not a bad idea, however, you would get the ones that would hop on over to tanks first then switch out into a gun fit and then pop on over to the hardcore mode and start wrecking fools.

Condescending and ignorant overtones aside, predetermined skill paths would be a fairly good idea. Maybe, not referring to casual gamers as "dumb" , so as to not alienate them might be your next task.

Hmmmm... I would really like to flame your post some more but I'm doing my best to remain tactful considering I'm relatively new to the community :P

it is a good idea, but i think you cherry pick what people complain about when you say complexity. Just because someone doesn't like something, doesn't mean they don't understand it.

I'm offended as I consider myself a casual player, but I love the skill system so, by your definition, I'm a hardcore player.

Also, certificates do not denote career paths. For example, say you get all your turret control skills to lvl 5... You would be eligible for a turret control mastery certificate. They're for specific skill groups, not career paths, and they don't allow for automatic allocation of SP. But they do tell you what skills you need at what level to get said certificates.

Oh come on now, it was just a little comedy, after reading a few threads complaining about the complexity of something I find to be quite simple and striat forward.

It was NOT ment in poor taste, and, if you took it that way, I would have to say that you are just being over sensitive.

But flame on if you feel the need.

Regardless of your intentions behind it, you have to look at how it reads. Regardless of the game's complexity, regardless of how easy or intuitive you find it, not everyone may find it so. Does that make them dumb? An individual that plays casually and has never came across a similar UI before, but was intrigued by the idea of Dust would be considered dumb?
It reads incredibly condescending and is unnecessary. This should be a respectful community where we try and welcome all players veteran and casual alike without belittling them.
Otherwise, you're no different than the douchey CoD elitist fan boy. I would consider editing your thread title and OP

You know, I'd rather we'd discuss the skill tree thing then regress into that "that hurt my feelings, you must apologise!" social justice malarkey. There's enough of that stuff in the news.

Whether it offends you or not, the smarts and attention spans of the average gamer have taken a fall over the years and game quality has suffered by catering to it. Dishonored's dev team said that when their levels were entirely open choice, playtesters would wonder aimlessly for hours because there wasn't anything to tell them what to do. It's scary stuff.

"Casual" and "hardcore" were not my terminology, dumb and smart were however. Hay, I just call'em as I see'em (as I said I can post the quotes if you like). Man, I've never seen so much out rage over a word a fifth grader would use.



I would have to agree with you on that one. Nope, not at all the same.

"Casual (dumb) gamer Vs. hardcore (smart) gamer" directly from the title of the thread with implications in the post, but I was joking anyway so it doesn't really matter.

You know, I'd rather we'd discuss the skill tree thing then regress into that "that hurt my feelings, you must apologise!" social justice malarkey. There's enough of that stuff in the news.

Whether it offends you or not, the smarts and attention spans of the average gamer have taken a fall over the years and game quality has suffered by catering to it. Dishonored's dev team said that when their levels were entirely open choice, playtesters would wonder aimlessly for hours because there wasn't anything to tell them what to do. It's scary stuff.

I said it was "a little comedy" I never said anything about "joking" bubba. And there is a big difference.

This Sums up my feelings about the matter quite nicely:



Man by the ridiculousness of the majority of the posters on this thread, you would think that I called some "African American" a black guy or "Anglo American" a white guy. Oh you know what? I do that all the time, oops so sorry... not. I'm tired of this ridiculous PC bullsh!t.-á

Now, is everyone going to continue to contemplate killing the messenger, or are we going to move forward and actually start considering the message, or is everyone here so dumb that they can't think of anything of worth to contribute to this thread. (now, you see, that was comedy, but I was not joking. You people need to grow a funny bone).

Some times, a swift kick in the @$$ is what is necessary, when dealing with people. And that is a life lesson that is learned through personal experience.