DUST Search - What Erks m beyond believe and the worst parts of this game

VK deathslaer wrote:

Ops Fox wrote:

1. The grenade mechanic is god awful I cant get the grenades to go where I want them. Do you have in idea of how much easier heavys would be if my stupid grenade would just throw right. It need more controll over how hard its throw and the arc.

2. The Spawn system, under no circumstances do I want to spawn looking at the enemy ever, yet I repeated respawn in front of tanks lavs and hmg or on ambush maps ill spawn at the far edge when I have a AR or dead center of the map when I have a SR.

3. what the hells up with all the Advanced and proto gear this game was fun when I was fighting in my tier level but now all the matchs I play in im mowed down by gear spades better than mine. Yes I can use this higher tier stuff but I dont make the battlefinder sort by tiers used

I agree with the the grenades not going where I want them to. I find that most annoying on the other hand though. Some people can hit me square in the face with it. So maybe a little more consistency is in order. as with point #2 i also concur spawns need a little more work(a lot in this case)

as for point #3. your just a whiney b. awe i don't have advanced gear nerf it cause i'm a nerf herder. Listen kid train and get better. there will be ppl that are always better then you in some way. Advanced or proto gear doesn't really reflect how "road house" someone is. And it doesn't mean it should be nerfed cuz you emo raged. In fact i would prefer you quit cause your really not making the game better with a constant whine.

