No longer care about what?
Dosn't need a genious to work it out |
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Tzaar Bomba
Doomheim
174
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Posted - 2012.11.25 02:23:00 -
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Two plus two is pi. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.25 02:23:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:I used to be interested , but after this build I no longer care No longer care about what? Dosn't need a genious to work it out
No longer interested in the beta then why you here?
Or no longer interested in people losing interest in the beta? |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.11.25 02:28:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:I used to be interested , but after this build I no longer care No longer care about what? Dosn't need a genious to work it out No longer interested in the beta then why you here? Or no longer interested in people losing interest in the beta? Is it possible to not be interested but still care about the outcome? That may explain things here ;o |
VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
149
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Posted - 2012.11.25 07:29:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:another problem is that with the recent missile nerf alot off players have lost their ability to compete. Just think about it what would you do when your assault rifles do only 10HP damage per hit and that on a duvolle.
There is a perfectly good way to get around this. Alt switching passive SP from start of cap period to end. |
Tyrus 4
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
83
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Posted - 2012.11.25 07:51:00 -
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in general, Console FPS players have a different definition of "Beta".
to them, Beta = Advance Demo for Marketing Purposes. because that is how Console developers release their games. about a month or so before the game launches, they do a "Multiplayer Beta." which is basically little more than just a demo of the finished game. the game is more or less complete, but with the Multiplayer Beta, you only get a small part of the game to play with. but there really isn't any meaningful testing or feedback.
thats what people are expecting of this game. thats why we get posts like this one.
but this is more like a MMORPG Beta, where specific things get tested, then tweaked, then tested, then tweaked, for months and months on end before the game is actually ready to release.
this is an Actual Beta. not a Glorified Demo Beta, like most console shooters have. Its going to take a long time and a lot of changes before the game takes full shape. Complaining about how much the game sucks compared to some other game and the player population and people playing other games does no good here.
on topic, The purpose of the ISK fest event had nothing to do with the amount of players playing the Beta. I thought by now it would have been obvious, that the purpose of the ISK Fest event, was to get lots of people rolling in vehicles in order to test the severity of the Missile Nerf. |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.11.25 09:06:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:michael McG wrote:so with this recent stock pile of isk shows only one thing that they are loosing peoples interest. I feel that they have waited to long and now other multiplayer games are out and people want to play them. I feel they are taking to long on a game that will change just as much as eve has and were not even into the open beta. they are spending way too much time on worring about over powering weapons and vehicles. work on just making it work together and stop worring about all of these whiners. Oh the missles are to strong the HMG are to strong. they are meant to you dont see people putting an M4 assult rifle were you should have a 50 Cal machine gun. I think you and others are confused. This isn't a real game, you're a tester improving a product, it isn't ment for you to enjoy so much you run home to tell your momma how awesome it was to blow an HAV. You're ment to inform CCP what's working and what isn't so when they put out there final product we'll get exactly what we want. Other game releases and people playing them means absolutely nothing to them, nor should it ever. No FPS out there on console has a persistent universe that changes by player interactions and not some back door NPC ones. And just cause I'm in a horrid mood, I'll throw in that CCP is EXTREMELY generous letting most of you even test this. Usually Closed beta's are given out to special community members from other games of the company, or people with experience and background who can properly analyze and break down the game so the programmers can work on what's wrong and important. Most of the opinions given here are amateur and seen from the same perspective a surf would view a kings life, you don't really understand the mechanics, you only know what works and doesn't. CCP is glad you given your opinions and they do listen, but they're only really listening to people who actually break down what they're saying so CCP can understand and work with it. Thanks to that generosity, these forums are hectic and filled with trolls. But I for one am glad CCP trys to be a public friendly company, even if it's not appreciated by some around here.
ding ding ding
this is NOT dust 514. trust me. The final product won't resemble what we have now. Even the current build is nothing like the 1st one 2 months ago.
And we have like 5 months untill open beta! |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.11.25 19:10:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:I used to be interested , but after this build I no longer care No longer care about what? Dosn't need a genious to work it out No longer interested in the beta then why you here? Or no longer interested in people losing interest in the beta? Is it possible to not be interested but still care about the outcome? That may explain things here ;o
You sir hit the nail on the head +1.
I still pop on here to see if they can manage to get the game back on track
ie, how it started out not what it is now.
@Tryus4 how are specific things getting tested when we are not asked by ccp to test a certian aspects of the game, thers no structure to it , it's just a free for all |
MassiveNine
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
100
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Posted - 2012.11.25 20:40:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:I used to be interested , but after this build I no longer care No longer care about what? Dosn't need a genious to work it out
Says the guy who doesn't care about the game but still frequents the forums |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.11.25 23:30:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:I used to be interested , but after this build I no longer care No longer care about what? Dosn't need a genious to work it out Says the guy who doesn't care about the game but still frequents the forums
How many builds have you been here for ?
I use the forum to see if the game reverts back to the previous builds that although buggy were much more fun to play than the current sloooooooooooooooooow build , that looks pretty but has has lost a lot in player satisfaction.. |
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