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meri jin Algintal Core Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2012.11.03 10:59:00 - [1] - Quote I'm really sorry to say this, but at last this is the beta for right? I still think that this game is boring, dull, bland and unexciting. It's hard to point on it. I'm missing the action, the atmosphere still feels viscous, the maps to big or to less player. I know this has bin pointing out before and you can feel free to bury my posting, I just want to remember CCP that the core mechanic don't do well. If there are other players you think the way I do please join this posting.
JACK THE R1PPER Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 84	Posted - 2012.11.03 11:03:00 - [2] - Quote meri jin wrote: I'm really sorry to say this, but at last this is the beta for right? I still think that this game is boring, dull, bland and unexciting. It's hard to point on it. I'm missing the action, the atmosphere still feels viscous, the maps to big or to less player. I know this has bin pointing out before and you can feel free to bury my posting, I just want to remember CCP that the core mechanic don't do well. If there are other players you think the way I do please join this posting. They all left weeks ago.
meri jin Algintal Core Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2012.11.03 14:02:00 - [3] - Quote who left?
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.11.03 14:46:00 - [4] - Quote Dude I hate how slow it is now. It wouldnt have been so bad if they hadnt have given us so much fun a few builds back then took it away and made a camp sniper fest. Lucky for me I enjoy the meta game and no matter how hard they try to ruin the fast paced action I will still play this game I just wont fight so much.
Illuminaughty-696 Omega Risk Control Services 202	Posted - 2012.11.03 15:04:00 - [5] - Quote Game needs tweaking. One build it will feel just about right, then the next something intangible changes and it just feels off. Little things add up, too, like hit detection errors being back, dropships being a little too dominant in the hands of a good pilot, ambush spawning mechanics, lag/frame rate issues, swarm pathing mechanics, sniper red zone madness, and so on. This build it's not one thing as I see it, it's all the little things adding up to the game being less fun than previous builds. Right now the SP cap keeps me coming back because I can't let myself fall behind the curve (great time sink mechanic CCP! You force me to play! Rawr!). Also, the tourney. Gotta support my corp financially and physically.
meri jin Algintal Core Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2012.11.03 15:13:00 - [6] - Quote I'm happy to see that there are others like me :). Some one else think that the maps are to big, or that there are to less ppl out there ? Well and if comes to SP, don't ask me, I'm the one who would like to have passivskillpoints only. But that is not the point of this Topic. :D
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.11.03 16:11:00 - [7] - Quote Well, we have plenty of time now to iron out the issues first before the game can actually be fun. Since now we have until possibly mid 2013, according to Eurogamer after interviewing CCP, things might improve without feeling so rushed this time.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.11.03 16:13:00 - [8] - Quote In regards to the maps being too big, some of us including me feel that the maps are actually too small. Please keep in mind that vtol fighters will be implemented and will require massive space due to their speed.
Ghost-33 ShootBreakStab 108	Posted - 2012.11.03 16:15:00 - [9] - Quote And then there is me, I still feel the game may even be still too fast. I always try to picture what I can and can't do in real life and how difficult certain things may be and relate that to the game. Lightning fast side steping left then right while jumping and still hitting what I'm aiming at? Yeah right lol. But I come from the fps's of ArmA and AA. Where having human limitations in a video game makes the challenge more enjoyable when you come out of a bad situation on top. So the speed of the movement dosn't make me think this game is boring, playing solo makes this game boring. When my Corpmates aren't on I can only last through a few games then have to play something else. When they are on though I could probably play all day and not be bored playing the same 4 maps. lol
Ghost-33 ShootBreakStab 108	Posted - 2012.11.03 16:17:00 - [10] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: In regards to the maps being too big, some of us including me feel that the maps are actually too small. Please keep in mind that vtol fighters will be implemented and will require massive space due to their speed. The maps aren't small, If you zoom out you will see they are quite massive. They just cordon off tiny sections for us to play in. Like kids in a tiny playpen.

D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.11.03 16:17:00 - [11] - Quote meri jin wrote: I'm happy to see that there are others like me :). Some one else think that the maps are to big, or that there are to less ppl out there ? Well and if comes to SP, don't ask me, I'm the one who would like to have passivskillpoints only. But that is not the point of this Topic. :D What server are you playing on? Every game I play is an intense shitstorm of bullets and explosions! just WOW at being boring... WOW!
