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Radioship Algintal Core Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2012.11.03 13:45:00 - [1] - Quote Hello everyone, i am about to develop DUST fitting tool, similar to EFT (Eve Fitting Tool). But i am not sure if its needed, need your opinions on this. Also, is it better to be WEB Based or APP Like (i.e. similar to EFT). I can use any programming language like Java (EE/SE) / .NET(C#) / PHP or any other supportive like XML, TSQL and stuff, so app/tool could be platform independent. Also i can do a Character planner, everything is similar to current EFT and/or EVEMON. General questions: Is Community need this? If so, il begin my journey :) Thanks in advance.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 967	Posted - 2012.11.03 13:50:00 - [2] - Quote There are probably several in development so build with your personal choice of tools.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.11.03 13:51:00 - [3] - Quote Do it web based so you can change things on the fly when CCP release a new build or just change stats Could be useful for planning your suit or vehicle If anything id do it app for release
Radioship Algintal Core Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2012.11.03 13:53:00 - [4] - Quote As an option i can do similar on iPhone / Droid OS. Thanks for response, i am not looking for profit or something, just a useful tool for myself and everyone.
arimal lavaren L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 186	Posted - 2012.11.03 13:57:00 - [5] - Quote This is a cool idea but probably not possible to do until the nda is lifted. As for the method the way I see it there are pros and cons to each. An app based approach needs no hosting or maintenance once distributed but is more difficult to keep updated and accurate, while a web based fitting tool can be just some php and an sql database easy to update but a real pain should it ever need to migrate host.
Kaze Eyrou ROGUE SPADES 53	Posted - 2012.11.03 14:06:00 - [6] - Quote Radioship wrote: As an option i can do similar on iPhone / Droid OS. Thanks for response, i am not looking for profit or something, just a useful tool for myself and everyone. As someone who uses the EFT, I find a DUST tool highly useful. Going for the iPhone / Droid would be highly advantageous to me as I would love to have an iPhone app for DUST. The heads-up I will give you though is that they are coming out with an official app for the Vita. The biggest thing I see that you can change and modify your fittings and upload them to the game (or at least, that's what I have heard). If you could make one that communicates with DUST to allow us to upload fittings on the go, that would be awesome.
Radioship Algintal Core Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2012.11.03 14:11:00 - [7] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: The heads-up I will give you though is that they are coming out with an official app for the Vita. The biggest thing I see that you can change and modify your fittings and upload them to the game (or at least, that's what I have heard). If you could make one that communicates with DUST to allow us to upload fittings on the go, that would be awesome. Sadly, fitting upload wont be possible because CCP wont open Auth protocol to public. If i remember correctly Vita app is going to be equivalent to Ingame one, so doing fittings from gear you own. The main reason i am using EFT is that you can decide on items to buy, before buying them or discuss on forums about loadlout etc which mobile app could lack.
Kaze Eyrou ROGUE SPADES 53	Posted - 2012.11.03 14:25:00 - [8] - Quote Radioship wrote: Sadly, fitting upload wont be possible because CCP wont open Auth protocol to public. If i remember correctly Vita app is going to be equivalent to Ingame one, so doing fittings from gear you own. The main reason i am using EFT is that you can decide on items to buy, before buying them or discuss on forums about loadlout etc which mobile app could lack. Ah that's too bad. Still I would be interested in a DUST tool which would do what you described above. +1 for you :)
Encharrion L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 104	Posted - 2012.11.03 14:32:00 - [9] - Quote I want one, but the NDA gets in the way. I hope it gets lifted soon just for this.
Darky Kuzarian Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 143	Posted - 2012.11.03 14:50:00 - [10] - Quote Yeah i would like to see some app or even a web page for fitting and stuff. +1 bro

