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VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries
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Posted - 2012.11.06 20:52:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:More than that probably. A game in Dust takes 10 - 15 minutes or so, right? So 4 - 6 games an hour, making probably around 100k ISK profit per game in a good result. So let's say a Dust player makes 500k ISK an hour. That isn't anything close to what a you can make in an hour in EVE. The tax would have to be pretty ludicrously high, indeed.
But, yeah, I think a tax is probably the answer. At any rate, simply being able to transfer ISK from EVE to Dust on a 1:1 basis should never be allowed.
This sounds like a person scared of falling behind. there is aurum for a reason, why not spend $20 a month and get your aurum equipment. they presented side grades for a reason so that isk generation can be canceled out. However it may not completely cancel out, but you gain loot, you can do co-op stuff to make your isk, and your supposed to make a corp/join to get better contracts. Playing the game the way its intended is always a plus. New eden has darwin written all over it. |
VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.06 20:58:00 -
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Quote:I think someone needs to interject while several people bring this point up, and mention that we're only really seeing the public matchmaking system's battles, which is the kind of battle you'll be fighting in HighSec. These are MEANT to be the chump-change battles.
Anyone in EVE want to confirm how easy it is to make a profit living in HighSec? Can you comfortably outstrip 500k ISK per hour there? If so, we might need tweaking on our DUST contract profits (and corresponding shifts in the cost of gear). If not, seems like this is probably working as intended.
you can make lots of isk in high sec. but you have to considerably more work for it. and its in the safety of concord protection, ofc its lower income your looking at 20-40m per hour in high sec. but in low your looking at 50-100m if in faction wars, if not then exploration is an option and will bank you from 10m-1b depending on the drop. |
VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.07 07:42:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:VK deathslaer wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:More than that probably. A game in Dust takes 10 - 15 minutes or so, right? So 4 - 6 games an hour, making probably around 100k ISK profit per game in a good result. So let's say a Dust player makes 500k ISK an hour. That isn't anything close to what a you can make in an hour in EVE. The tax would have to be pretty ludicrously high, indeed.
But, yeah, I think a tax is probably the answer. At any rate, simply being able to transfer ISK from EVE to Dust on a 1:1 basis should never be allowed. This sounds like a person scared of falling behind. there is aurum for a reason, why not spend $20 a month and get your aurum equipment. they presented side grades for a reason so that isk generation can be canceled out. However it may not completely cancel out, but you gain loot, you can do co-op stuff to make your isk, and your supposed to make a corp/join to get better contracts. Playing the game the way its intended is always a plus. New eden has darwin written all over it. Cant buy skill books with AURUM....but you can with ISK.F u c k your circular logic ...GIVE ME A HEADSTART CUZ IM A EVE PLAYER......is all Im hearing.
Books are cheap enough to make isk for. otherwise you can use arum to dish out death. And i wanna win if you have a standard at the way you win then someone is just gonna simply out play you in ways you deem pitiful. I incite competitiveness if i get a head start cuz i play the game in a way you don't understand then I'm using game mechanics to the fullest. CCP gives us the tools to use and they have counters to the counters. Ignoring this is just plain moronic why would you not like more isk? Ofc you would choose more isk anyone with a brain would go with that. but then again a killswitch is pretty damn good.
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VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.07 07:54:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Bonchu Blunt Rifle wrote:Generally I would support a fully open economy between EVE/Dust. Having played EVE for several years now I am always amazed at the EVE market's ability to self correct. I don't think that adding Dust 514 to the mix would be as scary as people think. I also think that if Dust ever does reach the kind of end game seen in EVE then isk will be a very much secondary factor. Isk very rarely (if ever) is the determining factor in deciding major conflicts. Still as it stands now it looks to me like there need to be more isk faucets in Dust and Dust mercenaries need a way to be able to monetize their services better if linking the two economies was to work. EVE's ability to self-correct isn't a part of it. The problem is that if they opened it up, Dust would instantly be flooded by many billions of EVE spacebux and all the people so endowed would never have to worry about money again, because Dust's market pricing is fixed. Nobody would be moving money from Dust to EVE. They'd be moving their spare change from EVE to buy fleets of tanks and hundreds of fittings of prototype gear in Dust. There is no upside to this move. There is no incentive for them to allow unrestricted movement of ISK. Maybe, one day, years from now, when Dust has a player-driven economy like EVE's, and Dust earnings are made on par with EVE earnings, maybe then they could join the two and they'd merge without one side being obliterated by the other. But, until then, there is zero reason to do it beyond "well they're both in the same fictional setting and they both use ISK, so...".
Who do you think is gonna make our gear? do they just appear out of thin air? no someone will be making our items, those items get bought by the dust population or resold for a higher price. Its not like the isk from eve is a whole denomination bigger, its the same isk we make. The point of dust is to flood hundreds of billions of isk into it all at once. And believe it or not dust players can profit off of that. Manufacturers are already looking at the blueprints and building stock of materials to put a load of items on the market.
That part of it is not just isk is isk. That's a free market shifting industry to make money. |
VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
149
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Posted - 2012.11.08 01:56:00 -
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I picture it as a 3 way hand shake.
1 eve corps/alliance puts up a contract. the winner gets said contracts and takes billions of isk out of eve and into dust
2 Dust players/corps spend said isk on items made by eve players, and eve players get billions back into eve.
3 All items are blown up and isk is erased. And it gets erased at a phenomenal rate. |
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