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Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:11:00 -
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Kovinis Sparagas wrote:I don't want trophies - I want certificates, like in EVE Online
I like this idea here, if they do not make trophies to go into the sony trophy database this would be awesome to have. |
Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:17:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Kovinis Sparagas wrote:I don't want trophies - I want certificates, like in EVE Online The certificates in eve don't mean jack. What they are is a basic skill planner. It's to help people new to the game avoid getting completely lost in trying to figure out the different skills and how they can work together. You used to have to ask others or figure it out yourself.
not true, some of them are, some of the elite certificates are a good thing to have. If certificates didn't mean jack to people, they wouldn't allow you to publish them public for all to see on your info |
Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:30:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Octavian Vetiver wrote:Kovinis Sparagas wrote:I don't want trophies - I want certificates, like in EVE Online The certificates in eve don't mean jack. What they are is a basic skill planner. It's to help people new to the game avoid getting completely lost in trying to figure out the different skills and how they can work together. You used to have to ask others or figure it out yourself. not true, some of them are, some of the elite certificates are a good thing to have. If certificates didn't mean jack to people, they wouldn't allow you to publish them public for all to see on your info Only someone who is new or not the brightest publishes their certificates to the public.
that's a stupid statement. I could get way more useful information from kill logs |
Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:33:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Bronze trophies for basic certs, silver for standard, gold for elite, and a platinum for earning 10+ gold. That would be a pretty fair way to entice people to at least give the game a chance and get through the learning curve before deciding if they want to keep playing. Actually the Platinum is awarded for getting all other trophies. I believe the Platinum in itself hold no value, like Bronze, Silver and Gold trophies do. That's not the only way to get platinum. And EVERY trophy in a game like dust would literally take years. I think that's a bit to far, which is why I threw out a number like 10 golds.
I only have 1 platinum trophy, earned it from a $2.99 game. was like 3 bronze, 2 silver, 2 gold and a platinum. Unlocked the platinum from getting everything else. So thats one example of how platinum is earned only by getting all other trophies. However take Final Fantasy 13, it has a platinum trophy that is earned by owning every item and weapon in the game. Does not require all the other trophies, but basically in the time it takes to get you could have earned the others. So you are right |
Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:36:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Bronze trophies for basic certs, silver for standard, gold for elite, and a platinum for earning 10+ gold. That would be a pretty fair way to entice people to at least give the game a chance and get through the learning curve before deciding if they want to keep playing. Actually the Platinum is awarded for getting all other trophies. I believe the Platinum in itself hold no value, like Bronze, Silver and Gold trophies do. That's not the only way to get platinum. And EVERY trophy in a game like dust would literally take years. I think that's a bit to far, which is why I threw out a number like 10 golds. Yes it is? What other way is there? So what if it takes years? That's only good, as the Platinum would be a sign that that person has all the trophies.
In my post above I just showed an example that does not require every trophy to get plat. |
Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:39:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Kovinis Sparagas wrote:I don't want trophies - I want certificates, like in EVE Online The certificates in eve don't mean jack. What they are is a basic skill planner. It's to help people new to the game avoid getting completely lost in trying to figure out the different skills and how they can work together. You used to have to ask others or figure it out yourself.
not true, some of them are, some of the elite certificates are a good thing to have. If certificates didn't mean jack to people, they wouldn't allow you to publish them public for all to see on your info[/quote]
Only someone who is new or not the brightest publishes their certificates to the public.[/quote]
that's a stupid statement. I could get way more useful information from kill logs[/quote]
Yes and no. Fitting information on someones losses or what they were killed by isn't an overall shower of their skills or what their certificates are. Since certs are only recommend for a ship. Not a requirement.
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So tell me then, without looking at what I have killed with or been killed by and solely looking at my elite armor and shield certficates what kind of valuable info you have just recieved from me? Other than if you don't have that, you shouldn't face me. And solo doesnt happen often enough for that to even matter these days |
Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:45:00 -
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****, I was wrong. FF13 platinum Ultimate Hero trophy is earned by getting all other trophies.. the all items and weapons was the last gold, doh |
Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2012.11.11 16:56:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:PlayStation Home is an "application" and more precisely a social application. Thus does not require trophies. I'm still correct. Minis though are not "free", much less any game on or for the PlayStation3. Meaning there are only very few games that are "free". You can't get trophies in any free-to-play MMOs that currently exist on PS3 without a subscription. And Minis prove that not all games developed specifically for the PS3 have trophies.
There are very few free to play games on the ps3 to begin with. So theres not enough evidence really to back that claim. |
Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2012.11.11 17:45:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Rorek IronBlood wrote:Garrett, you did not read did you? I stated all titles in which Sony does not require the developer, or publisher to post trophies for games.
- PlayStation One - NOT a native PS3 game
- PlayStation2 - NOT a native PS3 game
- PlayStation Portable - NOT a native PS3 game
- Mini's
- Applications (Ex. PlayStation Home)
For the PlayStation One and PlayStation2 titles they must be original releases. Directly from disc rips that have not been touched or tampered with. Otherwise such as HD bundles, or re-releases (Ex. KILLZONE) are required to have trophies. Even the PlayStation Vita has trophy requirements. Note the bit in bold where I point out why I wasn't mentioning those examples. While Home itself may not technically be a game (even that's arguable though), there are games within PS Home which aren't subject to the requirement for trophies. The native PS3 VERSIONS of PSOne and PS2 games are given trophy requirements, but they also, in most cases, cost more than Minis. Minis are the closest to free games that are regularly available on PSN, and they DON'T come with trophy requirements. As far as I can tell, on my local Playstation Store, the only games available at no cost (not counting PS+ free games because those are only available for the duration of your subscription) are free-to-play MMOs at the moment. Neither of those games give players access to trophies UNLESS YOU'RE A PAYING SUBSCRIBER. Effectively, the free version of the game DOESN'T have trophies. Some games have a free trial version and an unlock for the "full" version of the game. The trial versions either don't have trophies, or the trophies are locked until you purchase the game. Same deal. Free = no trophies. I remember downloading a game that was free in the past, after trophies were introduced, which didn't have them, but I don't know if it was produced before trophies became a requirement or not. I DO know that there's precedent for free-to-play MMOs to NOT give players access to their trophies without a subscription, and I've heard that they did so because SONY WON'T ALLOW FREE GAMES TO HAVE TROPHIES. Same reason you can't earn any trophies in free trials of games.
They could unlock them via purchase of a merc pack |
Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2012.11.11 17:46:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:I like the idea of CEO giving badges/medals to mercs. and I'm betting Dust will have it's own set of trophies, and I bet they'll even let us forum-goes pick what some are later.
There will be decorations/medals available for corp ceo to issue out to it's members |
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