DUST Search - EvE ISK Transfers 2.0?

Fivetimes Infinity wrote:

There's this assumption that you'll definitely be able to transfer unlimited amounts of ISK at some point in the future, from EVE into Dust. And note it's always the one direction people are talking about, and that tells you all you need to know. In EVE, you can make hundreds of millions without breaking a sweat. Some ratting, some mining, some PI, whatever. No big deal.

In Dust, how long would it take to make a similar amount? Long time. To make even 100 million in Dust, at ~100 - 150k ISK per game (if you're good and lose very little ISK) would require you to play hundreds of games. It would take a long, long time.

In other words, if they were to open up transferring ISK they'd completely trivialize the ISK-related portion of the game for any EVE players, or anyone with an established EVE-playing friend, or anyone who can otherwise get an EVE connection. Those people will never have to worry about ISK ever again, while the people with no EVE connection will continue to value ISK a lot, and have to be careful about dying, and so on.

So, the question, really, is why they would ever want to allow ISK transfers in the first place. Other than the notion that such a thing might be possible in the New Eden setting, what purpose would it serve other than to do a great deal of harm to Dust as a game? Considering that they've billed Dust as a game about being a mercenary, and everything having value, and every death mattering because you value your equipment, what sense would it make to allow a certain portion of the playerbase to acquire so much ISK that ISK basically becomes unimportant to them?

Unless CCP does a major overhaul of the ISK generation in Dust, and the price of all items, to somehow, magically, make Dust players earn the same as EVE players given the same amount of effort spent and the same time committed, I can't see why they'd ever just open the games to one-another monetarily. It serves no purpose and would do quite a lot of harm to Dust.


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Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.11.07 09:09:00 - [1] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: There's this assumption that you'll definitely be able to transfer unlimited amounts of ISK at some point in the future, from EVE into Dust. And note it's always the one direction people are talking about, and that tells you all you need to know. In EVE, you can make hundreds of millions without breaking a sweat. Some ratting, some mining, some PI, whatever. No big deal. In Dust, how long would it take to make a similar amount? Long time. To make even 100 million in Dust, at ~100 - 150k ISK per game (if you're good and lose very little ISK) would require you to play hundreds of games. It would take a long, long time. In other words, if they were to open up transferring ISK they'd completely trivialize the ISK-related portion of the game for any EVE players, or anyone with an established EVE-playing friend, or anyone who can otherwise get an EVE connection. Those people will never have to worry about ISK ever again, while the people with no EVE connection will continue to value ISK a lot, and have to be careful about dying, and so on. So, the question, really, is why they would ever want to allow ISK transfers in the first place. Other than the notion that such a thing might be possible in the New Eden setting, what purpose would it serve other than to do a great deal of harm to Dust as a game? Considering that they've billed Dust as a game about being a mercenary, and everything having value, and every death mattering because you value your equipment, what sense would it make to allow a certain portion of the playerbase to acquire so much ISK that ISK basically becomes unimportant to them? Unless CCP does a major overhaul of the ISK generation in Dust, and the price of all items, to somehow, magically, make Dust players earn the same as EVE players given the same amount of effort spent and the same time committed, I can't see why they'd ever just open the games to one-another monetarily. It serves no purpose and would do quite a lot of harm to Dust. Got to say, you're pretty eloquent on the subject and put focus on some very important aspects of the game. But, this could be seen differently. Yes ISK is supposed to matter. But at some point, some people, just like in EVE, shouldnt have any trouble regarding ISK. Just like rich dudes IRL dont matter about money anymore. And wont ever matter again. So the possibility of having rich mercs than can just spend as much as they want doesnt disturb me. Where i agree with you on the other hand, it's the lack of work that would be needed to get there with a free flow of ISK being allowed. If a corps gets hundreds of millions for doing jobs for a major EVE corp, and then split it with its members, then it's fine by me. Now, if it's a friend bankrolling another friend saying : meh, take those 5 Bil and have fun spawning top tier HAV all over the place, this i dont like. Sadly, we know this will happen with free transfers. What we would need to know, is how protective of ISK eve players are. Is there that much ISK sleeping around that a vast majority of Dust players with EVE connections could get insta-rich ? Or are those EVE dudes kinda protective and dont intend to give money unless it earns them something back in exchange ? It's a really tricky problem. TBH, i would find it kinda boring if both economies remains separate. Would kill one of the most interest thing of the EVE universe for DUST. But on the other hand, taking the chance to have maybe 10% of Dust player base running around without caring about death or expenses ? Guess we'll have to wait and see.