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.11.03 16:25:00 - [12] - Quote Ghost-33 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: In regards to the maps being too big, some of us including me feel that the maps are actually too small. Please keep in mind that vtol fighters will be implemented and will require massive space due to their speed. The maps aren't small, If you zoom out you will see they are quite massive. They just cordon off tiny sections for us to play in. Like kids in a tiny playpen. That's what I was talking about. The red zone just makes the maps feel small no matter how big they actually are.
meri jin Algintal Core Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2012.11.03 18:12:00 - [13] - Quote is this here our build? It shure looks a little more polish and faster, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYfmeGOGNkI
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.11.03 18:47:00 - [14] - Quote meri jin wrote: is this here our build? It shure looks a little more polish and faster, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYfmeGOGNkI Looks like the footage might be sped up a little bit honestly. The reloading seems too fast, but mainly it looks like the objectives are blinking much faster than normal. Of course, I run a heavy so when I wanna kill someone I usually just fedex my bullets to their face cause that's faster than me trying to run to where they are. So everything seems fast to me.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.11.03 19:18:00 - [15] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: meri jin wrote: is this here our build? It shure looks a little more polish and faster, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYfmeGOGNkI Looks like the footage might be sped up a little bit honestly. The reloading seems too fast, but mainly it looks like the objectives are blinking much faster than normal. Of course, I run a heavy so when I wanna kill someone I usually just fedex my bullets to their face cause that's faster than me trying to run to where they are. So everything seems fast to me. Don't use Fedex. Use UPS.
meri jin Algintal Core Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2012.11.04 12:48:00 - [16] - Quote try then DPS ;).
Yuni Obey Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 23	Posted - 2012.11.04 13:04:00 - [17] - Quote D'Finn Rhedlyne wrote: meri jin wrote: I'm happy to see that there are others like me :). Some one else think that the maps are to big, or that there are to less ppl out there ? Well and if comes to SP, don't ask me, I'm the one who would like to have passivskillpoints only. But that is not the point of this Topic. :D What server are you playing on? Every game I play is an intense shitstorm of bullets and explosions! just WOW at being boring... WOW! I agree with this user. This game is awesome. The meta game of stats and collects is great. The story (which we have yet to dive in is interesting) is even here yet. This a MMOFPS. Its a marathon not a sprint, Give it time.
Yuni Obey Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 23	Posted - 2012.11.04 13:08:00 - [18] - Quote Boring is not what this Beta is about...
Yuni Obey Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 23	Posted - 2012.11.04 13:09:00 - [19] - Quote Yuni Obey wrote: Don't you realize, you EARN everything in DUST?! Even the ability to reload fast or drive well or shoot steady or run fast. MY equipment won't be like urs cause You didn't EARN what I Earned. Simply. LONG LIVE DUST 514
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.11.04 13:24:00 - [20] - Quote Even with all its bugs. the Fanfest build were a LOT more fun to play.

Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:00:00 - [21] - Quote There is a massive problem with Dust514. If I spec as Forgegun master, and the enemy bring no real vehicles, I have a boring game. If I spec assault, and the enemy brings mech missile spam, I have a horrible game, and it's boring to boot. If I spec Logi, and my team don't work with me, I have a boring game. If I spec vehicle, but have useless gunners, I have a boring game. So I spec everything... Which means that currently, having not used a 30 day booster, I'm around 700,000 SP+ behind my corp mates, and have specialised far less. For most players, playing random matches, they are going to need to be jack of all trades characters. Which is not usually what more organised corps are looking for. And it means that someone who specialised in any the roles you play will face stomp you.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation 172	Posted - 2012.11.04 16:53:00 - [22] - Quote >.> You guys complain about slow gameplay? If you're playing like that linked video you're not doing it right. Seriously. I barely find time to sit around. And if I do I plan my next step (if as squad leader) or I set up defenses for my point.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2012.11.04 22:15:00 - [23] - Quote Corp battles don't feel dull at all. Pretty nail biting stuff - you really feel you wins and losses given how much isk is at stake. When game is out i think a lot of battles will be like this.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2012.11.04 22:20:00 - [24] - Quote A good game idea implemented poorly, and boreing as well
meri jin Algintal Core Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2012.11.23 14:09:00 - [25] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: There is a massive problem with Dust514. If I spec as Forgegun master, and the enemy bring no real vehicles, I have a boring game. If I spec assault, and the enemy brings mech missile spam, I have a horrible game, and it's boring to boot. If I spec Logi, and my team don't work with me, I have a boring game. If I spec vehicle, but have useless gunners, I have a boring game. So I spec everything... Which means that currently, having not used a 30 day booster, I'm around 700,000 SP+ behind my corp mates, and have specialised far less. For most players, playing random matches, they are going to need to be jack of all trades characters. Which is not usually what more organised corps are looking for. And it means that someone who specialised in any the roles you play will face stomp you. So what do you propose?
