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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.29 07:07:00 -
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Hello everyone.
I was checking out the updated bracket this morning and i noticed that for EU. Quarters finals are :
ZION TCD against SI and WTF vs Southern Legion.
Where initially it was supposed to be 1st vs 2nd of a same group.
Personnaly, i tend to like it better this way as it allows to play one more different team and it's way more common as a tourney mechanics than having quarters between members of a same original group. Now, i would have thought it would be :
First group A against Second group B etc... Thus => WTF vs ZION and SI vs southern.
Dev input ? |
Eternal Technique
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2012.10.29 07:24:00 -
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This bracket makes more sense, its how a tournament should be organized. Overall I think that most teams will be happy about this change, except maybe ROFL House and KEQ. |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.10.29 07:33:00 -
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If it's gonna work this way, I can tell you that WTF pretty much like it |
m621 zma
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
22
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Posted - 2012.10.29 08:14:00 -
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Eternal Technique wrote:This bracket makes more sense, its how a tournament should be organized. Overall I think that most teams will be happy about this change, except maybe ROFL House and KEQ.
It only makes sense if southern legion and wtf were fighting for 3rd/4th place in EU group and SI/Zion were fighting for 1st/2nd. |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.10.29 08:33:00 -
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m621 zma wrote:Eternal Technique wrote:This bracket makes more sense, its how a tournament should be organized. Overall I think that most teams will be happy about this change, except maybe ROFL House and KEQ. It only makes sense if southern legion and wtf were fighting for 3rd/4th place in EU group and SI/Zion were fighting for 1st/2nd.
True, we'd to fight Zion and not SL... |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.29 08:59:00 -
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m621 zma wrote:Eternal Technique wrote:This bracket makes more sense, its how a tournament should be organized. Overall I think that most teams will be happy about this change, except maybe ROFL House and KEQ. It only makes sense if southern legion and wtf were fighting for 3rd/4th place in EU group and SI/Zion were fighting for 1st/2nd.
Exactly. Any tournament is supposed to give an advantage to 1st teams in round robin. Allowing them to face a supposedly weaker teams in quarter that finished "only" second in its group.
Still, it's at the moment way better than having "intra-group" quarter finals but could be way more logicial |
STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.10.29 10:00:00 -
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Eternal Technique wrote:This bracket makes more sense, its how a tournament should be organized. Overall I think that most teams will be happy about this change, except maybe ROFL House and KEQ.
Why would we care? |
Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming
154
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Posted - 2012.10.29 10:12:00 -
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STYLIE77 wrote:Eternal Technique wrote:This bracket makes more sense, its how a tournament should be organized. Overall I think that most teams will be happy about this change, except maybe ROFL House and KEQ. Why would we care?
Because ROFL needs to go against the might of Imperfects!
And KEQ also needs to vs SyN!
And you're also not vsing your alliance corp who you're good mates with. |
STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.10.29 10:25:00 -
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Kleanur Guy wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:Eternal Technique wrote:This bracket makes more sense, its how a tournament should be organized. Overall I think that most teams will be happy about this change, except maybe ROFL House and KEQ. Why would we care? Because ROFL needs to go against the might of Imperfects! And KEQ also needs to vs SyN! And you're also not vsing your alliance corp who you're good mates with.
Bro... he said that most teams would be happy about this except RofL House and KEQ...
So you think KEQ would have preferred fighting RofL House in a best of 3?
I am a bit confused by your reply to be honest. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.29 10:40:00 -
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So what you're saying is that the HAV and Dropships that we're blowing up will belong to different people?
In seriousness tho this is a bit odd to me. I'm not quite following what method was used to decide the current set up.
In the end tho I suppose a match is a match is a match so we'll gear up to play just the same and let the chips fall where they may.
Cheers, Cross |
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2012.10.29 10:51:00 -
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Will go where put, but I'm not a fan of rule changes with out warning. While in beta this is acceptable, but in future events such as this will look more professional if the guidelines laid out are followed.
