Or make it so we can corp deploy in full. Corps are where its at. Sorry, but teamwork will always trump non teamwork.

Or make it so we can corp deploy in full. Corps are where its at. Sorry, but teamwork will always trump non teamwork.

If i may refer you to this link here we'll gladly run and gun with thought process.

ccp should nerf whoever did this to you. While they are at it, they should make sure players that claim they are classy, respectful, and hate trolls get an advantage. After all they are the reason ccp made this game in the first place.

CCP should also track stats on being nice and respectful that way when it comes time to get hired for nullsec alliances the EvE nerds know which ones will produce the most friendly gg posts after losing.

welcome to dust olav

Trolls will be trolls: what the OP is saying is that truly casual players should have the option of being able to stand a chance. Something like a no-premade queue (dare I say like CoD?) with slightly less rewards would work for this.

However, once we get everything like factional warfare vs nullsec corp warfare, we won't need these because corps and casuals will naturally gravitate to different types of warfare.

You'll notice its not about one corp in a Public Match, it really does depend who's playing, even without Comms. I've seen a Team with a full Squad of Imperfects, SI and WTF all in one match, with a couple of randoms, against 16 randoms (NPC corps and player corps, no actual groups though). These guys don't communicate with eachother throughout the fight, they stick to their own comms yet won by a landslide. Reason being, they know what they're doing. It's never going to be fair, because even though players don't communicate, you'll have 4 squads working by themselves and they'll still do a lot better than 16 guys with no comms whatsoever.

will never understand how ppl can go into pubs with 2+ squads on 1 side vs randoms and find that fun

Ok so I just got out of one of the worst games i've ever played. The enemy took out all of our clones, all 80 while they were only left with 65 left and we were trying very hard, we had snipers, heavy machine guns, we had the works. what was the difference? They were a corp. how can I tell? well i'm pretty sure complete strangers don't move in a pact. these guys were to organized to be just random people meeting in a game.

Now I did reconize allot of the people from another run in. It sucks how big squads like that can get into games with people who just want to play and they just own everything and were left with 10 deaths 3 kills... would there be any possible way to... fix that maybe? Not saying get rid of squads just make it so the big organized crops can't get into random games.

just an idea, i'm not complaining, I love challenges but when they own the floor and wipe it with us... there's no challenge just defeat.

Ok so I just got out of one of the worst games i've ever played. The enemy took out all of our clones, all 80 while they were only left with 65 left and we were trying very hard, we had snipers, heavy machine guns, we had the works. what was the difference? They were a corp. how can I tell? well i'm pretty sure complete strangers don't move in a pact. these guys were to organized to be just random people meeting in a game.

Now I did reconize allot of the people from another run in. It sucks how big squads like that can get into games with people who just want to play and they just own everything and were left with 10 deaths 3 kills... would there be any possible way to... fix that maybe? Not saying get rid of squads just make it so the big organized crops can't get into random games.

just an idea, i'm not complaining, I love challenges but when they own the floor and wipe it with us... there's no challenge just defeat.

The number 1 rule in Dust/EVE is to find a corp, did you think you could make sovereignty solo?

hisec isnt about sov tho :/

I agree with the op in a sense that it is almost to easy while running with a crew.

And they keep stealing my kills.

Ok so I just got out of one of the worst games i've ever played. The enemy took out all of our clones, all 80 while they were only left with 65 left and we were trying very hard, we had snipers, heavy machine guns, we had the works. what was the difference? They were a corp. how can I tell? well i'm pretty sure complete strangers don't move in a pact. these guys were to organized to be just random people meeting in a game.

Now I did reconize allot of the people from another run in. It sucks how big squads like that can get into games with people who just want to play and they just own everything and were left with 10 deaths 3 kills... would there be any possible way to... fix that maybe? Not saying get rid of squads just make it so the big organized crops can't get into random games.

just an idea, i'm not complaining, I love challenges but when they own the floor and wipe it with us... there's no challenge just defeat.

I totally agree. Like you, I can't be arsed with joining a corp. I just wanna fire up my PS3 and have a play....all the added complication of joining a corp, talking to people and generally being sociable doesn't attract me.
If I want to talk to people, I'll go down the pub with me mates!

But this games leans heavily on this corp business. As a random, you are at an immediate disadvantage.