Don Farnsworth HT Space Marines 9	Posted - 2012.11.27 14:09:00 - [11] - Quote Radioship wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: The heads-up I will give you though is that they are coming out with an official app for the Vita. The biggest thing I see that you can change and modify your fittings and upload them to the game (or at least, that's what I have heard). If you could make one that communicates with DUST to allow us to upload fittings on the go, that would be awesome. Sadly, fitting upload wont be possible because CCP wont open Auth protocol to public. If i remember correctly Vita app is going to be equivalent to Ingame one, so doing fittings from gear you own. The main reason i am using EFT is that you can decide on items to buy, before buying them or discuss on forums about loadlout etc which mobile app could lack. CCP has a feature in backhand called CREST (Carbon REST) - it allows read and write access via API, so you can adjust something ingame without beeing online. The Fitting-management in DUST would be the best opportunity to introduce such an API, so you can manage your fittings on PC/mobile/webapp wherever you are! afaik: the plan for first use of CREST was for the standings and/or contacts in EVE. please CCP make it possible!
HERCULEZE Neanderthal Nation 8	Posted - 2012.11.27 14:36:00 - [12] - Quote Radioship wrote: As an option i can do similar on iPhone / Droid OS. Thanks for response, i am not looking for profit or something, just a useful tool for myself and everyone. I think this would be a better idea, considering this is a console FPS so we can't Alt-Tab to check your fitting tool. Also i can mess about with my fittings on the train!!.
Volgair Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 200	Posted - 2012.11.27 18:19:00 - [13] - Quote PYFA or an EFT equivalent tool would be nice. but as the game is, the item data base is far too volatile and incomplete to make this project worth it at the moment... in 6 months maybe.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1592	Posted - 2012.11.27 18:24:00 - [14] - Quote Until the NDA is lifted, you should save your energy. Talk to CCP directly to see what they say about it.
Lavirac JR DUST University Ivy League 129	Posted - 2012.11.27 18:44:00 - [15] - Quote I like pools, polls,and Poles (but I will never marry a Polish woman, they are vicious and can emasculate a man with their will... They are hot though....). But seriously this would be an awesome tool to use(of course you will only able to release it post NDA). I would definitely use it, especially if I could use it on an iPhone. Also as an employer, make this tool anyway and put it on your resume. I would use this as a plus in hiring.
polarzus ZionTCD Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.01.11 12:56:00 - [16] - Quote Are there any news / progresses in this issue? I'd love to have a Dust Fitting Tool equal to the EFT. Does anyone know more about any other ongoing projects maybe?
Eban Nigma Schwarzschild Casimir Collective STR8NGE BREW 2	Posted - 2013.01.22 18:44:00 - [17] - Quote With the NDA lifted, any news on the development and deployment of a fitting tool?
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2013.01.22 19:30:00 - [18] - Quote Radioship wrote: Hello everyone, i am about to develop DUST fitting tool, similar to EFT (Eve Fitting Tool). But i am not sure if its needed, need your opinions on this. Also, is it better to be WEB Based or APP Like (i.e. similar to EFT). I can use any programming language like Java (EE/SE) / .NET(C#) / PHP or any other supportive like XML, TSQL and stuff, so app/tool could be platform independent. Also i can do a Character planner, everything is similar to current EFT and/or EVEMON. General questions: Is Community need this? If so, il begin my journey :) Thanks in advance. Can you wash up though?

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 136	Posted - 2013.01.22 20:14:00 - [19] - Quote CCP SDE coming out anytime? HOPES!! /c

Sytonis Auran Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2013.01.22 21:08:00 - [20] - Quote Eban Nigma wrote: With the NDA lifted, any news on the development and deployment of a fitting tool? Just to echo this, any news?