Or is this the Hunger Games? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:26:00 -
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interesting change we were gearing up to play our "final" weekend vs IMP
overall the change makes sense since in no tourney 2 teams from the same group face each other again in the 1st knockout round which in this case is the QFs but CCP should of known that.
overall we will play whoever and give 100% as always doesnt matter who we face we gonna give our best |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.10.29 12:45:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:So what you're saying is that the HAV and Dropships that we're blowing up will belong to different people? In seriousness tho this is a bit odd to me. I'm not quite following what method was used to decide the current set up. In the end tho I suppose a match is a match is a match so we'll gear up to play just the same and let the chips fall where they may. Cheers, Cross I hope you have more vehicle capability then WTF got. Cause with only AV you wont win the match, they tried it and failed.Anyway we are going to see each others on the weekend. And dont forget best of 3 and not just 1 match. Basically who first wins 2 times will proceed in the tournament. And i can grant you that SI is going to gear up massively. Expect to see proto gear and all kind of vehicles. Im excited for this a oponent that can put up a good fight. |
Ribbons Reborns
Doomheim
68
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Posted - 2012.10.29 14:27:00 -
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It's funny how the table turns hehe. |
Traky78
What The French
115
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Posted - 2012.10.29 14:53:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Cross Atu wrote:So what you're saying is that the HAV and Dropships that we're blowing up will belong to different people? In seriousness tho this is a bit odd to me. I'm not quite following what method was used to decide the current set up. In the end tho I suppose a match is a match is a match so we'll gear up to play just the same and let the chips fall where they may. Cheers, Cross I hope you have more vehicle capability then WTF got. Cause with only AV you wont win the match, they tried it and failed.Anyway we are going to see each others on the weekend. And dont forget best of 3 and not just 1 match. Basically who first wins 2 times will proceed in the tournament. And i can grant you that SI is going to gear up massively. Expect to see proto gear and all kind of vehicles. Im excited for this a oponent that can put up a good fight.
You ve got capability vehicules ? You have got goods Myron... Just what i see. Maybe Tyas Borg has a good HAV. And i repeat, if dropships are the way to win, we are working on. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.10.29 15:00:00 -
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Dude give up you had 2-3 dropships that took off from your spawn point but they got instantly shot down. Oh and only having a dropship doesnt make you a good pilot. Like jenza i see her quite a good amount of times flying but she gets allways shotdown. Oh and beware of the frame rate issues you will get them and then you are dead. simple due to the fact when you freeze on your console your dropship is stuck in mid air and not moving. Good that i have better hardware then 99% off the players on this game. And i dont mean ingame items. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.29 15:02:00 -
[17] - Quote
The dark cloud wrote:Dude give up you had 2-3 dropships that took off from your spawn point but they got instantly shot down. Oh and only having a dropship doesnt make you a good pilot. Like jenza i see her quite a good amount of times flying but she gets allways shotdown. Oh and beware of the frame rate issues you will get them and then you are dead. Good that i have better hardware then 99% off the players on this game. And i dont mean ingame items.
Dark cloud and his SSD. |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:26:00 -
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The bracket change is a bit upsetting, I was planning my skillpoints around a November 9th match against the Imperfects not November 3rd :D It's exciting to be able to face the group favored to win earlier on, though. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:43:00 -
[19] - Quote
The dark cloud wrote:Cross Atu wrote:So what you're saying is that the HAV and Dropships that we're blowing up will belong to different people? In seriousness tho this is a bit odd to me. I'm not quite following what method was used to decide the current set up. In the end tho I suppose a match is a match is a match so we'll gear up to play just the same and let the chips fall where they may. Cheers, Cross I hope you have more vehicle capability then WTF got. Cause with only AV you wont win the match, they tried it and failed.Anyway we are going to see each others on the weekend. And dont forget best of 3 and not just 1 match. Basically who first wins 2 times will proceed in the tournament. And i can grant you that SI is going to gear up massively. Expect to see proto gear and all kind of vehicles. Im excited for this a oponent that can put up a good fight.