I guess CCP have designed it that way...cos lets face it, if you're in a corp, you've got something to prove, which means you'll probably spend money on AUR to attempt to become the best player in your corp.

I do hope when the game is released, us randoms are given a sort of no-corp, no-voip games.

Can I ask what it is about Dust that interests you then? Why Dust rather than any other online FPS?

dudeytron - leaving the game during beta if you don't like its bugs is one thing, but would you be returning to try again when launched? (and yes I have read the posts previously)

I ask as the Eve universe has never been about aliens but about the meta game of intergalactic conquest with a side serving of rogue drones and other non-human interference.

I appreciate the thoughts about the SF/Future setting missing something "alien" but the premise is that the human race expanded into this part of the universe and splintered into 4 key factions. Eve is and always has been more about the inhumanity of humanity at its core, and CCP have never ruled out "others" appearing to stir things up (bring on the Jovians!!).

Regarding Corps - every player is instantly part of a larger corporation (albeit NPC controlled), so that's not the issue I think you have, but an issue with finding yourself playing with players that don't act as a team when in "randoms" matches. Every player is in a squad but not every squad lead leads their squad and this game and the greater Eve universe has always been based around teamwork - yes you can make a living solo, but you are stronger with people around you.

However, "bug hunts" and non-human conflicts are catered for by ME / Halo / GoW / Resistance / (hell even) AvP or Aliens: CM. Don't write off a game that will cost you sweet FA to play on the grounds that its a future themed shooter, get involved with the larger community (maybe try EVE), and hopefully you could find a place in your heart for what is (for some of us at least) a very large family.

I see what you're saying. Maybe I'm being a tad harsh on the game elements regarding alien life....but I'm still convinced CCP could have done something to make the Alien worlds looks a tad more alien. Giant Mushrooms, red rivers, orange sky...I don't know.
But you get my point!? At the minute I feel like I'm playing on a brown field industrial site in Birmingham!!!

In regards to me being a one man army and ignoring the corps - This is how I play and I enjoy it. But I'll tell you what, as you're not the first to say "join a corp, it's better", I'll dig out my headset and mic tonight...and I'll see if joining in the game chat makes things a little more interesting.

I may come back in a years time to see if things have changed - I tend to only doing gaming during Winter, when it's too cold to go to the pub!

"if you boil it down, Dust is just another generic shooter where you happen to be on a different planet."

no actually the game is different.

what it is, when you boil it down, is that casuals can't handle anything outside of cod.

you said it yourself.
you can't be arsed.

514 is the way it is.
and you guys can't hang with it.


albeit:
all this "clan" bs is a joke.
zerging isn't clan. it's just casuals wearing clan tags.
but then again, that was the totality of what most of the community could accomplish in mag = zerg.
now you got "clans" pub stomping in hisec rooms and worse... they actually brag on it.

so on one hand, yeah... you can feel free to go play every other training wheels hand holding game on the market.
they were all made just for you.

on the other hand, i wouldn't sweat it:
these nerds can't handle this game and the devs will eventually water it down so the milk fed veal, i mean casual gamers, can actually play it.
just give em time.

Peace
B

Trolls will be trolls: what the OP is saying is that truly casual players should have the option of being able to stand a chance. Something like a no-premade queue (dare I say like CoD?) with slightly less rewards would work for this.

However, once we get everything like factional warfare vs nullsec corp warfare, we won't need these because corps and casuals will naturally gravitate to different types of warfare.

Well its just usual when very good players getting thrown together into the same team. Its like SI, Imperfects and STB would be stuck on one team while the other team has random guys that nobody remembers. The result is carnage on a very high lvl. And randoms never show teamwork, the best thing they can do is to pull out a militia swarm launcher against a sagaris that stands 5m infront off them. And i barely see people who actually use Type-II, Advanced or proto dropsuits. 80% off the players run either Type-I or militia stuff and expect to do well with that against top nutch players. Sure maybe they have light weapon sharpshooter and proficency maxed out but they are still stuck with a militia assault rifle and a crappy dropsuit.

"2 - A game mode to cater for the casuals, like me."

you won't see a hardcore player. ever. they will be in null and you guys will be hiding in suppression...
i mean hi sec.

but then you'll want the same amount of isk for the win... or the same sp as the null sec people.


because... wait for it:

you can't handle the game the way it is.

Peace
B