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Omnipotens Zitro
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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:24:00 -
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Imperfects would be interested in doing a feedback/input session in game instead of the Dev's dust match. In the voice session we can ask questions and give feedback/input. We feel this will be more valuable than playing a much against you guys. It will give you the Dev's valuable information to help make Dust 514 a better game for the whole community.
CCP please reply to acknowledge if this is possible or not. Thank you!
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Posted - 2012.11.13 16:50:00 -
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Playing a match against the Dev's doesn't help advance the game. If we do play them they will most likely nerf what ever we used and buff the opposite. We get nowhere with that based off the last time the players faced the Dev's. It will just be more time wasted. Yes it would be fun to play and stomp the Dev's but I would rather give them useful insight and information on what needs to be done to help this game become balance for everybody.
Everybody knows that there is alot of imbalance in the game. Armor tanks are useless, turrets are to powerful, Logi's don't have a pro dominate role, nobody uses armor plates(except heavies), to small of armor reps for heavies, redline needs to be fix, etc, etc, etc. So much more to type about that needs adjusting.
To accuss us of not being for the players is stupid. We have players that are spec into every single role. |
Omnipotens Zitro
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Posted - 2012.11.13 16:57:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Omnipotens Zitro wrote:Imperfects would be interested in doing a feedback/input session in game instead of the Dev's dust match. In the voice session we can ask questions and give feedback/input. We feel this will be more valuable than playing a much against you guys. It will give you the Dev's valuable information to help make Dust 514 a better game for the whole community.
CCP please reply to acknowledge if this is possible or not. Thank you!
In CCP interest is to give feedback/input session, one per some time, this is a part of the advertising - irrespective of whether we like it or not, we always get this from CCP(at least once per year on FF), with is cool. Match with Dev's is something we don't get that often, still you want to change something valuable for something common. Do all community favour and ask Grideris to make session with CCP, and give SI match with Dev's if you don't want it. I'm sure everyone will be happy with it.
It's not common to be able to talk to all the Dev's at one time in one place. Yes players talk to the Dev's in IRC but it is usually with 1 or 2 of them at a time and they are usually busy.
Having the chance to talk to all of the Dev team at the same time in one place is more valuable than the BO LAV. |
Omnipotens Zitro
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Posted - 2012.11.14 00:01:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Issue here is....from all of the posts, I've never seen two different imps with 2 different opinions. The lot has just liked and agreed on everything the other has said.
Which makes sense because they're in the same corp and will most likely agree with each other since they converse amongst each other. Also, they are an elite team which has a different experience than casuals and randoms. The game is different to them. A rich guy can't tell you what it is like to be poor.
So, although I support this idea & think it is an awesome one...I think the imps should use their win to ask for guys from different corps and a random or two for the Q&A session. That way, they'll get the opinion that truly represents the entire player base.
I asked everybody with in the corp if they would like to do this before I posted. Not everybody wanted to do this but an over welming majority said that they would like to see this happen. CCP nothin and myself had an agreement from before that we will face each other 1v1. I would rather help the community as a whole than just be selfish and have the Dev battle.
Accussing us to be rich and high minding is insulting. Many of us play smart with our isk and resources. Some of us just play in militia gear to earn money. All of us donate money to each other to help our fellow mates. We have felt the pains of soloing during a battle and as a squad.
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Posted - 2012.11.14 01:00:00 -
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I believe there should be a Dust CSM. If another corp won the tourney and suggested this idea. I would fully support it without question. I wouldn't cry on the forums saying that they are doing it for personal gain and don't have the interest of the community. I also wouldn't suggest there be a representative from every corp either as the winning corp rightfully won the tourney. I would congratulate them for coming up with something better than having a pointless Dev battle that would achieve nothing.