SickJ French unchained corporation 48	Posted - 2013.01.23 02:19:00 - [21] - Quote Encharrion wrote: I want one, but the NDA gets in the way. I hope it gets lifted soon just for this. NDA is going to be lifted when the open beta starts, doesn't it? Anyway, OP, think of the whole NDA period as your testing phase.
Luke Vetri D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 48	Posted - 2013.01.29 03:26:00 - [22] - Quote NDA Free hope this is still a go!
Squally 160 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 33	Posted - 2013.01.29 05:30:00 - [23] - Quote Mmm, I want, I WANT! Lets get this goin :D and I say "Lets" but tbh, i cant help any, so uh, cracks whip?
Minmatar Slave 74136 Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 291	Posted - 2013.01.29 05:56:00 - [24] - Quote i could go for a skill planner program as well, something i can draft a roadmap to my skill progression in, and save several of these roadmaps for different characters
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 775	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:15:00 - [25] - Quote Darky Kuzarian wrote: Yeah i would like to see some app or even a web page for fitting and stuff. +1 bro ^This
Toyis Winknife Ametat Security Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:20:00 - [26] - Quote I belive ccp is working on something like this for the vita.
3 bird DUST University Ivy League 86	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:40:00 - [27] - Quote not having a vita, and not having any intention of getting one I would still be interested in the fan made app/program. Id give it a crack my self but I don't know the first thing about programming :S
PAUL BERNARD Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 76	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:53:00 - [28] - Quote Radioship wrote: Hello everyone, i am about to develop DUST fitting tool, similar to EFT (Eve Fitting Tool). But i am not sure if its needed, need your opinions on this. Also, is it better to be WEB Based or APP Like (i.e. similar to EFT). I can use any programming language like Java (EE/SE) / .NET(C#) / PHP or any other supportive like XML, TSQL and stuff, so app/tool could be platform independent. Also i can do a Character planner, everything is similar to current EFT and/or EVEMON. General questions: Is Community need this? If so, il begin my journey :) Thanks in advance. YES. PLEASE. THANK YOU SO MUCH
PAUL BERNARD Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 76	Posted - 2013.01.29 06:53:00 - [29] - Quote Toyis Winknife wrote: I belive ccp is working on something like this for the vita. Yeah because CCP makes apps like this.
Toyis Winknife Ametat Security Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:10:00 - [30] - Quote PAUL BERNARD wrote: Toyis Winknife wrote: I belive ccp is working on something like this for the vita. Yeah because CCP makes apps like this. seen it in a dev log. sorry no link but why cant they make something like that.your post is confusing. I own a vita and think it would be neat.

Eban Nigma Schwarzschild Casimir Collective STR8NGE BREW 2	Posted - 2013.02.01 20:50:00 - [31] - Quote Toyis Winknife wrote: PAUL BERNARD wrote: Toyis Winknife wrote: I belive ccp is working on something like this for the vita. Yeah because CCP makes apps like this. seen it in a dev log. sorry no link but why cant they make something like that.your post is confusing. I own a vita and think it would be neat. You can see some detail here as well about the Vita companion app. http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/20/dust-514-vita-app-details-revealed However, I would like to see a 3rd party tool where I can make any fit (requiring any skills that I currently don't have including PG/CPU boosting skills, such as all skills maxed out) and see the effective HP and damage output etc. with the skills I do have and a list of skills I don't have after entering the ones I have manually if need be. And maybe an option to see if it was 100% passive skill point base and then enter your daily or weekly average gain in active skill points (manually enter it) so you can see about how long it would take to get into that fit. Also being able to share those fits easily with other people would be nice. More or less a combination of EveHQ's Skill planner/Fitting tool or combination of EFT and EveMon like tool. It would have to be easy to update by the developer even after Dust 514's release out of Beta, so its easy to stay current. I would pay ISK for that kind of tool.
Geth Massredux ZionTCD Legacy Rising 62	Posted - 2013.02.01 20:55:00 - [32] - Quote Anyways if you do start developing it, Id say make it for app... Especially for ios device... Apple store etc... Im on my ipod 4g all the time...
Drommy Hood Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 242	Posted - 2013.02.24 19:11:00 - [33] - Quote Any news on this yet? Would be awesome to play with fitting ideas without training the skills and spending the money, and even more so not having to be at the ps3
Mithridates VI New Eden Research Foundation 164	Posted - 2013.02.24 20:36:00 - [34] - Quote If this project has been dropped, I am hoping to make something similar. If it hasn't, the data I'm collecting can be used for it. I'll be keeping an updated list in this thread. If anyone else wants to use the data I'm collecting, once I've got it all in there, to make their own fitting tool, they're welcome to.
Mithridates VI New Eden Research Foundation 164	Posted - 2013.02.24 20:38:00 - [35] - Quote Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote: i could go for a skill planner program as well, something i can draft a roadmap to my skill progression in, and save several of these roadmaps for different characters Does this fit your needs or close enough?
Riash Severda 3M Enterprises 0	Posted - 2013.04.08 22:57:00 - [36] - Quote Where does this stand? Has this been dropped? Or what? If it has been dropped anyone else have one I can monitor and wait for?
hydraSlav's Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 120	Posted - 2013.05.20 02:34:00 - [37] - Quote First Google result for Dust Fitting Tool takes you to a locked thread that links here. Second result takes you directly to this thread. For the benefit of those using Google: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67188
Lonnar KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 38	Posted - 2013.05.20 03:11:00 - [38] - Quote I say go for it. It would be handy to carry a planner of sorts in my back pocket in the form of an Andriod App. Plus it'll give me something to distract myself with when I'm not playing DUST. Since I don't play DUST often enough, it would be a welcome relief to have an app that can give me my DUST fix ... even if it's only in the form of a character planner/fitting planner. Fun fact - The more diverse you go, the more interested parties you'll draw in. Suggestion - If it hasn't been said before, there should be an option to save multiple files so as to allow for larger planning schemes. Like if I could save the skill progression for 2 characters and have 5 different fits for each of them to work towards then I'll have every single one of my goals set until I nail them all. Also don't forget vehicle fits.
Cross Ragweed Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.05.20 03:29:00 - [39] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: Anyways if you do start developing it, Id say make it for app... Especially for ios device... Apple store etc... Im on my ipod 4g all the time... Friend at work wrote an android app for WoW ... spent a lot of time and effort on it and it became very popular. About 6 months later he got a cease and desist order for copyright infringement. I assume ccp might well look upon this the same way
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3097	Posted - 2013.05.20 04:00:00 - [40] - Quote Cross Ragweed wrote: Geth Massredux wrote: Anyways if you do start developing it, Id say make it for app... Especially for ios device... Apple store etc... Im on my ipod 4g all the time... Friend at work wrote an android app for WoW ... spent a lot of time and effort on it and it became very popular. About 6 months later he got a cease and desist order for copyright infringement. I assume ccp might well look upon this the same way Yep. Just like all the cease and desist orders that CCP have given to the people who made all the various EVE Fitting Tools using the CCP-developed API system. Pretty sure when CREST is released, they'll be making is just as public and open-source as the current systems people have free access to. There are various fan-made EVE tools for just about every platform it's practical to run such a tool on (and probably a few systems that AREN'T practical). CCP don't stop them, they ENCOURAGE them. And they've previously posted saying "great work" in a few threads where players have created DUST Fitting Tool equivalents using spreadsheets.

