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Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:12:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:The ONLY thing I'd do to pistols, is SLIGHTLY increase the damage drop at medium-far range. If anything.
+1, it shouldn't be comparable to ranged weapons until you spec into the sharp shooter skill. |
GIZMO2606
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
293
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:42:00 -
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FisherTheWisher is normally good at any FPS he plays. Common fact. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:10:00 -
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Fargen Icehole wrote:Not sure if they should be touched....
BUT, they ARE a little OP. I see the Crimson's point.
Just think about it. In many other FPS, a typical pistol can 3-4shot you, and has under 10 rounds. The typical AR or LMG in said FPS can usually 4-6 shot you. Pistol is only slightly stronger, and has much less ammo capacity in the mag/drum/etc. This makes it a good BACKUP weapon. (what you would expect a sidearm to be)
In this game, the pistol has similar ammo capacity as other FPS, BUT, it does double and almost TRIPLE the damage that ARs and LMGs do. (depending on pistol) This takes it out of the realm of being a back up weapon, and makes it a viable main weapon.
I'm gonna have to agree to disagree.
As I pointed out earlier, as well we several others here in this thread, the pistol not only requires more SP to be deadly in any way it also requires actual player skill that comes with experience to make the most of it. It's like my Nova Knife only it has range. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:10:00 -
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Also consider that the scrambler appears to be a solid projectile weapon. Much like a .357 magnum, .45 hot load, or a .50 hand cannon, it has very short range and heavy damage. The current 5.56, or .227 can't match these real life heavy handguns on sheer flesh destruction capabilities though they do out range them by leaps and bounds. Seems CCP is going for the more realistic approach in this case and I don't see that a a necessarily bad thing. |
Hollow M Ling
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:53:00 -
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GIZMO2606 wrote:FisherTheWisher is normally good at any FPS he plays. Common fact.
He will kill almost everything.....with a stick. |
Pranekt Tyrvoth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
177
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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:12:00 -
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Lord Tyrvoth acknowledges Mr. Fisher as good competition, and believes that the Scrambler pistol is NOT OP. It's just nice to see someone use it proficiently for a change. |
Obama DAT
Doomheim
389
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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:33:00 -
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Having played against Fisher in MAG. I can tell you that no matter what weapon he or she uses it will be OP in his or her hands. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:38:00 -
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Pistols in 1v1 close range, I would say they have the advantage if they're in good hands. However, the small clip puts you at a bigger disadvantage against multiple enemies. |
Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:04:00 -
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lolz theres noting wrong with pistols just stop crying that ppl with INFINITLY better skills then you can AIM, i know this is a hard concept to understand but it exist.
pistols are fine the way they are they are a very overlooked weapon and perfectly balance the gunplay on the map. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:38:00 -
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Hmmm... now I think I've heard every weapon be called OP, except for nova knives.
Scrambler pistols are only that good in great situations- like when everything is fighting in close quarters, and favoring shields over armor.
Also, scrambler pistols are one of the few "skill" weapons left. |
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Christ0pher Blair
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.02 03:20:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:I saw FisherTheWisher drop 40 kills with a scrambler pistol.
... wtf lol
Scrambler Pistol is underused and overpowered. Take a look at it ccp.
These are not the droids you're looking for. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.11.02 03:25:00 -
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to me the pistol and all side arms have decreased damage as the range increases.
you are still hitting them but it does practically no damage.
really obnoxious when you are shooting someone from behind and you are just out of optimal range and you blow on their back with bullets and they turn around with their AR and just rip you apart in a tenth of a second. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.11.02 04:04:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Hmmm... now I think I've heard every weapon be called OP, except for nova knives.
Give it time. Once enough people have read my diaries I'm pretty sure there will be at least one ninja knifer who does 20-0 with just the knife. Then the forum whiners can cry QQ and say "IT"S OP!!!!!!" |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.11.02 04:07:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:
Give it time. Once enough people have read my diaries I'm pretty sure there will be at least one ninja knifer who does 20-0 with just the knife. Then the forum whiners can cry QQ and say "IT"S OP!!!!!!"
if profile skills actually worked i can see that happening. right now profile is far from an actual useful skill. all someone has to do is hop in a vehicle and look around and they will see you.
or if a sniper looks around at the specks on the map they will be spotted for everyone to kill. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.11.02 04:39:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:
Give it time. Once enough people have read my diaries I'm pretty sure there will be at least one ninja knifer who does 20-0 with just the knife. Then the forum whiners can cry QQ and say "IT"S OP!!!!!!"
if profile skills actually worked i can see that happening. right now profile is far from an actual useful skill. all someone has to do is hop in a vehicle and look around and they will see you. or if a sniper looks around at the specks on the map they will be spotted for everyone to kill.
That's why I posted a comment on my diary asking CCP to look into the shadow rendering issue. Even though I could have posted it on the feedback thread, my diaries were actually grabbing CCP's attention so it made sense to post it there. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.11.02 07:34:00 -
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People took this thread seriously.
Any weapon is OP in the right players hands. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
164
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Posted - 2012.11.02 22:54:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:People took this thread seriously. Any weapon is OP in the right players hands.
In that case, all weapons are UP in my hands. LOL |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2012.11.02 23:03:00 -
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they changed it last build R2 just swaps weapons now |
Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
161
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Posted - 2012.11.02 23:46:00 -
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Longshot Ravenwood wrote:There are 3 god-damn sidearm weapons in this game. Ninjas use Nova Knives. Casuals use sub machine guns. Gentlemen use scrambler pistols. It's not our fault GM Unicorn isn't your dad. Don't you dare take it out on my scrambler pistols.
Awesome this makes me a ninja gentleman I kinda like that. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.03 01:16:00 -
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It all depends on skill (both skills you buy with SP and true player skill)
Today I got quite a bit of kills with a militia scrambler pistol- but I had to have scrambler pistol operation III, sidearm sharpshooter IV, plus I really took my time to aim instead of trying to spray and pray like most people. Actually 2-shotted someone- gotta love the headshot damage. |
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crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.11.03 02:46:00 -
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the best is going dual pistol so you don't have to reload |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.11.03 02:50:00 -
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crazy space wrote:the best is going dual pistol so you don't have to reload
I remember doing that last build, burst and assault combo was fun  |
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