DUST Search - TEAMWORK ?

poopchucker9900 wrote:

TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:

poopchucker9900 wrote:

lets talk about something that seems to be lacking in all matches i play, besides the ones im lucky enough to get in with other corps who actually might have the same objective and that objective being to win.

it seems that a lot of the newer guys joining the beta are having trouble figuring out that you can team chat.

maybe if we all used team chat more and worked together in these matches it would help acknowledge the fact that the game is becoming more balanced and with tactical load outs and commands we can achieve our ultimate goal and that is to win.

most squads join a match and stay in squad chat and just rely onthe fact that the other squads are going to help. if we were communicatin in matches with other squads maybe we could work as one whole unit and not a bunch of squads running around trying to capture various objectives.

with the game becoming more balanced its going to take a collective effort to win and thats the way it should be played. i think there is a word for it , might be called TEAMWORK

USE TEAMCHAT MORE !!!!!!!

I hate to say this (MAG). I hope they can organize the chatting system on Dust 514. Squad leaders and a platoon leader speaks to each othe. Platoon leaders speaks to each other. I know the game has a built in type Chat room, but who reads a command while in a battle?

Coming from MAG, the voice chat is what I think it's best at. Since they mentioned that Dust 514 is having a multiple battles in one planet, I believe it's somewhat like Domination mode in MAG. Make the EVE pilot the OIC.

I really like how in MAG with proximity chat, I think it's fun talking to enemies. Also, it works well to people who doesn't have a mic, and they can hear you via TV speaker.

Squad leaders speaks among to squad leaders. Platoon leaders speaks among platoon leaders. A platoon leader speaks among to squad leaders in a platoon. OIC speaks to platoon leaders in a company. The others can only hear them but they can't speak to them.

i agree , we should be able to communicate more freely, i think the chat systems needs an overhaul which ultimatley will help everyone....good point

i came from MAG and i often have said i wish this game had proxy chat. but im not about to compare the two games, if i wanna play mag i will play mag.