Dusty Mokong ZionTCD Legacy Rising 61	Posted - 2012.11.23 14:20:00 - [26] - Quote The game is slow and the maps are too big if you are from Asia. Too few Asian players are playing which is why it gets boring, try to squad up with US or Euro players and you will see a world of difference. CCP should really just remove Asia servers altogether in closed beta and allow us to join any of the other servers instead. Either that or fix the game matching mechanism already so we can choose which battle / server we will play in.
UPS ap187 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.11.23 14:51:00 - [27] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Altina McAlterson wrote: meri jin wrote: is this here our build? It shure looks a little more polish and faster, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYfmeGOGNkI Looks like the footage might be sped up a little bit honestly. The reloading seems too fast, but mainly it looks like the objectives are blinking much faster than normal. Of course, I run a heavy so when I wanna kill someone I usually just fedex my bullets to their face cause that's faster than me trying to run to where they are. So everything seems fast to me. Don't use Fedex. Use UPS. Yeah use UPS :p CCP should bring a new build quickly...this game goes the wrong way the last weeks...:(
DarkMaximos Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.11.23 14:58:00 - [28] - Quote I do agree that matches needs more players for these big maps, I mean look how huge the map really is in maxed zoomed out lol.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2012.11.23 15:00:00 - [29] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: There is a massive problem with Dust514. If I spec as Forgegun master, and the enemy bring no real vehicles, I have a boring game. If I spec assault, and the enemy brings mech missile spam, I have a horrible game, and it's boring to boot. If I spec Logi, and my team don't work with me, I have a boring game. If I spec vehicle, but have useless gunners, I have a boring game. So I spec everything... Which means that currently, having not used a 30 day booster, I'm around 700,000 SP+ behind my corp mates, and have specialised far less. For most players, playing random matches, they are going to need to be jack of all trades characters. Which is not usually what more organised corps are looking for. And it means that someone who specialised in any the roles you play will face stomp you. ^ Dead on and an important point. I'm in the same boat, a pathological generalist, somehow psychologically incapable of specializing. No worries tho, it'll just take(a lot) longer to get my builds to a good place. Training up an alt or two slows you down even more. But for me it's all good, the self-sufficiency for pub matches, and the flexibility to support my team for corp matches makes the slow levelling worthwhile. But, and it's an important But, we all need to distinguish between pub matches and corp battles. Tony is right on the money here, and when we're all on the forums bitching about CCP's terribad balancing or contributing our brilliant ideas which will make DUST 'what we need it to be', we need to state clearly if we're talking about pub or corp matches, because it changes the argument in a lot of cases. I'm as guilty of failing to make this distinction as anyone, simply because we spend such a large proportion of our DUST beta time in pub matches, and soloing a big proportion of the time doesn't help clarify the thought processes either.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 108	Posted - 2012.11.23 15:44:00 - [30] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: There is a massive problem with Dust514. If I spec as Forgegun master, and the enemy bring no real vehicles, I have a boring game. If I spec assault, and the enemy brings mech missile spam, I have a horrible game, and it's boring to boot. If I spec Logi, and my team don't work with me, I have a boring game. If I spec vehicle, but have useless gunners, I have a boring game. On the flip-side, when it works it works. I had the most fun playing last night. Played four matches and in both my team knew what they were doing. Did my job as a Logi and healed and resupplyed. Felt really good, earned me around 30,000 SP a game. We lost two of the games, but 3 out of 4 were extremely close. The fourth was just a red line fest, which made me feel kind of bad for the enemy, but I had to get my SP somehow and my teammates weren't just going to repair, revive, and regen ammo on their own.



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