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Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2012.11.13 00:05:00 -
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I think this would be the most interesting way to wipe and get interesting feedback....
Wipe part of the community!
Not the noobs they keep their stuff, I'm talking about wiping the best of us, basicly if your on the leaderboard you get wiped.
I think this would show how gear trumps skill or vice versa. See how dedicated new gamers face against skilled up opponents. I know this will never happen but this would be my way. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.11.13 00:09:00 -
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Nope. When Dropships are nerfed, I want to see the misery on their faces. |
WUT ANG
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.11.13 00:20:00 -
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are the dropshiits getting nerfed |
Overlord Zero
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2012.11.13 00:47:00 -
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Wipe ISK, reset AUR, remove all gear, but refund all SP to be redistributed except for points on CEO accounts that are spent on corp management skills. People who don't want a wipe will still get to keep their SP (the most important thing in the game), and people who do want a wipe will get AUR refunded and the ISK overflow from the issues earlier this build will be fixed.
Also, everyone will be able to re-specialize if they wish. Spent points to try out mass drivers and have regretted loosing that SP ever since? Fixed. Specced into tanks but it turns out you suck as a tank pilot? Fixed. Accidentally bought a shield proficiency skill instead of shield management because you were tired and not paying attention to what you were doing closely enough? Fixed.
And if you like exactly what you have, just buy the skill books again and build your character up again. |
Overlord Zero
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2012.11.13 00:49:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:I think this would be the most interesting way to wipe and get interesting feedback.... Wipe part of the community! Not the noobs they keep their stuff, I'm talking about wiping the best of us, basicly if your on the leaderboard you get wiped. I think this would show how gear trumps skill or vice versa. See how dedicated new gamers face against skilled up opponents. I know this will never happen but this would be my way.
I love that idea, but the QQ from people on the boards would flood these forums so heavily that they would be unusable.
Edit: Sorry for the double post, was unintentional. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2012.11.13 00:55:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:Do you want a wipe with the next build?
With the tourney out of the way, the next big thing to look forward to is the new build coming up. Now from what I gather it is planed with no wipe in mind.
So my question to the community is GÇ£ do you want a SP/ISK wipe with the new build?GÇ¥
Please try to list why.
Note: Keep in mind a wipe might mess with CEOs levels with his/her Corp
Absolutely Yes. first a personal reason: would love to respect my char. Second: think about guys who are starting now; are they gonna stay when in the first match they get redlined and can't even see anything but dropships and tanks. And even if they're lucky they'll be part of the winning team, they'll just get bored.
Ceos and corp will have a wipe. Not now, maybe. But when the game comes out. So it's pretty useless to keep them now, isn't it? |
Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
187
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Posted - 2012.11.13 01:03:00 -
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I'm certainly tired of grinding (multiple characters) skills up from zero, but have no idea what changes will be coming or whether there is a benefit/need to be tested from the ground up.
I'll be good either way and more concerned about some crucial fixes being made than resets.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.11.13 01:08:00 -
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Wipes don't help with testing. They make it painful as you grudgingly trudge through electronics, engineering, mechanics, etc skills again and again before you can start playing with the more interesting high end fits. Everyone knows the basic assault fit is AR/extender/rep. Do we really have see another 2+ weeks of just that before we can see things like insane missile turrets and such are the actual problem, with 2+ weeks for forge guns to be common enough for anti-vehicle work again?
The period in time after a wipe represents a sliver of a fraction of the lifetime of the game. Why does it need so much testing compared to the horribly unbalanced end game? If anything, after next wipe give us 10M SP from the get go. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
294
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Posted - 2012.11.13 02:06:00 -
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I personally would like to see a wipe with a 5m sp and 10m isk start out. CCP needs to do some endgame testing i think. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.11.13 02:10:00 -
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It all depends on how many changes (and what kind of changes) we see in the next build. There are times where it's most practical to simply wipe everything and start over. Also, everyone here knows that we have one more wipe left at least before going into Tranquility so many of us are just spending what little AURUM we have on stuff to throw away because we expect reimbursement of the AUR in the wipe.