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poopchucker9900 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 30	Posted - 2012.11.21 15:45:00 - [1] - Quote lets talk about something that seems to be lacking in all matches i play, besides the ones im lucky enough to get in with other corps who actually might have the same objective and that objective being to win. it seems that a lot of the newer guys joining the beta are having trouble figuring out that you can team chat. maybe if we all used team chat more and worked together in these matches it would help acknowledge the fact that the game is becoming more balanced and with tactical load outs and commands we can achieve our ultimate goal and that is to win. most squads join a match and stay in squad chat and just rely onthe fact that the other squads are going to help. if we were communicatin in matches with other squads maybe we could work as one whole unit and not a bunch of squads running around trying to capture various objectives. with the game becoming more balanced its going to take a collective effort to win and thats the way it should be played. i think there is a word for it , might be called TEAMWORK USE TEAMCHAT MORE !!!!!!!
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2012.11.21 15:48:00 - [2] - Quote For some reason.... this sounds familiar..... oh yea MAG you should know by now if your not playing with the group or your clan your on your own, unless your the guy supporting the individuals.... com'on dude
Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 74	Posted - 2012.11.21 15:49:00 - [3] - Quote i agree with poop..... where ccp screwed up again is giving you the option to go to squad chat or team chat
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.11.21 15:51:00 - [4] - Quote I doubt that pub matches will be much more than Mercenary Team Deathmatch. It's not CCP, it's just the nature of public matches to be free for alls. Pub matches are being balanced for solo play because that's how they are played.
poopchucker9900 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 30	Posted - 2012.11.21 15:53:00 - [5] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: For some reason.... this sounds familiar..... oh yea MAG you should know by now if your not playing with the group or your clan your on your own, unless your the guy supporting the individuals.... com'on dude well if more corps and groups used um teamchat then it would give the individuals a clear line of direction o nwhats going on that way he wont sit in the back of the map and try to snipe with a sniper rifle. were all guilty of it , and i think the only person who consistantly gets on team chat is contraband joe, at least hes rying to cordinate a team effort and for that i will always respect him. and im done comparing this game to mag.....its not flippn mag, you could say that about any FPS and everyone compares this to mag.
poopchucker9900 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 30	Posted - 2012.11.21 15:53:00 - [6] - Quote Skihids wrote: I doubt that pub matches will be much more than Mercenary Team Deathmatch. It's not CCP, it's just the nature of public matches to be free for alls. Pub matches are being balanced for solo play because that's how they are played. then why not have Death match ? everyone for themselves? thats how its meant to be played right?
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.11.21 16:16:00 - [7] - Quote poopchucker9900 wrote: lets talk about something that seems to be lacking in all matches i play, besides the ones im lucky enough to get in with other corps who actually might have the same objective and that objective being to win. it seems that a lot of the newer guys joining the beta are having trouble figuring out that you can team chat. maybe if we all used team chat more and worked together in these matches it would help acknowledge the fact that the game is becoming more balanced and with tactical load outs and commands we can achieve our ultimate goal and that is to win. most squads join a match and stay in squad chat and just rely onthe fact that the other squads are going to help. if we were communicatin in matches with other squads maybe we could work as one whole unit and not a bunch of squads running around trying to capture various objectives. with the game becoming more balanced its going to take a collective effort to win and thats the way it should be played. i think there is a word for it , might be called TEAMWORK USE TEAMCHAT MORE !!!!!!!