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Ops Fox ZionTCD Legacy Rising 197	Posted - 2012.10.29 22:19:00 - [1] - Quote 1. The grenade mechanic is god awful I cant get the grenades to go where I want them. Do you have in idea of how much easier heavys would be if my stupid grenade would just throw right. It need more controll over how hard its throw and the arc. 2. The Spawn system, under no circumstances do I want to spawn looking at the enemy ever, yet I repeated respawn in front of tanks lavs and hmg or on ambush maps ill spawn at the far edge when I have a AR or dead center of the map when I have a SR. 3. what the hells up with all the Advanced and proto gear this game was fun when I was fighting in my tier level but now all the matchs I play in im mowed down by gear spades better than mine. Yes I can use this higher tier stuff but I dont make the battlefinder sort by tiers used
Placid Zan 18	Posted - 2012.10.29 22:23:00 - [2] - Quote 1. I've gotten used to it. 2. Needs to be fixed I agree. 3. There are no filters in battle finder, and if it pisses you off then use it.
VK deathslaer Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 149	Posted - 2012.10.29 22:28:00 - [3] - Quote Ops Fox wrote: 1. The grenade mechanic is god awful I cant get the grenades to go where I want them. Do you have in idea of how much easier heavys would be if my stupid grenade would just throw right. It need more controll over how hard its throw and the arc. 2. The Spawn system, under no circumstances do I want to spawn looking at the enemy ever, yet I repeated respawn in front of tanks lavs and hmg or on ambush maps ill spawn at the far edge when I have a AR or dead center of the map when I have a SR. 3. what the hells up with all the Advanced and proto gear this game was fun when I was fighting in my tier level but now all the matchs I play in im mowed down by gear spades better than mine. Yes I can use this higher tier stuff but I dont make the battlefinder sort by tiers used I agree with the the grenades not going where I want them to. I find that most annoying on the other hand though. Some people can hit me square in the face with it. So maybe a little more consistency is in order. as with point #2 i also concur spawns need a little more work(a lot in this case) as for point #3. your just a whiney b. awe i don't have advanced gear nerf it cause i'm a nerf herder. Listen kid train and get better. there will be ppl that are always better then you in some way. Advanced or proto gear doesn't really reflect how "road house" someone is. And it doesn't mean it should be nerfed cuz you emo raged. In fact i would prefer you quit cause your really not making the game better with a constant whine.
843 pano 843 Boot Camp 200	Posted - 2012.10.29 22:40:00 - [4] - Quote 1: we need a training area to practice. 2: agreed 3: My LAV bumper doesn't care what they wear, all of them spark the same way.
Kyy Seiska Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 188	Posted - 2012.10.29 22:58:00 - [5] - Quote Ops Fox wrote: 3. what the hells up with all the Advanced and proto gear this game was fun when I was fighting in my tier level but now all the matchs I play in im mowed down by gear spades better than mine. Yes I can use this higher tier stuff but I dont make the battlefinder sort by tiers used Dust 514 matchmaking has sucked for as long as I can remember. People who have spent millions of SP and ISK get paired with players who have barely passed the tutorials. Only thing they can do is pick up a sniper rifle or gang up and hope for the best until you get weapons that can actually deal some damage and drop-suit that isn't made out of paper. Current system is pretty merciless and has it's good sides, but fairly off-putting for most new players.
Villore Isu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2012.10.29 23:03:00 - [6] - Quote Kyy Seiska wrote: Ops Fox wrote: 3. what the hells up with all the Advanced and proto gear this game was fun when I was fighting in my tier level but now all the matchs I play in im mowed down by gear spades better than mine. Yes I can use this higher tier stuff but I dont make the battlefinder sort by tiers used Dust 514 matchmaking has sucked for as long as I can remember. People who have spent millions of SP and ISK get paired with players who have barely passed the tutorials. Only thing they can do is pick up a sniper rifle or gang up and hope for the best until you get weapons that can actually deal some damage and drop-suit that isn't made out of paper. Current system is pretty merciless and has it's good sides, but fairly off-putting for most new players. The problem with the current system is the limited size of the beta, while the system does it's best to match players of similar skill, SP and equipment levels, it can only do so much with such a small pool of players.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.10.30 00:11:00 - [7] - Quote you need to think of the little things- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNZzJELbFRI&feature=relmfu
Ops Fox ZionTCD Legacy Rising 197	Posted - 2012.10.30 01:41:00 - [8] - Quote Ba I got the skill to go advanced just dont, so why dont I get put in matchs with other milita and basic gear?
Placid Zan 18	Posted - 2012.10.30 01:47:00 - [9] - Quote Ops Fox wrote: Ba I got the skill to go advanced just dont, so why dont I get put in matchs with other milita and basic gear? Because matchmaking right now just throws you into a match, there aren't enough players to place players into a battle against others with the same skill level or gear. Start reading the posts on you own thread.
Ops Fox ZionTCD Legacy Rising 197	Posted - 2012.10.30 01:54:00 - [10] - Quote VK deathslaer wrote: Ops Fox wrote: 1. The grenade mechanic is god awful I cant get the grenades to go where I want them. Do you have in idea of how much easier heavys would be if my stupid grenade would just throw right. It need more controll over how hard its throw and the arc. 2. The Spawn system, under no circumstances do I want to spawn looking at the enemy ever, yet I repeated respawn in front of tanks lavs and hmg or on ambush maps ill spawn at the far edge when I have a AR or dead center of the map when I have a SR. 3. what the hells up with all the Advanced and proto gear this game was fun when I was fighting in my tier level but now all the matchs I play in im mowed down by gear spades better than mine. Yes I can use this higher tier stuff but I dont make the battlefinder sort by tiers used I agree with the the grenades not going where I want them to. I find that most annoying on the other hand though. Some people can hit me square in the face with it. So maybe a little more consistency is in order. as with point #2 i also concur spawns need a little more work(a lot in this case) as for point #3. your just a whiney b. awe i don't have advanced gear nerf it cause i'm a nerf herder. Listen kid train and get better. there will be ppl that are always better then you in some way. Advanced or proto gear doesn't really reflect how "road house" someone is. And it doesn't mean it should be nerfed cuz you emo raged. In fact i would prefer you quit cause your really not making the game better with a constant whine. Where you get nerf out of that, Your *? No advanced or proto doesnt reflect how good you are but it does make it one steep uphill climb if you dont, all I want is a sorter than puts people with equal level of equipment and skill not so heavily one sided that every match I jion one team is being redlined. Now let me rage in peace. Also im not calling for a nerf but I guess you wouldnt know that seeing as your head is shoved to far up your * to see though all that **** and other than this thread when havent I been constructive, calm, and easy going? Agg going 0/5 cuase evry time I turn around a doullve or gek is eating my milita before I can even shoot back, and cuase my team keeps getting red lined by tanks and dropships, and always joning matchs half over... Thats my rage enjoy, mock but CCP here my wraith before I plunge back into the vile trap you have made for gamers

