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WHz DS9899
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.15 00:45:00 -
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Going to buy the merc pack soon, so is this SMG any good? |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.11.15 00:48:00 -
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It's militia, so no? But if you mean is it more useful then other free crap you get - hell yes. That submachine gun has saved me countless times. |
callmeanimal75
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
2
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Posted - 2012.11.15 00:48:00 -
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it's pretty baller. tight spray range, decent power. I haven't messed with the other smgs this build, but I use this one because i never have to resupply it. that alone makes it worth it.
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callmeanimal75
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
2
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Posted - 2012.11.15 00:50:00 -
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I dunno sota, that shotgun you get 50 of is pretty damn sick too. |
BobThe843CakeMan
BurgezzE.T.F
132
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Posted - 2012.11.15 00:54:00 -
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it's standard u silly noodles and it's BA. kills proto suits with no problem. :) |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.11.15 00:55:00 -
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callmeanimal75 wrote:I dunno sota, that shotgun you get 50 of is pretty damn sick too.
only 50 though, and shotgunners don't live long if not specced for it. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2046
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Posted - 2012.11.15 00:55:00 -
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I feel SMGs are underrated, the toxin still tears through heavies |
DTOracle
Universal Allies Inc.
95
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Posted - 2012.11.15 01:00:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:It's militia, so no? But if you mean is it more useful then other free crap you get - hell yes. That submachine gun has saved me countless times.
It is the same as a standard SMG, not militia. Plus you never have to restock. So OP, yes it is good. |
WHz DS9899
Doomheim
136
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Posted - 2012.11.15 01:04:00 -
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DTOracle wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:It's militia, so no? But if you mean is it more useful then other free crap you get - hell yes. That submachine gun has saved me countless times. It is the same as a standard SMG, not militia. Plus you never have to restock. So OP, yes it is good.
Thank you to to you,and everyone who commentated. Can't wait till the merc pack is fixed!  |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.15 01:08:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:I feel SMGs are underrated, the toxin still tears through heavies
They aren't underrated IMO- they have horrible accuracy. It's just that the toxin is unusually accurate. |
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Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.11.15 01:11:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote: they have horrible accuracy. It's just that the toxin is unusually accurate.
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Terram Nenokal
BetaMax.
115
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Posted - 2012.11.15 01:12:00 -
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Great at close range, when going 1 on 1, it's nice being able to finish off your opponent's armor while they're trying to reload. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.15 01:32:00 -
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Toxin is great.
As a few people have mentioned, the stats - fitting included - are identical to the Standard SMG. I don't think it has any skill prerequisites at all though. And also as mentioned, it's a BPO, so unlimited use. No need to buy a replacement every time you die. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.15 01:41:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote: they have horrible accuracy. It's just that the toxin is unusually accurate.
yes- I said that. Care to explain? |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.11.15 01:46:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote: they have horrible accuracy. It's just that the toxin is unusually accurate. yes- I said that. Care to explain?
...im agreeing with you.... |
Lavirac JR
DUST University
Ivy League
129
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Posted - 2012.11.15 01:57:00 -
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It's a decent sidearm that is easy to equip for most fits and is a BPO. Yes, to me it is worth it. Even the Dragonfly Dropsuit is worth it because it allows you to build speed based suits which are helpful in various ways IMO. Now all this ain't close to as good as the Saga, that is why I am buying a code for that off E-Bay, should have it shortly. The Saga is badass, like a minitank...
(Yes, I am the guy who will be buying all the special packs for this game funding it... I love BPOs...) |
Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis
245
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Posted - 2012.11.15 02:22:00 -
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It's a nice gun ...
Always with me ... |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.15 02:37:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote: they have horrible accuracy. It's just that the toxin is unusually accurate. yes- I said that. Care to explain? ...im agreeing with you....
ok, it was just a little confusing, with the blank post. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
391
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Posted - 2012.11.15 03:43:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:I feel SMGs are underrated, the toxin still tears through heavies
does anyone know the exact bonus kinetic damage gets vs armor? i've never been able to get anyone to sit still long enough to find out with their shields down... they end to squirm a bit. |
Nicol Bolas Planeswalker
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.11.15 03:51:00 -
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I like it because its free and it has a lot of bullets. If you plan on using it as standard side arm you'll want to train some skills for it. Try using a few other smg first, and some other side arms to get a feel for what's right for you. If you can dance and keep the crosshairs on your enemy you'll like it. Like it a lot. |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
384
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:21:00 -
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Shotties will always be better though
I love it personally |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
197
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:49:00 -
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Best SMG for the price |
Tyrus 4
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
83
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:58:00 -
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The Best thing about it for me, is that it is a BPO. which means I don't lose it when I die. that is what makes it valuable, imo.
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Boss Dirge
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2012.11.15 05:11:00 -
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Yeah just don't ever try aiming down the sights because all you will get is a light show that obscures the person you are shooting at and everything in a 25 metre radius. Hipfire only makes it a weapon I cannot effectively use. That's not to say many other don't use REALLY effectively. It's all up to play style. |
Liquid Big Boss
Rebelles A Quebec
58
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Posted - 2012.11.15 11:06:00 -
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when I have not enough ISK i take the Dragonfly suit with 2 toxin
this dropsuit is very good for me! with Proefency at lvl 3 for SMG I can realy kick ass! When i'm out of ammo i just switch to the second Toxin  |
Mobius Kaethis
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
306
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Posted - 2012.11.15 13:29:00 -
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I should point out that the Toxin is really only good because of its price (which is great don't get me wrong). Its not something I would get the merc pack entirely for. If that is your goal (getting an SMG) put some skill into SMG operation and get an assault smg instead. It has a higher rate of fire and yes it will cost you a bit of ISK but that extra rate of fire makes all the difference in the world. |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.11.15 14:06:00 -
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Both the Toxin and Dragonfly are basically money printers imo. I swear by them 90% of the time. To me they were more worthwhile than any of the throw away crap you get with it tbh. |
Tyrus 4
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
83
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Posted - 2012.11.15 19:14:00 -
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The best things in the merc pack are the 30 day xp booster(which does not exist in the market), and the Toxin. |
Zahle Undt
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
19
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Posted - 2012.11.15 21:22:00 -
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Terram Nenokal wrote:Great at close range, when going 1 on 1, it's nice being able to finish off your opponent's armor while they're trying to reload.
This is their best use IMO in a 1 on 1 switching to the toxin instead of reloading helps winning |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2012.11.15 23:12:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Both the Toxin and Dragonfly are basically money printers imo. I swear by them 90% of the time. To me they were more worthwhile than any of the throw away crap you get with it tbh.
This.
My Dragonfly twin-Toxin fit costs me 8k. Shield extender of choice, armour rep and free low slot for mod of choice. Down/upgrade meta as you like. Despite no 'scout' skills, other skills transfer over nicely.
Bonus tip, take finger off trigger for accuracy and longer capacity firing. |
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