After the final wipe, then you will see everyone acting frugal with the AUR. |
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.11.13 02:40:00 -
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Let us KEEP our SALVAGE.
Let us TRADE our SALVAGE.
Reset and give EVERYONE 5M sp.
Wipe the ISK and NON salvage items and wipe any purchased items.
Refund Aurum.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:52:00 -
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Wipe everything and give us 10M SP. Then we can test our main specs off the bat and see what has changed. |
Free Healing
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2012.11.13 04:05:00 -
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I am only in favor of a Wipe when they give us MUCH more content during the next build. If all we're going to get is a new weapon or Map i'd rather not go through a new wipe. If they give us a new game mode, intergrated the Player Market, new Dropsuit Types like the Command and Pilot, or even the "Fighter Jets" something along those lines. Then i'm all for it.
As it stands not a whole lot of us have even gotten to the Prototype level. I can't even remember what we were testing this build.
Laser Rifles? Active Scannes? Officer Salvage? imo we'd either need a wipe after every build or only when it's most effective that we start from the ground up. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.11.13 05:01:00 -
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Free Healing wrote:I am only in favor of a Wipe when they give us MUCH more content during the next build. If all we're going to get is a new weapon or Map i'd rather not go through a new wipe. If they give us a new game mode, intergrated the Player Market, new Dropsuit Types like the Command and Pilot, or even the "Fighter Jets" something along those lines. Then i'm all for it.
As it stands not a whole lot of us have even gotten to the Prototype level. I can't even remember what we were testing this build.
Laser Rifles? Active Scannes? Officer Salvage? imo we'd either need a wipe after every build or only when it's most effective that we start from the ground up.
Agreed. If the next build doesn't have much other than major fixes that address the bugs and glitches, then I don't see a point in the wipe. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2012.11.13 05:15:00 -
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There will be some new items added, but main focus is fixing the current gameplay.
Check out Ep #49 (Hanging with Wang) of Podside on iTunes. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.11.13 05:16:00 -
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I don't see how a wipe would serve testing. We've been over the basic grind several times now and there is little more to be learned from it. We would just waste another 3-4 weeks getting to the point of testing the changes, and then have two weeks to thrash them all out.
On the other hand have we ever seen a new build without a wipe? That's certainly worth testing in itself.
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First Prophet
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Zombie Ninja Space Bears
35
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Posted - 2012.11.13 05:24:00 -
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Now that we know the game will be in beta until next year.
Wipe the hell out it.
Started this build late because of technical issues, so I'm stuck behind everyone on sp.
And the first few days in a new wiped build are the best. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.11.13 08:34:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Now that we know the game will be in beta until next year.
Wipe the hell out it.
Started this build late because of technical issues, so I'm stuck behind everyone on sp.
And the first few days in a new wiped build are the best.
What will you do when game goes live? The first week of a game with a release schedule stretching years is the "best" should be alarming, not celebrated. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.11.13 09:00:00 -
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CCP has said that the last wipe was the last one before release unless they mess up the SP or economy in some way. |
Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2012.11.13 10:22:00 -
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Wipe it. All of it. Corps aswell. |
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Heavenly Daughter
CrimeWave Syndicate
71
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Posted - 2012.11.13 10:37:00 -
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It does need a wipe thats for sure, but I've seen requests for 5mil SP and 10Mil SP, how stupid.
Fed up with grinding people, to much work for you all, everyone say Ahhhh.
Wipe everything earned to date, SP , Salvage, Corps as well. In fact all items bought with transferred ISK can go too, Grrrr.
EVERYTHING GOES, And we start from scratch, after all,
These are just trials and I for one will want to try something new. We don't need 10 mil SP or even 5mil SP, you can do as you've done in the past and leave it at 1 million. Which in my opinion is more than enough to get started with.
Denying the HUGH amounts of SP that people have asked for will stop them from simply moving into dominating vehicles off the bat, and EARN IT. !!
