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Pranekt Tyrvoth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
177
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Posted - 2012.10.30 06:53:00 -
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I'm disappointed in the overall instability and frequency of changes. No change should have been made in the first place, a lot of the time people are having to call out of work or prioritize based on specializations or strategies or vehicle piloting skills, etc -- so now people required for one battle may not be available for the one they would be needed for.
Aside of that it's really just poor in general to be making these kind of frequent changes.
In the future I hope that when tournaments or other types of events come up, CCP makes sure they figure out a proper, flowing schedule/brackets and sticks to it. |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.30 07:29:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:It sucks because we were making strategies to use against Zion, then we made ones for WTF and now we're back to zion.
Yah |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.30 08:24:00 -
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Ok....
This tourney doesnt make sense at all. Time, then other times. opponents then other opponents then back to original opponents. Insane brackets that makes no sense at all.
GG. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:31:00 -
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Agreed Laurent. Badly run tournament. Even for a beta.
All they had to do was draw the teams properly, and not change the day/time just to suit people with nothing to do at weekends. Who live in America.
While I'm happy there is a tournament at all, I just think too much of CCP's time is being wasted on it. |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P
C C P Alliance
1876
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:34:00 -
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Hey folks,
We know that the tournament has gone through some changes and we understand that you would prefer a more stable process. For that we apologize and ask for your patience and support as we refine this process during beta and make future tournaments better.
In the interest of lessening the confusion around the tournament we will keep things as they are and continue with the a1 vs a2 scheme for the remainder of this tournament. In the future we will introduce better matching systems and improve the whole process. Thank you. |
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GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:37:00 -
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Why we're not facing Zion, and SI vs TSL ? As it's suppose to be like EVERY Tournament....
Well, GL again to Seraphim ;) (and Zion n TSL too) !!! |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:44:00 -
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CCP no offense.............but ive run better managed tournaments during my days on other games than this
ill post up a feedback thread for u guys later |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:27:00 -
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A1 vs B2
B1 vs A2
C1 vs D2
D1 vs C2
Took me 5 seconds to : think it, write it, post it.
what is happening with you and this tournament. It's dumb as hell. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:28:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hey folks,
We know that the tournament has gone through some changes and we understand that you would prefer a more stable process. For that we apologize and ask for your patience and support as we refine this process during beta and make future tournaments better.
In the interest of lessening the confusion around the tournament we will keep things as they are and continue with the a1 vs a2 scheme for the remainder of this tournament. In the future we will introduce better matching systems and improve the whole process. Thank you.
Lessening the confusion ? too late Phil. You should go ahead and do an actual LOGIC change. |
Adeptus Ezekiel
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:34:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:A1 vs B2
B1 vs A2
C1 vs D2
D1 vs C2
Took me 5 seconds to : think it, write it, post it.
what is happening with you and this tournament. It's dumb as hell.
Its all a bit bizarre. CCP have been running EVE tourneys for years and they generally seem to go quite well. No idea how this ended up such a mess. |
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4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:40:00 -
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GLOO GLOO wrote:Why we're not facing Zion, and SI vs TSL ? As it's suppose to be like EVERY Tournament....
Well, GL again to Seraphim ;) (and Zion n TSL too) !!!
what's the point, you flying a drop ship needs more work. |
Aotherea
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:49:00 -
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u guys are to serious lol. why not just enjoy tourny and get cool stuff n next one is better? |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:42:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:and not change the day/time just to suit people with nothing to do at weekends. Who live in America.
lol |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:54:00 -
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4447 wrote:GLOO GLOO wrote:Why we're not facing Zion, and SI vs TSL ? As it's suppose to be like EVERY Tournament....
Well, GL again to Seraphim ;) (and Zion n TSL too) !!! what's the point, you flying a drop ship needs more work.
I know, it's just for being logical ... |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
442
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:59:00 -
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I think this is a very mature thing of CCP to do. Admitting a mistake and correcting it imidiately is a sign of good will and the ability and willingness to make things work. Thanks and thumbs up from me.
It is obviously wrong that the two leading corps from each bracket is to knock one of eachother out in the quarterfinals, its just bad form. |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:02:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote:Tony Calif wrote:and not change the day/time just to suit people with nothing to do at weekends. Who live in America. lol
I take your "lol" and raise you a "ROFL" |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:10:00 -
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Anyone else notice they pushed the times back again to cater for the americans?
