DUST Search - Squadleaders, get that marker on your Logi Bro!!!

Sleepy Zan wrote:

Tectonious Falcon wrote:

Necrodermis wrote:

ReGnUm UNSTOPPABLE DEI wrote:

I could not disagree more, always put the squad command on the SLAYER. You will not believe how fast those +10 add up Blink

Furthermore, the reward should always go to the front line solders, and and not the cowards hiding behind the scenes

KDR>EVERYTHING

SLAYER>SUPPORT

from what i seen the people with high KDR are the cowards, sitting behind the red line with their tanks and snipers.

while i keep a tank at bay capping points and only managing 4 kills i still am pulling vip of my team and winning.

I agree with you entirely. KDR means nothing in a team game. Just because someone dies heaps defending a key strategical point doesn't mean they suck.... It means they're willing to sacrifice things for the win. When it comes down to it the win is the most important thing and running away so you can protect a KDR is not going to help anyone.

Reg, once games get longer and the maps get bigger, how are you going to slay people with no bullets? It will take you ages to get to the nearest supply depot to refill your ammo. Logi's will become a vital part of them game, it's just that right now they have no real room to shine.

Do you know whats better then sacrificing yourself and letting the enemy cap the objective? How about killing the enemy without dying so you can keep the objective? This an FPS, you would be ignorant to believe KDR has nothing to do with this game.


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Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.11.16 06:25:00 - [1] - Quote Galthur wrote: I don't agree, your profiting off of others teamplay and when you do that it doesn't benefit logis at all When someone has a DEFEND order placed on them they, and those around them, get +20% WP for every action they normally get WP for. This is a Huge benefit for anyone. Not only that but, one of the points KingBarbar is making, is that Logibro's tend to stick to the Squad more than any other Type of Dropsuit with the only exception (maybe) being the new Crusader Dropsuits when they're released. This means that those around the Logibro will get the same +20% increase to WP gain as the Logibro does. On another note if the Logibro gets a lot of points it contributes to the ability to call in Orbital Support from the Warbarge. Which helps your Team win. And that's what DUST 514 is really going to be about. The WIN. The WIN trumps anything. Even KDR. Keep the faith.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.11.16 07:26:00 - [2] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: Necrodermis wrote: ReGnUm UNSTOPPABLE DEI wrote: I could not disagree more, always put the squad command on the SLAYER. You will not believe how fast those +10 add up Furthermore, the reward should always go to the front line solders, and and not the cowards hiding behind the scenes KDR>EVERYTHING SLAYER>SUPPORT from what i seen the people with high KDR are the cowards, sitting behind the red line with their tanks and snipers. while i keep a tank at bay capping points and only managing 4 kills i still am pulling vip of my team and winning. I agree with you entirely. KDR means nothing in a team game. Just because someone dies heaps defending a key strategical point doesn't mean they suck.... It means they're willing to sacrifice things for the win. When it comes down to it the win is the most important thing and running away so you can protect a KDR is not going to help anyone. Reg, once games get longer and the maps get bigger, how are you going to slay people with no bullets? It will take you ages to get to the nearest supply depot to refill your ammo. Logi's will become a vital part of them game, it's just that right now they have no real room to shine. Do you know whats better then sacrificing yourself and letting the enemy cap the objective? How about killing the enemy without dying so you can keep the objective? This an FPS, you would be ignorant to believe KDR has nothing to do with this game. I don't know if that is his point Zan, Personally when I say that KDR doesn't matter is because i believe it's an inaccurate representation of player skill. There are elements in this game where your death can be an inevitable matter. Just because a player has a High KDR doesn't mean he was the most useful player in the game. Conversely, it doesn't mean that a player with a low KDR is the worst player out there. Now i don't believe that KDR is useless. I for one am happy when i see my KDR go up. But i don't judge people based on their KDR. If a Heavy moves up on an Objective and the only one defending it is a Logibro. The Logibro has two options. Fight or Flight. Peronally, I would risk the Objective to sneak around and wait for the enemy to start taking it or waiting for back-up instead of risking myself to death just so i can "maybe" take down that heavy before he turns his HMG in my direction. Keep the faith.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.11.16 07:41:00 - [3] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Free Healing wrote: I don't know if that is his point Zan, Of course that is his point, do you honestly believe when Regnum talks about KDR he means padding it with a vehicle or camping in the red line I'm honestly don't know what to believe when Regnum talks. I only know him through the forums and very few matches recently of which I have seen him in those fancy new Gurista Sagas you guys have. Now Regnum may be a talented "Slayer" as he put it but that doesn't mean that the other players in the game have less to offer on the battlefield than he does. If he honestly believes that he can go 1 vs. 100 against Logibro's without any kind of advantage other than player skill then he must be much better than what I've seen in my recent matches against him. Keep the faith.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.11.19 05:46:00 - [4] - Quote I think this Topic has gotten a little off track. It turned from King Barbar giving a shout out to Logibro's everywhere (thank you) and he was advising that Squad Leaders focus on putting Defend Orders on the Logibro's on their Squad. That's it, it was advice and therefor his opinion. As for what IS most effective it's really based on the situation. So let me see if i can do an experiment. Scenario 1: Team stays together - If the entire team is together for the entire match it doesn't really matter who the Order goes on since the extra points will be awarded to everyone in the vicinity. Scenario 2: Team Splits in 2 - The Order would go to the Team with the most likely chance of earning the highest WP. Which raises the argument, which team is the better team? But honestly it depends on the players and is far to variable. Scenario 3: Team is split-up completely - The order would go to the Player in the Squad that can earn the most net WP. Determined by what the squad leader knows about his squadmates. I believe it's entirely possible for a Logibro to earn more net WP than an Assault, but that depends on non constant variables. Keep the faith.