I also think its about time that salvage sales and transfers came to be, wether it's to the market or corp as this really needs to be tested in depth. !
Another thing is , what about the AURUM items that I've bought that I know I will not need now like the dropsuit BPO, as next time I do not intend to purchase it.
H.D |
Bhor Derri
Legion of Eden
95
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Posted - 2012.11.13 10:58:00 -
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If we get everything wiped it will surely give new players a chance but do we need it ? After all he might have no interest in testing
I agree with 5m SP wipes as they will both give new and existing players a chance.
We Need to take this seriously if you are one of those shield+missile K/D noobs then GTFO we don't need you and your stupid suggestions at all. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.11.13 11:25:00 -
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A yes and no.
Yes as in it will benefit new players who just started playing.
No as in i worked my A** off to get the current fittings and ISK i have. |
Cat Powers III
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
17
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Posted - 2012.11.13 11:49:00 -
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I wouldn't mind it. I started playing around 5 weeks ago. My main has a total SP somewhere just over 2.5million. I feel like I'm just behind the curve as it seems a lot of players have prototype levels of some form. There seem to be a large group around 4-5million SP that have been around since whenever this "build" started. Maybe I went for too may LVL3 or LVL4 rather than pinpointing in on one or two specific skills.
At the very least let us "respec" if the SP isn't reset. I learned a lot already and really know where I would have put my SP now. It would be nice to keep the salvage because I'm close to being able to use a chunk of mine. All the other assets might need to be wiped if they wanted to REALLY "undo" the EvE ISK transfers. |
Darky Kuzarian
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
143
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Posted - 2012.11.13 12:32:00 -
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a wipe and a good amount of SP to start with |
Chankk Saotome
CrimeWave Syndicate
170
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Posted - 2012.11.13 12:35:00 -
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Personally I wouldn't mind a reset of a kind... not a full wipe.. Say:
Reset ISK and items (store or salvage)
Reset Skills
Refund AUR and Merc Pack Items
Give players their SP unallocated, or a set 5mil SP
Give players 1mil ISK to start
This would let us reallocate Beta / Merc Pack items, reuse AUR for startup, and reallocate skills according to our background knowledge over very short period of time (as we'd still have to earn ISK to get the skill books) and would let us recognize the changes that have taken place in the new build with our former skill sets and game mechanics / tactics. |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
208
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Posted - 2012.11.13 13:26:00 -
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Que sera sera ... Whatever will be, will be !
Not like we're gonna change anyone's mind here, unofficial sources (the IRC) have said no wipe ... chances are that's what will happen.
Though I'd like to get my Skinweave Heavy suit off my unused alt now that I only have 1 of them ... 3 was a much nicer number ;-) |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.11.13 13:33:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I would like a wipe,
gets everyone back on an equal playing field (at least for a while).
Yes give us a total destructive recovery wipe. Clean the disk space, format the hard drive.
I'm bringing in some guys and would be easier if we all were on the same page. I have tons of good salvaged weapons, 5M SP, decent amount of ISK....but it is only fair. Doesn't make sense to wipe some and leave the skills, salvage, etc that will still give them an edge. |
jpmannu
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
13
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Posted - 2012.11.13 13:52:00 -
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How can people hope for a wipe I really dont know how. We do have an SP cap that as far as now let me gain 4.6 million SP, and haven't got an advanced caldari assault dropsuit yet. What I reckon people like me are doing is to build up a character from the bottom, my way of thinking is to get LVL 3 and further caldari with enough skills to be competitive, like damage,sharpshooting, shields, mobility, endurance ect, and just now I'm starting to think to upgrade it. Do you understand that reaching LVL 5 from LVL 2 requires an enormous amount of points (it is an 8X skill) which as an average of 500k points per week due to the damn cap, it will take almost a month just to have that, AND, as a beta tester I would like to TEST advanced and prototype.This is not crying, its just how things should work out. Another wipe would be catastrophic. BYE |
BUGSBUNNY LOONEY
A.C.M.E Corp
7
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Posted - 2012.11.13 14:06:00 -
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yes |
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