DUST Search - I have the stupiest question in the world

Fivetimes Infinity wrote:

Naturi Riclenore wrote:

Believe it or not... it depends on the job / function.

For instance, say you were the leader of a large Guild in a game, and a popular Guild / game. Esp. if it was sucessfull, people see that as a management type role; some exployers to view that as a skill.

Should you put it there, I have seen people do it and it works, others and it doesn't. Really depends.

If you're applying for a job as a guild leader, then sure, past guild leader experience will help. But being a competent, professional, effective leader in an actual, real-life environment is nothing like being a guild leader in a video game. This is another one of those things that, if you find you have room to put it in on your resume, means you need to do more stuff so that you can add worthwhile things to your resume.

DarkShadowFox wrote:

[Well Yeah, :U I know that I was just asking a question, I know the obvious -.- I dont play this game that much :U

So you asked a question you didn't even want an answer to in the first place? Well, I'll tell you what, it isn't your question that's stupid.

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DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.11.01 16:05:00 - [1] - Quote I have a question, since I was picked by CCP have the emails to prove it and everything when I applied for the beta, technically i would be unpaid temp/ volunteer. Can I use this on my resume or is that a stupid idea? Comments?
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.11.01 16:11:00 - [2] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: I have a question, since I was picked by CCP have the emails to prove it and everything when I applied for the beta, technically i would be unpaid temp/ volunteer. Can I use this on my resume or is that a stupid idea? Comments? Not stupid, but not really true. You were given a beta key to help test Dust. All beta players get emails from CCP. Now if you worked at their office, went to work a few days a week then you could add it to a resume.
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.11.01 16:24:00 - [3] - Quote Definetly put it on your resume. One of two things will happen the interviewer may play dust too. Then you just have to give him the secret tap on your arm. You get the job. Two. They will now you are a video game addict and definetly won't hire you. If you need a reference let me know.
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.11.01 16:36:00 - [4] - Quote You haven't learned anything useful for employment in the real world by being a Dust beta player. The people reading your resume don't want a pile of dumb crap on there that they have to wade through. Your resume needs to be concise. If you feel your resume is sparse, then actually go out and start volunteering or whatever. Get a job at a hospital as a volunteer, or at a soup kitchen. Now is the time to start hammering out some quality volunteer entries to put on your resume that show you are committed to something, and are willing to donate your time toward a worthy cause. That's the kind of thing employers (and post-grad programs and basically everyone else) want to see.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.11.01 16:45:00 - [5] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: I have a question, since I was picked by CCP have the emails to prove it and everything when I applied for the beta, technically i would be unpaid temp/ volunteer. Can I use this on my resume or is that a stupid idea? Comments? As a man who has reviewed over 1000 resumes, interview over 200 people and recommended/selected less than 20 I would say this is a terribad and horribad idea if you are trying to get a blue collar american job. The way I would see this is you spending way too much time on gaming rather than focus on your career choices. I work with a lot of gamers. It is something you dont talk about unless you are with your kind of crowd.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.11.01 16:45:00 - [6] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: If you feel your resume is sparse, then actually go out and start volunteering or whatever. Get a job at a hospital as a volunteer, or at a soup kitchen. Now is the time to start hammering out some quality volunteer entries to put on your resume that show you are committed to something, and are willing to donate your time toward a worthy cause. That's the kind of thing employers (and post-grad programs and basically everyone else) want to see. ^ This +1
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.11.01 17:16:00 - [7] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: You haven't learned anything useful for employment in the real world by being a Dust beta player. The people reading your resume don't want a pile of dumb crap on there that they have to wade through. Your resume needs to be concise. If you feel your resume is sparse, then actually go out and start volunteering or whatever. Get a job at a hospital as a volunteer, or at a soup kitchen. Now is the time to start hammering out some quality volunteer entries to put on your resume that show you are committed to something, and are willing to donate your time toward a worthy cause. That's the kind of thing employers (and post-grad programs and basically everyone else) want to see. Well Yeah, :U I know that I was just asking a question, I know the obvious -.- I dont play this game that much :U
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.11.01 17:35:00 - [8] - Quote Or you could play Eve Online, get into a corp, rise up in the ranks, become a corp director, manage the payroll and logistics of over 100+ people, coordinate with fleet commanders, utilize spreadsheets extensively like it's your religion, wake up in the butt crack for the morning to get important things down and stay in touch with your superiors, etc. Then you can put on your resume that you worked as a manager for a corporation that specialized in the manufacturing of military vessels as well as managing security of important assets. Ask some Eve players over there and a few of them will tell you that it worked. LMAO!!!!!
Naturi Riclenore BetaMax. 120	Posted - 2012.11.01 17:35:00 - [9] - Quote Believe it or not... it depends on the job / function. For instance, say you were the leader of a large Guild in a game, and a popular Guild / game. Esp. if it was sucessfull, people see that as a management type role; some exployers to view that as a skill. Should you put it there, I have seen people do it and it works, others and it doesn't. Really depends.
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.11.01 18:05:00 - [10] - Quote Naturi Riclenore wrote: Believe it or not... it depends on the job / function. For instance, say you were the leader of a large Guild in a game, and a popular Guild / game. Esp. if it was sucessfull, people see that as a management type role; some exployers to view that as a skill. Should you put it there, I have seen people do it and it works, others and it doesn't. Really depends. If you're applying for a job as a guild leader, then sure, past guild leader experience will help. But being a competent, professional, effective leader in an actual, real-life environment is nothing like being a guild leader in a video game. This is another one of those things that, if you find you have room to put it in on your resume, means you need to do more stuff so that you can add worthwhile things to your resume. DarkShadowFox wrote: [Well Yeah, :U I know that I was just asking a question, I know the obvious -.- I dont play this game that much :U So you asked a question you didn't even want an answer to in the first place? Well, I'll tell you what, it isn't your question that's stupid.

DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.11.01 18:15:00 - [11] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: Naturi Riclenore wrote: Believe it or not... it depends on the job / function. For instance, say you were the leader of a large Guild in a game, and a popular Guild / game. Esp. if it was sucessfull, people see that as a management type role; some exployers to view that as a skill. Should you put it there, I have seen people do it and it works, others and it doesn't. Really depends. If you're applying for a job as a guild leader, then sure, past guild leader experience will help. But being a competent, professional, effective leader in an actual, real-life environment is nothing like being a guild leader in a video game. This is another one of those things that, if you find you have room to put it in on your resume, means you need to do more stuff so that you can add worthwhile things to your resume. DarkShadowFox wrote: [Well Yeah, :U I know that I was just asking a question, I know the obvious -.- I dont play this game that much :U So you asked a question you didn't even want an answer to in the first place? Well, I'll tell you what, it isn't your question that's stupid. wow were mature, name calling? Omg.. wow...
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.11.01 18:22:00 - [12] - Quote That wasn't name calling, it was deduction. Does a person looking for a job outside of professional game testing normally put their gaming stats/ accomplishments on a resume? Unless the OP is looking for a direct gaming related job, is the question any less than what the poster claimed it to be? One of two things is happening.. 1) it's a troll, or 2) somebody is just stupid enough to think this is a valid question.
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.11.01 18:38:00 - [13] - Quote I owned a small business for several years and while I didn't interview hundreds or thousands or resumes I can give you the small company position on this. No, it's a horrible idea. I would never in a million years hire you. I would assume you're either just wasting my time or you lack enough real job experience that you had to fluff up your resume. I never had more than 5 employees but I still hated hiring people. Everyone's out of work so I would have so many people applying for a single opening. After reading through seemingly endless applications/resumes I can't even describe how much seeing that on a resume would **** me off. Seriously, couldn't even describe it if I wanted to. English lacks the words to express it, I'd need like German or something for it.
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.11.01 18:40:00 - [14] - Quote Cortez The Killer wrote: That wasn't name calling, it was deduction. Does a person looking for a job outside of professional game testing normally put their gaming stats/ accomplishments on a resume? Unless the OP is looking for a direct gaming related job, is the question any less than what the poster claimed it to be? One of two things is happening.. 1) it's a troll, or 2) somebody is just stupid enough to think this is a valid question. It was a valid question, I had a question I needed an answer , I got some answers is that so wrong?
Lavirac JR DUST University Ivy League 129	Posted - 2012.11.01 18:55:00 - [15] - Quote As you signed an NDA and I believe can not disclose you are playing Dust 514, bad idea.
Super Cargo Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 428	Posted - 2012.11.01 20:17:00 - [16] - Quote Something to put on your resume that you might not think of: CEO or officer of a DUST or EVE corp. You have practical experience managing a diverse group of people over the internet to achieve an end goal. Conflict resolution, HR, financial management, strategy, tactics, focusing on the bigger picture, team cohesiveness. Video games aren't a complete joke after all.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.11.01 20:28:00 - [17] - Quote Eve online corps, at least the most powerful ones, tend to operate very much like real world corporations since much of the game mimics real world economics and management. Ask some high profile directors in Eve and you will see what I mean.
Thurak Mirunas BetaMax. 9	Posted - 2012.11.01 20:46:00 - [18] - Quote Would be a good idea if your applying to be a video games tester, it depends on the job, i put on mine that im a gamer and often run servers for people and that helped me with getting an IT tech support interview
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.11.01 20:57:00 - [19] - Quote Lavirac JR wrote: As you signed an NDA and I believe can not disclose you are playing Dust 514, bad idea. I can afterwards though XP
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.11.02 00:59:00 - [20] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: It was a valid question, I had a question I needed an answer , I got some answers is that so wrong? You got answers and then blustered about the fact that you did, claiming you already knew the answer and didn't need anyone to tell you it. Hey, if that's the case then maybe don't make the thread and specifically ask people for their comments? Super Cargo wrote: Something to put on your resume that you might not think of: CEO or officer of a DUST or EVE corp. You have practical experience managing a diverse group of people over the internet to achieve an end goal. Conflict resolution, HR, financial management, strategy, tactics, focusing on the bigger picture, team cohesiveness. Video games aren't a complete joke after all. They're mostly a complete joke. Unless you're a CEO of an EVE corp and you're looking to get a job at CCP, nobody cares.

