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Mister Hunt Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 230	Posted - 2012.11.06 13:45:00 - [1] - Quote Well, I was unable to play most of this week ever since the streaming content patch was put in. I can only say this, I like where you are going with it. Having things drop in throughout the match makes it a bit easier for pub squads to rally around something, since it is marked on the map, and defend it against the hordes (ok, it was about 6 on 6) that were attacking us. I also like that the first time I saw this feature I didn't get booted from the server with some internal error, but I may just be lucky I guess. Anyway, good job on this feature, some may not ever really notice it, but it made the random Ambush maps I play that much more fun.

CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 470	Posted - 2012.11.06 14:30:00 - [2] - Quote I now proclaim this thread official "content streaming ambush feedback" thread! Looking forward to your replies.

Jariel Manton SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 210	Posted - 2012.11.06 14:35:00 - [3] - Quote Anything that can change the dynamic of a map is good. People are getting far to set on our current 3 maps and even this will add a little bit to counter how static its starting to feel.
howard sanchez Conspiratus Immortalis 448	Posted - 2012.11.06 14:36:00 - [4] - Quote What is 'this feature'? CCP asked for feedback regarding streaming content in ambush but I have played many ambush matches since and saw nothing new. Obviously I have missed 'this feature'. Anyone know what streaming content is?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.11.06 14:37:00 - [5] - Quote Next up dropping autoturrets unable to be hacked :P
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.11.06 14:39:00 - [6] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: What is 'this feature'? CCP asked for feedback regarding streaming content in ambush but I have played many ambush matches since and saw nothing new. Obviously I have missed 'this feature'. Anyone know what streaming content is? Streaming content is basically flipping on switches or tweaking currently existing mechanics without requiring a major re-code via server telling client the new rules. These can be mostly done without a patch hopefully.
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2012.11.06 14:50:00 - [7] - Quote awesome, this kinda reminds me of the 2 step skirmish maps :D love this can't wait for the 2 step map and this to get tied together!!!! amazing stuff :D
Mister Hunt Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 230	Posted - 2012.11.06 15:11:00 - [8] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: What is 'this feature'? CCP asked for feedback regarding streaming content in ambush but I have played many ambush matches since and saw nothing new. Obviously I have missed 'this feature'. Anyone know what streaming content is? I played in a match this morning with it. Basically, throughout the match installations fall from the sky, similar to the way they are seeded at beginning of Skirmish maps. Only they are randomly placed, and it isn't just at the start of the match. It makes the map basically constantly change, which changes the whole dynamic of how the map is being played. Great addition.
MItt R0mney Doomheim 58	Posted - 2012.11.06 16:22:00 - [9] - Quote Love this feature. Next step: Allow players to control the location and type of installation/structure.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.11.06 16:33:00 - [10] - Quote deploy-able walls and bunkers!