Radioship Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415 65	Posted - 2013.05.20 05:50:00 - [41] - Quote Application currently in development for PC and iOS (two different apps), but development is kinda slow, due to addiction to dust. Trying to stop play playing & get coding :)
Orin the Freak Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 649	Posted - 2013.05.20 05:54:00 - [42] - Quote I would much prefer a third-party-program like how EFT is. I prefer having an easy-to-use interface, with a series of drop-down menus and expandable item lists, as well as the skill tree (editable to fit your characters skills) thanks! :) Very much appreciated if you could pull this off!
Radioship Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415 65	Posted - 2013.05.20 05:55:00 - [43] - Quote Curren progress is: - Java 7SE based, Cross-Platform - UI (tried to copy Gripen's EFT, props to him) - Market browsing - Item selection, properties - Character creator, skill browsing Whats left till first release: - Formulas, calculations - Updater feature - Shared "DB" feature Currently ETA is around 2 weeks or so. Project codename is "Warbarge" and a stub site at warbarge.com
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3111	Posted - 2013.05.20 10:22:00 - [44] - Quote For reference, CCP cutting people off from making EFT and DFT programs is about as intelligent as this: http://www.themarysue.com/world-nutella-day/
Radioship Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415 69	Posted - 2013.05.21 08:04:00 - [45] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: For reference, CCP cutting people off from making EFT and DFT programs is about as intelligent as this: http://www.themarysue.com/world-nutella-day/ 90% of data used in Warbarge is user-generated and not based on CCP will to share it. Copyrights are ofcourse on CCP side, but i doubt there will be a problem, since i dont modify any data. System used in Warbarge is more like P2P :)
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 349	Posted - 2013.05.21 09:33:00 - [46] - Quote You're awesome!
Olaf the Gutless DUST University Ivy League 20	Posted - 2013.06.04 12:49:00 - [47] - Quote I have been wanting a app for android so I can play about with the fittings as I use most of my child free time at home sorting out my dropsuits. Would be great to play around with them outside the house. Web based tool would be great to tho. Any update for us?
Byozuma Kegawa The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 119	Posted - 2013.06.04 12:53:00 - [48] - Quote Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but you should hook up with Hydroslav over in the Rookie forums. He has a spreadsheet fitting tool that's pretty up-to-date. Mayhaps you could share info?


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