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.11.21 16:17:00 - [8] - Quote poopchucker9900 wrote: lets talk about something that seems to be lacking in all matches i play, besides the ones im lucky enough to get in with other corps who actually might have the same objective and that objective being to win. it seems that a lot of the newer guys joining the beta are having trouble figuring out that you can team chat. maybe if we all used team chat more and worked together in these matches it would help acknowledge the fact that the game is becoming more balanced and with tactical load outs and commands we can achieve our ultimate goal and that is to win. most squads join a match and stay in squad chat and just rely onthe fact that the other squads are going to help. if we were communicatin in matches with other squads maybe we could work as one whole unit and not a bunch of squads running around trying to capture various objectives. with the game becoming more balanced its going to take a collective effort to win and thats the way it should be played. i think there is a word for it , might be called TEAMWORK USE TEAMCHAT MORE !!!!!!! I hate to say this (MAG). I hope they can organize the chatting system on Dust 514. Squad leaders and a platoon leader speaks to each othe. Platoon leaders speaks to each other. I know the game has a built in type Chat room, but who reads a command while in a battle? Coming from MAG, the voice chat is what I think it's best at. Since they mentioned that Dust 514 is having a multiple battles in one planet, I believe it's somewhat like Domination mode in MAG. Make the EVE pilot the OIC. I really like how in MAG with proximity chat, I think it's fun talking to enemies. Also, it works well to people who doesn't have a mic, and they can hear you via TV speaker. Squad leaders speaks among to squad leaders. Platoon leaders speaks among platoon leaders. A platoon leader speaks among to squad leaders in a platoon. OIC speaks to platoon leaders in a company. The others can only hear them but they can't speak to them.
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.11.21 16:18:00 - [9] - Quote poopchucker9900 wrote: Enji Elric wrote: For some reason.... this sounds familiar..... oh yea MAG you should know by now if your not playing with the group or your clan your on your own, unless your the guy supporting the individuals.... com'on dude well if more corps and groups used um teamchat then it would give the individuals a clear line of direction o nwhats going on that way he wont sit in the back of the map and try to snipe with a sniper rifle. were all guilty of it , and i think the only person who consistantly gets on team chat is contraband joe, at least hes rying to cordinate a team effort and for that i will always respect him. and im done comparing this game to mag.....its not flippn mag, you could say that about any FPS and everyone compares this to mag. I hate comparing it too, but I do know that it works very well with communication. Also, less stress to the server.
poopchucker9900 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 30	Posted - 2012.11.21 16:22:00 - [10] - Quote TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote: poopchucker9900 wrote: lets talk about something that seems to be lacking in all matches i play, besides the ones im lucky enough to get in with other corps who actually might have the same objective and that objective being to win. it seems that a lot of the newer guys joining the beta are having trouble figuring out that you can team chat. maybe if we all used team chat more and worked together in these matches it would help acknowledge the fact that the game is becoming more balanced and with tactical load outs and commands we can achieve our ultimate goal and that is to win. most squads join a match and stay in squad chat and just rely onthe fact that the other squads are going to help. if we were communicatin in matches with other squads maybe we could work as one whole unit and not a bunch of squads running around trying to capture various objectives. with the game becoming more balanced its going to take a collective effort to win and thats the way it should be played. i think there is a word for it , might be called TEAMWORK USE TEAMCHAT MORE !!!!!!! I hate to say this (MAG). I hope they can organize the chatting system on Dust 514. Squad leaders and a platoon leader speaks to each othe. Platoon leaders speaks to each other. I know the game has a built in type Chat room, but who reads a command while in a battle? Coming from MAG, the voice chat is what I think it's best at. Since they mentioned that Dust 514 is having a multiple battles in one planet, I believe it's somewhat like Domination mode in MAG. Make the EVE pilot the OIC. I really like how in MAG with proximity chat, I think it's fun talking to enemies. Also, it works well to people who doesn't have a mic, and they can hear you via TV speaker. Squad leaders speaks among to squad leaders. Platoon leaders speaks among platoon leaders. A platoon leader speaks among to squad leaders in a platoon. OIC speaks to platoon leaders in a company. The others can only hear them but they can't speak to them. i agree , we should be able to communicate more freely, i think the chat systems needs an overhaul which ultimatley will help everyone....good point i came from MAG and i often have said i wish this game had proxy chat. but im not about to compare the two games, if i wanna play mag i will play mag.

TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.11.21 16:32:00 - [11] - Quote poopchucker9900 wrote: TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote: poopchucker9900 wrote: lets talk about something that seems to be lacking in all matches i play, besides the ones im lucky enough to get in with other corps who actually might have the same objective and that objective being to win. it seems that a lot of the newer guys joining the beta are having trouble figuring out that you can team chat. maybe if we all used team chat more and worked together in these matches it would help acknowledge the fact that the game is becoming more balanced and with tactical load outs and commands we can achieve our ultimate goal and that is to win. most squads join a match and stay in squad chat and just rely onthe fact that the other squads are going to help. if we were communicatin in matches with other squads maybe we could work as one whole unit and not a bunch of squads running around trying to capture various objectives. with the game becoming more balanced its going to take a collective effort to win and thats the way it should be played. i think there is a word for it , might be called TEAMWORK USE TEAMCHAT MORE !!!!!!! I hate to say this (MAG). I hope they can organize the chatting system on Dust 514. Squad leaders and a platoon leader speaks to each othe. Platoon leaders speaks to each other. I know the game has a built in type Chat room, but who reads a command while in a battle? Coming from MAG, the voice chat is what I think it's best at. Since they mentioned that Dust 514 is having a multiple battles in one planet, I believe it's somewhat like Domination mode in MAG. Make the EVE pilot the OIC. I really like how in MAG with proximity chat, I think it's fun talking to enemies. Also, it works well to people who doesn't have a mic, and they can hear you via TV speaker. Squad leaders speaks among to squad leaders. Platoon leaders speaks among platoon leaders. A platoon leader speaks among to squad leaders in a platoon. OIC speaks to platoon leaders in a company. The others can only hear them but they can't speak to them. i agree , we should be able to communicate more freely, i think the chat systems needs an overhaul which ultimatley will help everyone....good point i came from MAG and i often have said i wish this game had proxy chat. but im not about to compare the two games, if i wanna play mag i will play mag. Yeah, the only difference the two is that Dust 514 has a corp battles. MAG has random blue dots vs a Clan.
Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 651	Posted - 2012.11.21 16:47:00 - [12] - Quote Our squads always chat... in squad chat. Why don't we use team chat? Because none of the randoms listen to advice and go off trying to be Rambo in militia gear.
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2012.11.21 17:02:00 - [13] - Quote Ted Nugget wrote: i agree with poop..... where ccp screwed up again is giving you the option to go to squad chat or team chat I can see your point bro but if there were no squad chat and only team chat then how would one be able to determine who is talking to who? Without having to call out your name before each time you speak lol.
Crm234 Wraith Shadow Guards 166	Posted - 2012.11.21 17:15:00 - [14] - Quote As much as I love the email system in dust , I found the message system connected to PSN mail very effective in MAG for informing the player of a message through subjects in the email on screen. There is a lot of times unless i actively go seeking messages I don't get them or in game chat. If CCP could make messages flash on the top right of my screen I feel a MIC wouldn't be so heavily needed for teamwork or this feature would add to teamwork.
843 pano 843 Boot Camp 200	Posted - 2012.11.21 17:21:00 - [15] - Quote I agree. I will talk to our corp war officer and see about making team chat a common occurrence. We too mostly use squad chat or corp chat if not many are on. Intel and organization wins battles.
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2012.11.21 17:39:00 - [16] - Quote poopchucker9900 wrote: Enji Elric wrote: For some reason.... this sounds familiar..... oh yea MAG you should know by now if your not playing with the group or your clan your on your own, unless your the guy supporting the individuals.... com'on dude well if more corps and groups used um teamchat then it would give the individuals a clear line of direction o nwhats going on that way he wont sit in the back of the map and try to snipe with a sniper rifle. were all guilty of it , and i think the only person who consistantly gets on team chat is contraband joe, at least hes rying to cordinate a team effort and for that i will always respect him. and im done comparing this game to mag.....its not flippn mag, you could say that about any FPS and everyone compares this to mag. says the guy with SVER in his corp name.... anyways your right we are all guilty of it. and I know joe does try a lot no matter who he is playing with but man i stopped using team-chat because after a while you get tired of hearing someone breathing heavy into the mic and not responding, or listening to mom and son argue, dogs barking, EXTRA LOUD music
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation 172	Posted - 2012.11.21 18:21:00 - [17] - Quote We'll like plenty others have said. This is just a bunch of randoms working together. It'll be hard to get people to listen to you when they're all trying to go rambo. I believe Low-Sec and Null-Sec will have players relying more on teamwork to get the job done to be honest. Right now you can lose most of your ISK and build it back up to a moderate amount, well a moderate amount for the time...
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1032	Posted - 2012.11.21 19:39:00 - [18] - Quote I hate scrub blueberries to begin with and still seem to have to take/defend objectives if they are there or not. whats the point of team chat if thats the case. If there are other good corps in sqds like syn, stb, etc we let them handle whatever obj they are at. so if you work with your squad and manage part of map or objective we all win and I don't have listen to scrubs
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.11.21 20:04:00 - [19] - Quote The problem is that randoms are always going to play like randoms. A common voice channel would help a little if there was a natural leader who could gather up the troops and those troops were at all inclined, but it is no guarantee. The sheer chaos on a full team channel would likely render it useless, especially if there were arguments over what to do along with the usual music, barking dogs, and side conversations on top of it. Now think 32 or 64 people on one channel. CCP has designed DUST for deep team play with stratagey and tactics being an important element, but the vast majority of matches are composed of randoms who are either not inclined to teamwork, or simply incapable. It's just not going to play the way it was designed. Corp battles is what DUST is meant for and how it plays best. Blueberries and Brownian motion does not equal objective play. There are pockets of organization where a corp squad is, but it doesn't ever get beyond that unless two squads from the same corp manage to get in on the same side. Then they typically roll the other side. I'm not sure how CCP can force organization in public matches. These players haven't been drafted and they don't have to listen to an officer. I'd love to see it happen, but the only mechanism I see for organization and teamwork is called a corporation. CCP supports that (well, except for only letting a squad of four into any public match), but they can't force blueberries to join one. DUST is being balanced on public matches where solo play is the norm. Vehicles are typically OP in public matches due to the lack of a coordinated response, and they are UP in corp matches where coordination is the norm. They are being balanced for public matches which is fine for the normal play of the game, but that's going to hurt the end goal of large corp battles. I don't know the answer to the problem. It could be to just buff the up and ban them from hi-sec matches. You'd have to add a full field simulator for practice to give pilots a chance to gain player skill, but it could be done. Then every player would have to start out as infantry and build a solid ground game before dropping points into vehicles since they couldn't use vehicles to gain ISK or SP.
poopchucker9900 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 30	Posted - 2012.11.22 13:52:00 - [20] - Quote Cyn Bruin wrote: Our squads always chat... in squad chat. Why don't we use team chat? Because none of the randoms listen to advice and go off trying to be Rambo in militia gear. good point

