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Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.11.17 18:29:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Galthur wrote:I don't agree, your profiting off of others teamplay and when you do that it doesn't benefit logis at all Thats just silly. The Logibro I put the marker on is the one getting the most ekstra points out of this, you do know that he'll get 20% ekstra WP for everything he does? As I wrote; to reward them for their good and selfless work. How you can flip my "give your love to your Logibro" positive thread of appresiation over to me being some sort of whatnot exploiting the teamplay of others is another matter. Get gud at reading and comprehending scrub. I wasn't turning your statement negative, i haven't been able to play this build so i assumed it was the same mechanics as last where everyone but the logi would be benifitted |
Tyrus 4
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.17 18:53:00 -
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awesome, this turned into a MAG kiddie thread.
*grabs popcorn*.
CCP should stop giving Warpoints for anything other than Kills and remove all the structures and objectives from every map.
oh, remove all the different weapon and dropsuit types except the Assault Rifle and the Assault Suit.
make the maps smaller.
get rid of all vehicles too.
then, and only then, will Dust be a good game.
RAWR. |
Torkada Alamstrada
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
184
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Posted - 2012.11.17 19:08:00 -
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Oh, this still? It seems I didn't need to rush back.
I run support Logi every game. I spend most of my time trying to drop spawn points, fill up people's ammo, or resuscitate fallen soldiers. I die repeatedly doing it, and my KDR is abysmal. Laughable, even. I do all this to help my team. If you don't think that's important, that's okay; I'm not going to threaten you. I'll still help you. That's what I do. |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
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Posted - 2012.11.19 03:28:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Necrodermis wrote:KingBabar wrote:Yes and thanks for making this into yet another KDR debate.
As always; KDR will be the most important stat or meassure of a players skill. This is still a FPS, you can't do much when you're dead. That people pushes objectives and go for the win is naturally a prerequisite for this statement to be true. im going to have fun blowing your ships away from planets That may be all well and true, however, its beside the point. When it comes to me having a teammate with me "in the trenches", who do I want? The guy with gun game or just another EVEtard that is at best only usable as a 3 second disstracting canonfodder? And by all means, name another stat or meassure that can be quantyfied that is a better meassure of player skill. How about the amount of wp they have at end of match. way more important than kdr. Seeing as u win when u take objectives id rather have someone who will take the objective than some sniper thinking about kdr. |
Corvus Ravensong
Skyel Industries Subspace Exploration Agency
179
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Posted - 2012.11.19 04:23:00 -
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My KDR is kinda sad, I'm not one of the "leet" guys who gives a damn about it. I am however, normally in the top 5 on war points, right behind the SOB's who park their tanks in the red zones so they can get their nearly risk free kills.
If you see a player with a poor KDR still scoring high on the warpoints, guess what - he's the guy who's busy making sure your side can actually WIN the match.
As for the "KDR is ALL" people, well they made ambush mode just for you - no points to defend, no points to worry about capturing, nothing at all to keep track of other than your team's average KDR.... Oh, wait, that's right, everyone hates that mode because of the spawn in system - because you are all too busy being "leet killer dude" to drop a spawn beacon in an inconspicuous place.
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Free Healing
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2012.11.19 05:46:00 -
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I think this Topic has gotten a little off track. It turned from King Barbar giving a shout out to Logibro's everywhere (thank you) and he was advising that Squad Leaders focus on putting Defend Orders on the Logibro's on their Squad. That's it, it was advice and therefor his opinion.
As for what IS most effective it's really based on the situation. So let me see if i can do an experiment.
Scenario 1: Team stays together -
If the entire team is together for the entire match it doesn't really matter who the Order goes on since the extra points will be awarded to everyone in the vicinity.
Scenario 2: Team Splits in 2 -
The Order would go to the Team with the most likely chance of earning the highest WP. Which raises the argument, which team is the better team? But honestly it depends on the players and is far to variable.
Scenario 3: Team is split-up completely -
The order would go to the Player in the Squad that can earn the most net WP. Determined by what the squad leader knows about his squadmates.
I believe it's entirely possible for a Logibro to earn more net WP than an Assault, but that depends on non constant variables.
Keep the faith. |
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