We'll see you on the field Dark
o7
Cross |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:02:00 -
[20] - Quote
The dark cloud wrote:Dude give up you had 2-3 dropships that took off from your spawn point but they got instantly shot down. Oh and only having a dropship doesnt make you a good pilot. Like jenza i see her quite a good amount of times flying but she gets allways shotdown. Oh and beware of the frame rate issues you will get them and then you are dead. simple due to the fact when you freeze on your console your dropship is stuck in mid air and not moving. Good that i have better hardware then 99% off the players on this game. And i dont mean ingame items.
We all know that you "cheat" as far as possible !!!
But admit that it's not really a glorious way ... You're just using exploit, even if you're a good pilot (no doubt on this)
The good way as a Beta Tester, but no real glory on the battlefield.... |
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:08:00 -
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Traky78 wrote: if dropships are the way to win, we are working on.
You are on the right track! |
ATR Kuan Ti
Above The Rest
64
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:17:00 -
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Eternal Technique wrote:This bracket makes more sense, its how a tournament should be organized. Overall I think that most teams will be happy about this change, except maybe ROFL House and KEQ. lol its just Imperfects there good ill give them that but from what ive seen there not the best I think it will be a good mach |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.29 21:11:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Hello everyone.
I was checking out the updated bracket this morning and i noticed that for EU. Quarters finals are :
ZION TCD against SI and WTF vs Southern Legion.
Where initially it was supposed to be 1st vs 2nd of a same group.
Personnaly, i tend to like it better this way as it allows to play one more different team and it's way more common as a tourney mechanics than having quarters between members of a same original group. Now, i would have thought it would be :
First group A against Second group B etc... Thus => WTF vs ZION and SI vs southern.
Dev input ?
You only like it because you think you got a better chance vs us then you do SL, well do i got news for you =) lol |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.29 21:14:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:So what you're saying is that the HAV and Dropships that we're blowing up will belong to different people? In seriousness tho this is a bit odd to me. I'm not quite following what method was used to decide the current set up. In the end tho I suppose a match is a match is a match so we'll gear up to play just the same and let the chips fall where they may. Cheers, Cross
Very interested in Zion vs Sl, because if you can't beat them how the hell are we going to? lol |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.10.29 21:40:00 -
[25] - Quote
Quite upset about this. I was looking forward to meeting the french again. I'd got proto cheese and tissues ready and everything :(. Never mind.
Should be a good match up anyways. Cya at the weekend Zion! ;). |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2012.10.30 01:01:00 -
[26] - Quote
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Quite upset about this. I was looking forward to meeting the french again. I'd got proto cheese and tissues ready and everything :(. Never mind.
Should be a good match up anyways. Cya at the weekend Zion! ;).
Look forward to the match. WTF your going to have the work cut out for you against SL. You better step up your AV game |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.30 04:38:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Hello everyone.
I was checking out the updated bracket this morning and i noticed that for EU. Quarters finals are :
ZION TCD against SI and WTF vs Southern Legion.
Where initially it was supposed to be 1st vs 2nd of a same group.
Personnaly, i tend to like it better this way as it allows to play one more different team and it's way more common as a tourney mechanics than having quarters between members of a same original group. Now, i would have thought it would be :
First group A against Second group B etc... Thus => WTF vs ZION and SI vs southern.
Dev input ?