I-Shayz-I ZionTCD Legacy Rising 172	Posted - 2012.11.06 17:28:00 - [11] - Quote I'm really excited to invest into these once they can be bought by players. As a support role, I would make good use of these.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2012.11.06 17:46:00 - [12] - Quote w00t, 4 months later we finally get random objects falling from the sky. 4 more months until we can do it ourselves. One step at a time, or in CCP's case, crawl.
Maffia- Thug 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 62	Posted - 2012.11.06 18:10:00 - [13] - Quote Will this feature be available in all maps and game modes in the future?
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 907	Posted - 2012.11.06 19:06:00 - [14] - Quote Hearing about this has gotten me more excited about playing Dust than I have been for a while. Looks like I'll be playing some ambush tonight. [RESERVED FOR FEEDBACK LATER] Update: 11/7 Okay, so I played for a couple hours last night and only got a couple matches where stuff actually dropped in. IT. WAS. AWESOME. BUT! It needs to be MUCH MUCH more common to have matches where instillations drop in. It actually added some fun back into the game.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.11.06 19:38:00 - [15] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Hearing about this has gotten me more excited about playing Dust than I have been for a while. Looks like I'll be playing some ambush tonight. [RESERVED FOR FEEDBACK LATER] [RESERVED FOR I WARNED YE NOT TO GET SO EXCITED]
Chalker Salhany Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2012.11.06 20:50:00 - [16] - Quote Now that they are not stuck waiting for Sony to approve a new client build everytime development should pick up.
Villore Isu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2012.11.06 21:34:00 - [17] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Hearing about this has gotten me more excited about playing Dust than I have been for a while. Looks like I'll be playing some ambush tonight. [RESERVED FOR FEEDBACK LATER] [RESERVED FOR I WARNED YE NOT TO GET SO EXCITED] To be fair, it does make Ambush matches quite a bit better, providing a defined yet constantly shifting front, rather than the free for all that it normally is.
Ops Fox ZionTCD Legacy Rising 197	Posted - 2012.11.06 22:24:00 - [18] - Quote Chalker Salhany wrote: Now that they are not stuck waiting for Sony to approve a new client build everytime development should pick up. when did sony say they were not going to be reviewing before releasing the content anymore.
SATORI CORUSCANTi Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2012.11.06 23:38:00 - [19] - Quote The installations have made Ambush ridiculously more laggy.. Single digit frames per second after the second wave of installations dropping
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.11.07 00:49:00 - [20] - Quote Villore Isu wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Hearing about this has gotten me more excited about playing Dust than I have been for a while. Looks like I'll be playing some ambush tonight. [RESERVED FOR FEEDBACK LATER] [RESERVED FOR I WARNED YE NOT TO GET SO EXCITED] To be fair, it does make Ambush matches quite a bit better, providing a defined yet constantly shifting front, rather than the free for all that it normally is. Maybe. I wouldn't know. I haven't seen one such match after a few dozen rounds of ambush.

Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1062	Posted - 2012.11.07 00:52:00 - [21] - Quote YESZ! now I can better fill my "turret operator" build I was setting up for a while, without having to use vehicles!
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.11.07 01:16:00 - [22] - Quote SATORI CORUSCANTi wrote: I don't see why you'd ever need that many supply depots in one spot lol. It was fine with just the one supply depot, though. i'll agree, i was on a map where things just kept falling... there only needs to be a few drops a match, not a ton. then some maps have zero drops.... can we get this balanced? lol ty https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390543
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.11.07 02:16:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: I now proclaim this thread official "content streaming ambush feedback" thread! Looking forward to your replies. 1st pure win 2nd. In Factional warfare please have these placed by the MCC. Bein able to spawn turrets anywhere is silly. I want to buy and deploy them via air drop from my warbarge/MCC. Also I hope the number of drops has a cap. So only 2 supply depot max, 8 turrets, so on.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. 15	Posted - 2012.11.07 02:21:00 - [24] - Quote Ambush is much better now. I can now give a target to my team and we can advance to that point instead of walking around with nowhere to go.
angelarch Algintal Core Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2012.11.07 02:58:00 - [25] - Quote Q. is streaming content exclusive to ambush, or is it also in skirmish? I'd love to try it if it's in skirmish too. Otherwise i'll be watching USA election nonsense tonight i guess lol.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.11.07 05:26:00 - [26] - Quote I beleive it only happens in the Ashlands and Line Harvest Maps. I havn't been to Skim Junction or Biomass yet. But me and my Corpmates went through Communication and Manus Peak on Ambush and neither of them had the new content. Keep the faith.
Katius Maximus Red Star. 17	Posted - 2012.11.07 10:39:00 - [27] - Quote since the streaming content feature has been turned on yesterday i have not been able to play the ambush maps where this feature was turned on. i have had frame drops,rubber-banding and the hit detection seems funny too.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.11.07 15:38:00 - [28] - Quote The spawn point system hasnt been fixed in the ambush map. I still get spawned in front 10 red dots and get shot in the face. The spawn mechanics is the thing that needs fixing. Not having multiple installations dropped down on you. There is a very bad lag in spawning. My squad mate spawned on the map and a red dot started firing at him. He was very clearly on the ground but he said his screen said he was still spawning. I had to take a few of his bullets till he spawn so that he could run away. Spawning is broken and still hasnt been fixed.
Ops Fox ZionTCD Legacy Rising 197	Posted - 2012.11.07 15:41:00 - [29] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: The spawn point system hasnt been fixed in the ambush map. I still get spawned in front 10 red dots and get shot in the face. The spawn mechanics is the thing that needs fixing. Not having multiple installations dropped down on you. There is a very bad lag in spawning. My squad mate spawned on the map and a red dot started firing at him. He was very clearly on the ground but he said his screen said he was still spawning. I had to take a few of his bullets till he spawn so that he could run away. Spawning is broken and still hasnt been fixed. yes spawning is the worst part of dust in terms of mechanics but thats not what this is about this about a awesome new feature that CCP needs to test to CCP so they can fix the lag now.
Ops Fox ZionTCD Legacy Rising 197	Posted - 2012.11.07 23:13:00 - [30] - Quote Love the feature adds a new dynamic to ambush that I love however I do have some issues. First off Depots especially when close together act like force multiplers for the dominating team especially when they are close together, I think power/important installation (cru and depots) should have a minimum distance between them so they don't all compact together and so one team cant control 3 or 4 different depots with one blob. And I like to update the list of things you should spawn near 1. Within los of the enemy 2. Within 30m of the enemy 3. Right next to depots, especially your own (this leads back to that force multipler thing, a team should work for victory not have it handed to then)