ugg reset ZionTCD Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.10.30 02:26:00 - [11] - Quote 843 pano wrote: 1: we need a training area to practice. 2: agreed 3: My LAV bumper doesn't care what they wear, all of them spark the same way. 3: HELL YA.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.30 03:46:00 - [12] - Quote Ops Fox wrote: 1. The grenade mechanic is god awful I cant get the grenades to go where I want them. Do you have in idea of how much easier heavys would be if my stupid grenade would just throw right. It need more controll over how hard its throw and the arc. 2. The Spawn system, under no circumstances do I want to spawn looking at the enemy ever, yet I repeated respawn in front of tanks lavs and hmg or on ambush maps ill spawn at the far edge when I have a AR or dead center of the map when I have a SR. 3. what the hells up with all the Advanced and proto gear this game was fun when I was fighting in my tier level but now all the matchs I play in im mowed down by gear spades better than mine. Yes I can use this higher tier stuff but I dont make the battlefinder sort by tiers used You clearly weren't here for Replication or E3. Proto gear is really no harder to kill that Militia gear right now.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.10.30 03:59:00 - [13] - Quote #3 is just your opinion. Most of us have already been playing this build for so long we deserve to abuse all the proto gear we can afford to lose. As for #1 and #2, I agree though.
Kyy Seiska Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 188	Posted - 2012.10.30 05:36:00 - [14] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: #3 is just your opinion. Most of us have already been playing this build for so long we deserve to abuse all the proto gear we can afford to lose. As for #1 and #2, I agree though. Typical RPG argument: "I have been playing this game longer so I deserve to win!" There are many people who have been playing some sport/game for as long as they can remember yet they are still worse than some exceptional people who have been playing the game for a week/month/year.
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2012.10.30 05:48:00 - [15] - Quote 1. random spawning needs work 2. missiles need work, unlimited range unlimited firepower 3. profile needs to be fixed to where it actually does something instead of absolutely nothing.
KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 442	Posted - 2012.10.30 08:35:00 - [16] - Quote 1. The grenade mechanics are excellent. I love the way you have different nades that work very diffrently indeed. I have practised a lot with the standard nades and I can hit just about anything. The trick is to hold in R2 and "cooc it", release after 2-3 seconds and boom. If you can't use the nades properly its definately your own fault, I have many raounds with 10+ kills with normal nades. 2. Not entirely sure I agree. I normally just play Skirmish which gives me lots of choices for spawn points. A random spawning in Ambush might be annoying, I'll grant you that, but again thats why we have drop uplinks. 3. Really? You kind of nailed your own coffin shut if this is meant as a complaint. "Get gud", "adapt or die" and so and so forth...
Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 140	Posted - 2012.10.30 08:49:00 - [17] - Quote Ops Fox wrote: 1. The grenade mechanic is god awful I cant get the grenades to go where I want them. Do you have in idea of how much easier heavys would be if my stupid grenade would just throw right. It need more controll over how hard its throw and the arc. 2. The Spawn system, under no circumstances do I want to spawn looking at the enemy ever, yet I repeated respawn in front of tanks lavs and hmg or on ambush maps ill spawn at the far edge when I have a AR or dead center of the map when I have a SR. 3. what the hells up with all the Advanced and proto gear this game was fun when I was fighting in my tier level but now all the matchs I play in im mowed down by gear spades better than mine. Yes I can use this higher tier stuff but I dont make the battlefinder sort by tiers used 1.Grenades aren't broken if your having trouble getting range on your nades try using the "sleek locus nades" i believe you can throw them further and carry 3 instead of 2 great for heavies IMHO. An age old fps trick is when your about to throw it look up at 45 degrees and JUMP as your about to throw it, should get more height = throw further. 2. Yes it's broken, but it's like Karma what goes around comes around, I might die 2-3 times to it one match but then get 2-3 kills for it the next game. 3.It's not the actual gear itself.. its the skills that people have built up "compound" the gap between millitia and proto suits. Someone with 2mil SP and a millittia suit woundn't be far off someone with 1mil SP in advanced gear (infact the 2mil SP guy would probably win 7/10 times) But at the end of the day a decent nade and good trigger control is all you need to take someone with a proto suit down. Range is your only enemy when it comes to proto guns on the other hand, stay low and in cover until your in a good spot where you can get the jump on them.
NewOldMan KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2012.10.30 09:15:00 - [18] - Quote I agree with the grenades thing. But as for the battle finder filter that has no place in DUST. Even if you put the people with proto suits and what not all into the same match some of them may not want to run with those, Why? Because they aren't forced to. It's not like the game forces you to use stuff you have unlocked it's all up to you. Also I've seen BPO militia players get the drop on proto guys. It's not like they activated god mode. Just takes more skill and teamwork.
Adeptus Ezekiel Bragian Order Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2012.10.30 09:24:00 - [19] - Quote 1. Its definitely not great, but after a while I have gotten used to it. Wouldn't complain about improvement though. 2. Yes its rubbish. Hopefully only for Beta testing and to be forever consigned to the dustbin post release. If not why not? 3. I disagree (and that is as someone who uses 90% or more militia items on my fitouts).
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.10.30 12:40:00 - [20] - Quote Kyy Seiska wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: #3 is just your opinion. Most of us have already been playing this build for so long we deserve to abuse all the proto gear we can afford to lose. As for #1 and #2, I agree though. Typical RPG argument: "I have been playing this game longer so I deserve to win!" There are many people who have been playing some sport/game for as long as they can remember yet they are still worse than some exceptional people who have been playing the game for a week/month/year. So you wish to punish success? Oh you mean limit success. Which is basically punishing it anyways since you can't seem to adapt to the proto presence.



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