"Now, i would have thought it would be :
First group A against Second group B etc..." I think because Zion and Sl came out on top of their respective groups, that's why they were paired together while WTF and SL were 2nd so we fight each other. |
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CCP Frame
C C P C C P Alliance
470
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Posted - 2012.10.30 05:28:00 -
[28] - Quote
We apologize for that guys, we fixed the brackets now on our website: http://www.dust514.com/community/news/2012/10/dust-514-testers-tournament/ |
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Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2012.10.30 05:30:00 -
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It sucks because we were making strategies to use against Zion, then we made ones for WTF and now we're back to zion. |
Eternal Technique
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2012.10.30 05:45:00 -
[30] - Quote
Ah so we are back to the original bracket, which made less sense than this one. Idk between controversy over who got into the tournament, brackets that don't make sense, and now confusion over who is playing who, it just seems this was all very poorly done. Strange because CCP has been running the Alliance Tournament successfully for many years. I would think they knew how to do it by now.
And now I understand CCP had originally intended to do A1 vs B2 in the quarterfinals (which is a standard tournament setup), but a miscommunication resulted in the A1 vs A2 setup. If that was the intention I dont see why not just do it that way but whatever. |
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Pranekt Tyrvoth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
177
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Posted - 2012.10.30 06:53:00 -
[31] - Quote
I'm disappointed in the overall instability and frequency of changes. No change should have been made in the first place, a lot of the time people are having to call out of work or prioritize based on specializations or strategies or vehicle piloting skills, etc -- so now people required for one battle may not be available for the one they would be needed for.
Aside of that it's really just poor in general to be making these kind of frequent changes.
In the future I hope that when tournaments or other types of events come up, CCP makes sure they figure out a proper, flowing schedule/brackets and sticks to it. |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.30 07:29:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:It sucks because we were making strategies to use against Zion, then we made ones for WTF and now we're back to zion. Yah |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.30 08:24:00 -
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Ok....
This tourney doesnt make sense at all. Time, then other times. opponents then other opponents then back to original opponents. Insane brackets that makes no sense at all.
GG. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:31:00 -
[34] - Quote
Agreed Laurent. Badly run tournament. Even for a beta.
All they had to do was draw the teams properly, and not change the day/time just to suit people with nothing to do at weekends. Who live in America.
While I'm happy there is a tournament at all, I just think too much of CCP's time is being wasted on it. |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
1876
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:34:00 -
[35] - Quote
Hey folks,
We know that the tournament has gone through some changes and we understand that you would prefer a more stable process. For that we apologize and ask for your patience and support as we refine this process during beta and make future tournaments better.
In the interest of lessening the confusion around the tournament we will keep things as they are and continue with the a1 vs a2 scheme for the remainder of this tournament. In the future we will introduce better matching systems and improve the whole process. Thank you. |
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GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:37:00 -
[36] - Quote
Why we're not facing Zion, and SI vs TSL ? As it's suppose to be like EVERY Tournament....
Well, GL again to Seraphim ;) (and Zion n TSL too) !!! |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:44:00 -
[37] - Quote
CCP no offense.............but ive run better managed tournaments during my days on other games than this ill post up a feedback thread for u guys later |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:27:00 -
[38] - Quote
A1 vs B2 B1 vs A2 C1 vs D2 D1 vs C2
Took me 5 seconds to : think it, write it, post it.
what is happening with you and this tournament. It's dumb as hell. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:28:00 -
[39] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hey folks,
We know that the tournament has gone through some changes and we understand that you would prefer a more stable process. For that we apologize and ask for your patience and support as we refine this process during beta and make future tournaments better.
In the interest of lessening the confusion around the tournament we will keep things as they are and continue with the a1 vs a2 scheme for the remainder of this tournament. In the future we will introduce better matching systems and improve the whole process. Thank you.
Lessening the confusion ? too late Phil. You should go ahead and do an actual LOGIC change. |
Adeptus Ezekiel
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:34:00 -
[40] - Quote
Laurent Cazaderon wrote:A1 vs B2 B1 vs A2 C1 vs D2 D1 vs C2
Took me 5 seconds to : think it, write it, post it.
what is happening with you and this tournament. It's dumb as hell.