Like come on guys! We still in beta! BETA! There is no politics or advantages trying to gain in having a feedback and input session with the Dev's. Like seriously, if any other corp would of won, nobody would object to it. To object this is saying that you don't have the community in mind and are only worried about yourself and your corp. |
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Posted - 2012.11.14 16:29:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Tiel Syysch wrote:Tony Calif wrote:The problem is CCP should see the discussion, not just the final idea. If CCP want to do it then that's cool, Don't take this the wrong way, but I haven't seen a thread about how you get 7000 damage from a HAV. I really havent been checking feedback side of thing much though, so might have missed it. The secret secret side of things isn't right for a beta. The tournament gave people who had found exploits or a broken mechanic, no reason to suggest something was wrong.
I suggest playing a game WITH the Devs. Actually have them play as the assault guys/tanker. Let them Devhack to 5-6mil SP, and skill how you advise. And explain WHY. Treat them as total noobs. Make them better players, with a better understanding of the how & why of FPS. That'd be far better. They do get to see the discussion many times. It's more captured in the why something is a problem and why the proposed solution will fix that problem. Whenever I catch a dev on IRC and bring up an issue with them, it's generally me filling their screen with text explaining everything and not just saying "fix x y and z." I don't post things like that on the forums because I don't want to see them in-game (I haven't built that particular tank and "abused" it myself, by the way, I just know it's possible. I also can't do it even if I wanted to, as it would take a lot more SP than I currently have since I spec'd in other things instead of pushing for that). I send those kinds of amazingly broken things into the devs in private, though. The only other person outside of CCP that I had told the specific build to was Noc, who also can't build that particular fit, but we talk about balance all the time together and run numbers on things to see what kind of lol-worthy things we can theoretically make with the current build. Wait so your saying you knew something was horribly broken but have yet STILL to post on it and make it public?. You do get the idea of beta right?. Your supposed to be showing the community and the devs that something is broken, not hiding it and keeping it to yourself. Sure do that once the game is finished, but if something's broken the world should know about it. Take what happened with the WP farming as an example. Sha and I figured that out and abused the crap out of it for a few days in plain sight, the public saw it complained and we admitted it was broken. We then saw a tonne of people doing it and the devs put a stop to it, (albeit slowly). In your logic we should of just kep doing it and whispered in the devs ear when nobody was about that it was broken. Do you see how wrong that is?, yet we're expected to like the idea of you speaking to the devs about balance and such?. I'm fairly sure I know what your talking about with HAV's as things just didn't add up fighting against your tanks, I'm fairly certain the skills stacking are totally broken and combined with damage mods being broken we end up with around 220% damage or something?. Now I've not tested, run the numbers or proved this, yet you seem to have and haven't posted about it?. We even had a thread discussing it before the match if it's the case and you didn't comment.  Redline the devs and form a community council from all CEO's involved at every stage in the tourney imo. I know it's only a request your making, but the posts you've made in this thread prove you can be biased towards your own gains. It also sounds like your already discussing things 1on 1 with the devs anyway in IRC, so why need this?. I'm starting to think this is a troll thread tbh.
Oh I'm sorry we don't post things on the forums for everybody to see and abuse. I forget we directly talk to the Dev's in IRC. They already know as we keep the Devs updated on broken stuff. I'm sorry we take a more direct approach in doing things. We like thing done properly.
All I'm seeing is SI QQ'ing. Expected from a bunch of sore losers. Tbqh. 
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Omnipotens Zitro
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Posted - 2012.11.14 16:49:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:What the imperfect a are suggesting is an awesome idea, it could greatly speed up the beta process and the devs would learn far more from that sort of thing than being facerolled in a battle, however taking feedback from one Corperation is not such a good idea.
Ohhh nooo's!! There's so much to gain from a beta!! We will solidify our hold on null and FW! Ohhh wait! We are still in CLOSED BETA!!! Also there isn't anything to capture and hold. FACEDESK
Ohhh nooo's!! We are going to make this game infantry only!! That's such an amazing idea to alienate our HAV, Dropship, heavies, logi's, LAV, swarms, grenades and everything else users!!! FACEDESK
Ohhh nooo's!! We are a collective single mind! Nobody has a will and have different varying ideas and solutions for everything! FACEDESK
You see what I'm saying?