Brush Master HavoK Core 163	Posted - 2012.11.08 05:43:00 - [31] - Quote I got a major problem with it. An installation just we through my 1.4k shield 3.6k armor dropship in mid flight and killed it instantly. Impact damage on incoming installations needs reduced or eliminated.
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.11.08 07:59:00 - [32] - Quote Brush Master wrote: I got a major problem with it. An installation just we through my 1.4k shield 3.6k armor dropship in mid flight and killed it instantly. Impact damage on incoming installations needs reduced or eliminated. glad something took you out lol anyway, i'd like to update that i feel this new content streaming causes some lag, as do vehicles on the map or being called down. currently i feel some of the maps get too many drops... if you could set this back a notch that would be nice. also, maps that do not have this, do this! lol ty.
DJINN Riot 63	Posted - 2012.11.08 11:29:00 - [33] - Quote After pretty extensive review, i have found a couple things of note. Either the installations are impacted by WP's, or they should be. It doesn't seem to be time, but clone reserves could be a possibility. I aslo think this great helps with all the vehicle spam you typically see on ambush. Being able to swap into a AA fit is a huge boon. As a AV forge gun specialist, this is huge, and as far as all the vehicle QQ I think this is going to nip alot of that in the bud. On Ashland, i love the supply depot added in the mdidle of the match, and wish that every ambush map came with a supply depot, if only one. I have had a installation land near me (or on me), resulting in huge lag, and a WTF moment, as well as my shields being wiped. I agree that the changes result in clumping alot, especially on Ashland, 4 supply depots within a 50 yard rage is a little redundant. The clumping or force multiplying effect does occur, especially between two friendly supply depots. I know myself being much more prone to throw down a drop uplink when there are two comfy supply depots to hug. All in all, i think its a great addition, and look forward to new match modes. EDIT: I have seen one car that ended up on top of a installation that was called down, maybe a 5meter no call down zone around the fallen installations.
Brush Master HavoK Core 163	Posted - 2012.11.08 21:54:00 - [34] - Quote Ima Leet wrote: Brush Master wrote: I got a major problem with it. An installation just we through my 1.4k shield 3.6k armor dropship in mid flight and killed it instantly. Impact damage on incoming installations needs reduced or eliminated. glad something took you out lol anyway, i'd like to update that i feel this new content streaming causes some lag, as do vehicles on the map or being called down. currently i feel some of the maps get too many drops... if you could set this back a notch that would be nice. also, maps that do not have this, do this! lol ty. Hey, I poured every cent i got into that thing, fell privileged to be steam rolled by it I was thinking that a simple alert like the beam of light from an orbital would really help, a 4-5 second alert since it lags anyone around it out.


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