Its all a bit bizarre. CCP have been running EVE tourneys for years and they generally seem to go quite well. No idea how this ended up such a mess. |
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4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:40:00 -
[41] - Quote
GLOO GLOO wrote:Why we're not facing Zion, and SI vs TSL ? As it's suppose to be like EVERY Tournament....
Well, GL again to Seraphim ;) (and Zion n TSL too) !!!
what's the point, you flying a drop ship needs more work. |
Aotherea
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:49:00 -
[42] - Quote
u guys are to serious lol. why not just enjoy tourny and get cool stuff n next one is better? |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:42:00 -
[43] - Quote
Tony Calif wrote:and not change the day/time just to suit people with nothing to do at weekends. Who live in America.
lol |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:54:00 -
[44] - Quote
4447 wrote:GLOO GLOO wrote:Why we're not facing Zion, and SI vs TSL ? As it's suppose to be like EVERY Tournament....
Well, GL again to Seraphim ;) (and Zion n TSL too) !!! what's the point, you flying a drop ship needs more work.
I know, it's just for being logical ... |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
442
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:59:00 -
[45] - Quote
I think this is a very mature thing of CCP to do. Admitting a mistake and correcting it imidiately is a sign of good will and the ability and willingness to make things work. Thanks and thumbs up from me.
It is obviously wrong that the two leading corps from each bracket is to knock one of eachother out in the quarterfinals, its just bad form. |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:02:00 -
[46] - Quote
Cyn Bruin wrote:Tony Calif wrote:and not change the day/time just to suit people with nothing to do at weekends. Who live in America. lol
I take your "lol" and raise you a "ROFL" |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:10:00 -
[47] - Quote
Anyone else notice they pushed the times back again to cater for the americans?
Biased much? |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:14:00 -
[48] - Quote
GLOO GLOO wrote:4447 wrote:GLOO GLOO wrote:Why we're not facing Zion, and SI vs TSL ? As it's suppose to be like EVERY Tournament....
Well, GL again to Seraphim ;) (and Zion n TSL too) !!! what's the point, you flying a drop ship needs more work. I know, it's just for being logical ...
Not being nasty just...Want you at your best. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:34:00 -
[49] - Quote
D3aTH D3alER54 wrote:Cyn Bruin wrote:Tony Calif wrote:and not change the day/time just to suit people with nothing to do at weekends. Who live in America. lol I take your "lol" and raise you a "ROFL"
That ROFL was taken away, were are back to living in Syn.
I am glad that CCP came out with an apology, glad you guys owned up. Even though this tourney has had a lot of "beta" moments, was very cool of CCP to actually hold this thing. Been in alot of betas and never had a company come through with a tournament(looking at you BF3).
One thing though...
Please tell me after this tournament the corporation battles will be going to 16v16? |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:46:00 -
[50] - Quote
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Anyone else notice they pushed the times back again to cater for the americans?
Biased much?
tell me about it... |
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:06:00 -
[51] - Quote
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Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1032
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Posted - 2012.10.30 15:57:00 -
[52] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hey folks,
We know that the tournament has gone through some changes and we understand that you would prefer a more stable process. For that we apologize and ask for your patience and support as we refine this process during beta and make future tournaments better.
In the interest of lessening the confusion around the tournament we will keep things as they are and continue with the a1 vs a2 scheme for the remainder of this tournament. In the future we will introduce better matching systems and improve the whole process. Thank you.
so you are willing to make a change but make the incorrect one again?
You ever hear of the saying "better the right way then my way"?
I appreciate the tourny but your fail is showing |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.30 16:45:00 -
[53] - Quote
Free Beers wrote:so you are willing to make a change but make the incorrect one again?
You ever here of the saying "better the right way then my way"?
I appreciate the tourny but your fail is showing
Remind me to buy you a beer lol. +1 for this. |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
334
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Posted - 2012.10.30 17:02:00 -
[54] - Quote
KingBabar wrote:I think this is a very mature thing of CCP to do. Admitting a mistake and correcting it imidiately is a sign of good will and the ability and willingness to make things work. Thanks and thumbs up from me.