We have nothing to gain from this. The community as a whole gains from this. This can easily fix a build of fixes.
We have players in every single role in the game who are the best of the best and know what the hell they are talking about it. We have years of experience playing FPS and other games at a high competitive level and at a casual level.
Who would you want to help give feedback? The players who hardly play the game and does not understand the concept of how thing should work? Or the players who have religiously played a certain role, knows all the ins and outs, and understands what is CCP trying to achieve?
Most of Imperfects have been here before the closed beta was even open. |
Omnipotens Zitro
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Posted - 2012.11.14 17:18:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Omnipotens Zitro wrote:Oh I'm sorry we don't post things on the forums for everybody to see and abuse. I forget we directly talk to the Dev's in IRC. They already know as we keep the Devs updated on broken stuff. I'm sorry we take a more direct approach in doing things. We like thing done properly. All I'm seeing is SI QQ'ing. Expected from a bunch of sore losers. Tbqh. You say this?, really?. So this thread was just a pathetic attempt to troll everyone about how you won?. Bravo. I expected nothing less tbh. If you really gave a **** and this wasn't just some attempt to boost your ego, you'd of read my post for what it's worth, but you failed to even do that lol. Alldin responded in a correct manner, you responded like a tard. All you read is QQ, but that's why you posted this thread anyway isn't it?. Pathetic tbh. I thought trolling was breaking the rules?, where's Regnum we need him to clarify it seems! We're not sore losers at all, your just terrible winners it seems. 
I guess someone has a hard time comprehending what he reads and thinks what he wants to.
Yeah the original post clearly states that I'm boasting my ego. It doesn't state an alternate solution to better help the community as whole. If this was a thread about boosting my ego or the corps. It would of said we will redline the Dev's!
I read your posts, all they say is that we don't want Imperfects to do this because we weren't the ones who came up with this idea. We don't want the Imperfects to help the community. We want the Imperfects to just redline the Devs so nothing gets done. We think the Imperfects will have an agenda and that's why they shouldn't talk to the Devs.
You sir are the one trolling, pretty bad at that yourself. You mad bro?
I have a number for a shrink for you if you want. I'm here to help the community.
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Omnipotens Zitro
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Posted - 2012.11.14 17:22:00 -
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EGOMAN VIV wrote:Omnipotens Zitro wrote:
Ohhh nooo's!! There's so much to gain from a beta!! We will solidify our hold on null and FW! Ohhh wait! We are still in CLOSED BETA!!! Also there isn't anything to capture and hold. FACEDESK
Ohhh nooo's!! We are going to make this game infantry only!! That's such an amazing idea to alienate our HAV, Dropship, heavies, logi's, LAV, swarms, grenades and everything else users!!! FACEDESK
Ohhh nooo's!! We are a collective single mind! Nobody has a will and have different varying ideas and solutions for everything! FACEDESK
You see what I'm saying?
We have nothing to gain from this. The community as a whole gains from this. This can easily fix a build of fixes.
We have players in every single role in the game who are the best of the best and know what the hell they are talking about it. We have years of experience playing FPS and other games at a high competitive level and at a casual level.
Who would you want to help give feedback? The players who hardly play the game and does not understand the concept of how thing should work? Or the players who have religiously played a certain role, knows all the ins and outs, and understands what is CCP trying to achieve?
Most of Imperfects have been here before the closed beta was even open.
lol U MAD Omni? HTFU dude its only a game :/
Dude I'm LMFAO!!!
I guess someone is butthurt and has to post on a Alt. expected from children.
CCP please clean up the thread please. Thank you! |
Omnipotens Zitro
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Posted - 2012.11.19 04:30:00 -
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I would love if a Dev or GM can post to verify that you guys read this and/or discuss about this among yourselfs. Thank you! |
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