poopchucker9900 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 30	Posted - 2012.11.22 13:53:00 - [21] - Quote Free Beers wrote: I hate scrub blueberries to begin with and still seem to have to take/defend objectives if they are there or not. whats the point of team chat if thats the case. If there are other good corps in sqds like syn, stb, etc we let them handle whatever obj they are at. so if you work with your squad and manage part of map or objective we all win and I don't have listen to scrubs i dont want no scrubs.......
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2012.11.22 16:35:00 - [22] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: We'll like plenty others have said. This is just a bunch of randoms working together. It'll be hard to get people to listen to you when they're all trying to go rambo. I believe Low-Sec and Null-Sec will have players relying more on teamwork to get the job done to be honest. Right now you can lose most of your ISK and build it back up to a moderate amount, well a moderate amount for the time... it will be hard to get them to listen because none of them except for maybe one has the mic turned on and then the guy who does is usually some little btch that whines and moans and cusses you out for "letting him die" team chat: no thanks.. been there done that, not going back.
Real Bones Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2012.11.22 16:44:00 - [23] - Quote You are also forgetting the fact that alot of the newer players may also have voice turned off.... meaning they aren't going to hear you anyway. Sadly even if all of the randoms in a game had voice on trying to coordinate them and get them to work together is a crap shoot.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2012.11.22 16:50:00 - [24] - Quote Real Bones wrote: You are also forgetting the fact that alot of the newer players may also have voice turned off.... meaning they aren't going to hear you anyway. Sadly even if all of the randoms in a game had voice on trying to coordinate them and get them to work together is a crap shoot. most of them have never played a tactical shooter before, and apparently don't understand that there is the option to fallback not just rush blindly forward with no health, they have no concept of basic tactics such as flankings.. when they're this stupid they are beyond help, and will scoff at you if you try to advise them, claiming to be so and so on such and such leaderboard of game X..
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2012.11.22 22:30:00 - [25] - Quote 1) there is nothing real at stake, therefore, no reason for ppl to selflessly try for the team 2) 4 ppl squads are a joke. but we won't get past that until the game is stable enough to support more than 16 vs 16. I wish they would let corps to deploy in reg battles or at least allowed a mode that only corps could join. We would see a lot more tactical play and team play. Corp tournament was awesome in this way. I wish CCP were more interested in testing stuff in the corp battles environment.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.11.22 22:45:00 - [26] - Quote I tried listening to teamchat once. What did I get? A whole lot of background noise. The only time people talk about what's going on in that battle is when they're either raging about someone, or saying how awesome they're being.
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Legacy Rising 109	Posted - 2012.11.23 00:11:00 - [27] - Quote "and im done comparing this game to mag.....its not flippn mag" you guys couldn't figure out how to play mag. you guys can't figure out how to play 514. seems pretty much exactly the same to me. Peace B
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2012.12.03 02:41:00 - [28] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: "and im done comparing this game to mag.....its not flippn mag" you guys couldn't figure out how to play mag. you guys can't figure out how to play 514. seems pretty much exactly the same to me. Peace B Nah, def not same. I like the same social and tactical component in Dust that I liked in MAG that that's exactly why I play both games. But they feel very different. I am sure the majority opinion would be on my side.
Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens 164	Posted - 2012.12.03 03:55:00 - [29] - Quote I run with team chat on and, most of the time I hear nothing. I announce when and where I put down a droplink when breaking out of being redlined, I comm when I spot an orange heading to an undefended objective. I listen for useful information. 99.9% of the time is silence. .009% is the background noise of music, breathing, chip crunching, etc. .001% have I ever heard any meaningful communication over team chat.
Sergeant Wiznowski Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 38	Posted - 2012.12.03 08:43:00 - [30] - Quote No one on mic is the standard for all PS3 games. When you ran into someone willing to chat in your language you usually add him to your "friends" and join in future games - it's like 1 person in 10 games max. Some people will start talking only when someone is talking. That's why default chat off is bad. They do not know that someone is talking and why it is useful to spot that HAV until it crushes them. At the moment I am missing simple commo rose for things like - need ammo



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