It is obviously wrong that the two leading corps from each bracket is to knock one of eachother out in the quarterfinals, its just bad form.
LOL.
Free Beers wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hey folks,
We know that the tournament has gone through some changes and we understand that you would prefer a more stable process. For that we apologize and ask for your patience and support as we refine this process during beta and make future tournaments better.
In the interest of lessening the confusion around the tournament we will keep things as they are and continue with the a1 vs a2 scheme for the remainder of this tournament. In the future we will introduce better matching systems and improve the whole process. Thank you. so you are willing to make a change but make the incorrect one again? You ever here of the saying "better the right way then my way"? I appreciate the tourny but your fail is showing
What Free Beers said... oh well joke tourney is joke tourney.
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Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
SyNergy Gaming
242
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Posted - 2012.10.30 17:27:00 -
[55] - Quote
Free Beers wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hey folks,
We know that the tournament has gone through some changes and we understand that you would prefer a more stable process. For that we apologize and ask for your patience and support as we refine this process during beta and make future tournaments better.
In the interest of lessening the confusion around the tournament we will keep things as they are and continue with the a1 vs a2 scheme for the remainder of this tournament. In the future we will introduce better matching systems and improve the whole process. Thank you. so you are willing to make a change but make the incorrect one again? You ever hear of the saying "better the right way then my way"? I appreciate the tourny but your fail is showing
The way the 'mistake' had altered it would put A1 vs B1, from (what it has been reverted back to) A1 vs A2... but that 'mistake' was still an improvement.
What it should be is A1 vs B2 B1 vs A2... So the most correct way would of been us vs ROFL, Imp vs KEQ... but instead you revert back to the most mistaken way.
Eitherway, sure, the best EU corp and best US corp will probably meet the finals, but you really cant trust any of the rankings beyond that.
So we will know the #1 overall, the 2nd place being more like the #1 for their region, and given credit as being a highly effective team and possibly overall #2. Then there is no credibility for the rest of the order. |
Berserker007
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.10.30 17:50:00 -
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In all honesty the brackets are correct now. You never do out of group play till u reach semifinals in anything. The reason it is an issue is b/c of the round r,obin play. If they simply increase the teams, 24 or 32 total, and do a pure elimination game till reach the quarter finals then everything would of worked like a proper bracket. |
Kasshern s Chrome
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.10.30 18:12:00 -
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.10.30 18:47:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:In all honesty the brackets are correct now. You never do out of group play till u reach semifinals in anything. The reason it is an issue is b/c of the round r,obin play. If they simply increase the teams, 24 or 32 total, and do a pure elimination game till reach the quarter finals then everything would of worked like a proper bracket.
A couple questions and answers.
1. Why didn't CCP seed the tournament 1-8 on each side?
A: They probably didn't know how to properly judge the corporations or even know whom some of them are.
2. Why didn't CCP follow a standard 16 tournament bracket?
A: They could have used the one and done Sweet 16 elimination tournament style. But they wanted to continue to test this feature with 16 people imo. Which is why they are dragging this thing out over a few weeks. I'm sure we will get a new build a week or so after tournament is over, fits the last few builds timeframe.
There was no way they were going to do a 24 or 32 team bracket. Some corporations are having problems fielding only 16 people. Which probably should have been taken into account before the tournament started (Yes Tritan/STB shoulda been in, different discussion).
The haphazard way this was thrown together makes it seem like it was a one hour meeting that was had on the subject and they thought this would be a good way to test more people in corp. battles in which they could observe. Not much thought put into the structure of it, only the data farmed from it.
Uneducated guess from an educated noob. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.31 09:00:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:In all honesty the brackets are correct now. You never do out of group play till u reach semifinals in anything.
Huh ? Try any other competition of any kind maybe ? |
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