Mister Hunt Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 230	Posted - 2012.11.02 01:04:00 - [21] - Quote Lavirac JR wrote: As you signed an NDA and I believe can not disclose you are playing Dust 514, bad idea. You can say that you were in the Beta, but you cannot divulge information about the Beta.
Super Cargo Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 428	Posted - 2012.11.02 02:47:00 - [22] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: Super Cargo wrote: Something to put on your resume that you might not think of: CEO or officer of a DUST or EVE corp. You have practical experience managing a diverse group of people over the internet to achieve an end goal. Conflict resolution, HR, financial management, strategy, tactics, focusing on the bigger picture, team cohesiveness. Video games aren't a complete joke after all. They're mostly a complete joke. Unless you're a CEO of an EVE corp and you're looking to get a job at CCP, nobody cares. lol, and you're speaking from experience? I didn't think so. I, on the other hand, am. It isn't something that would be the gem of your resume, but it is a nice addition.
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous SyNergy Gaming 242	Posted - 2012.11.02 04:24:00 - [23] - Quote Lavirac JR wrote: As you signed an NDA and I believe can not disclose you are playing Dust 514, bad idea. Yeah, thats the worst of his worries. When it goes open beta, hey go ahead
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous SyNergy Gaming 242	Posted - 2012.11.02 04:26:00 - [24] - Quote Super Cargo wrote: Fivetimes Infinity wrote: Super Cargo wrote: Something to put on your resume that you might not think of: CEO or officer of a DUST or EVE corp. You have practical experience managing a diverse group of people over the internet to achieve an end goal. Conflict resolution, HR, financial management, strategy, tactics, focusing on the bigger picture, team cohesiveness. Video games aren't a complete joke after all. They're mostly a complete joke. Unless you're a CEO of an EVE corp and you're looking to get a job at CCP, nobody cares. lol, and you're speaking from experience? I didn't think so. I, on the other hand, am. It isn't something that would be the gem of your resume, but it is a nice addition. Not something you put on a resume because people are going to laugh and you will never see the interview room. Depending on who your dealing with and what vibes your getting and what job it is... it -could- be a credential but you mention it off hand and talk about how you do it on your spare time. And you better manage damn impressive numbers, and avoid term 'video game' at all costs. The art of argument makes anything possible
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.11.02 16:15:00 - [25] - Quote Super Cargo wrote: lol, and you're speaking from experience? I didn't think so. I, on the other hand, am. It isn't something that would be the gem of your resume, but it is a nice addition. The person who wrote what I'm quoting is full of ** and should not be listened to regarding job applications. Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote:** Depending on who your dealing with and what vibes your getting and what job it is... it -could- be a credential but you mention it off hand and talk about how you do it on your spare time. And you better manage damn impressive numbers, and avoid term 'video game' at all costs. This is much more sensible advice.
Dakken Kuiper Immobile Infantry 1	Posted - 2012.11.02 19:57:00 - [26] - Quote Dear OP, Spotlight Dust on your resume. Be sure to point out to potential employers what you've learned through online gaming. Bump this thread with constant updates on your experiences in the real world (we've forgotten what it's like). Regards, Dust Cesspool
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 393	Posted - 2012.11.02 20:32:00 - [27] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote: Depending on who your dealing with and what vibes your getting and what job it is... it -could- be a credential but you mention it off hand and talk about how you do it on your spare time. And you better manage damn impressive numbers, and avoid term 'video game' at all costs. This is much more sensible advice. agreed, much more sensible. (Off topic but sort of related and probably going to be a TL:DR) When I interviewed for my current job, I conducted it normally and one of the questions I received was what was the most recent book I read. After trying to think of a good answer to a non-fiction book, I did't want to pause too long to think, so I answered honestly (taking a little risk) that I was reading the books that inspired the popular TV show Game of Thrones. One of the interviews on the panel said, "O, I like that show a lot, how are the books?" I said I enjoy the books very much and the interview continued. At the end of the interview I chatted with that person again about some stuff and Sci-Fi came up. I am a big Sci-Fi fan and I easily rattled off some impressive Sci-Fi knowledge and I got the impression he was impressed with my level of knowledge and detail. Anyways, I got the job obviously and the moral of the story is, Dust/Sci-Fi are not something for a resume but if the circumstance calls for it, can potentially be OK in a professional setting.


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