Biased much? |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:14:00 -
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GLOO GLOO wrote:4447 wrote:GLOO GLOO wrote:Why we're not facing Zion, and SI vs TSL ? As it's suppose to be like EVERY Tournament....
Well, GL again to Seraphim ;) (and Zion n TSL too) !!! what's the point, you flying a drop ship needs more work. I know, it's just for being logical ...
Not being nasty just...Want you at your best. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:34:00 -
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D3aTH D3alER54 wrote:Cyn Bruin wrote:Tony Calif wrote:and not change the day/time just to suit people with nothing to do at weekends. Who live in America. lol I take your "lol" and raise you a "ROFL"
That ROFL was taken away, were are back to living in Syn.
I am glad that CCP came out with an apology, glad you guys owned up. Even though this tourney has had a lot of "beta" moments, was very cool of CCP to actually hold this thing. Been in alot of betas and never had a company come through with a tournament(looking at you BF3).
One thing though...
Please tell me after this tournament the corporation battles will be going to 16v16? |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:46:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Anyone else notice they pushed the times back again to cater for the americans?
Biased much?
tell me about it... |
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:06:00 -
[51] - Quote
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Free Beers
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1032
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Posted - 2012.10.30 15:57:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hey folks,
We know that the tournament has gone through some changes and we understand that you would prefer a more stable process. For that we apologize and ask for your patience and support as we refine this process during beta and make future tournaments better.
In the interest of lessening the confusion around the tournament we will keep things as they are and continue with the a1 vs a2 scheme for the remainder of this tournament. In the future we will introduce better matching systems and improve the whole process. Thank you.
so you are willing to make a change but make the incorrect one again?
You ever hear of the saying "better the right way then my way"?
I appreciate the tourny but your fail is showing |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.30 16:45:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:so you are willing to make a change but make the incorrect one again?
You ever here of the saying "better the right way then my way"?
I appreciate the tourny but your fail is showing
Remind me to buy you a beer lol. +1 for this. |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
334
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Posted - 2012.10.30 17:02:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:I think this is a very mature thing of CCP to do. Admitting a mistake and correcting it imidiately is a sign of good will and the ability and willingness to make things work. Thanks and thumbs up from me.
It is obviously wrong that the two leading corps from each bracket is to knock one of eachother out in the quarterfinals, its just bad form.
LOL.
Free Beers wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hey folks,
We know that the tournament has gone through some changes and we understand that you would prefer a more stable process. For that we apologize and ask for your patience and support as we refine this process during beta and make future tournaments better.
In the interest of lessening the confusion around the tournament we will keep things as they are and continue with the a1 vs a2 scheme for the remainder of this tournament. In the future we will introduce better matching systems and improve the whole process. Thank you. so you are willing to make a change but make the incorrect one again? You ever here of the saying "better the right way then my way"? I appreciate the tourny but your fail is showing
What Free Beers said... oh well joke tourney is joke tourney.
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Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
SyNergy Gaming
242
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Posted - 2012.10.30 17:27:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hey folks,
We know that the tournament has gone through some changes and we understand that you would prefer a more stable process. For that we apologize and ask for your patience and support as we refine this process during beta and make future tournaments better.
In the interest of lessening the confusion around the tournament we will keep things as they are and continue with the a1 vs a2 scheme for the remainder of this tournament. In the future we will introduce better matching systems and improve the whole process. Thank you. so you are willing to make a change but make the incorrect one again? You ever hear of the saying "better the right way then my way"? I appreciate the tourny but your fail is showing
The way the 'mistake' had altered it would put A1 vs B1, from (what it has been reverted back to) A1 vs A2... but that 'mistake' was still an improvement.
What it should be is A1 vs B2 B1 vs A2... So the most correct way would of been us vs ROFL, Imp vs KEQ... but instead you revert back to the most mistaken way.
Eitherway, sure, the best EU corp and best US corp will probably meet the finals, but you really cant trust any of the rankings beyond that.
So we will know the #1 overall, the 2nd place being more like the #1 for their region, and given credit as being a highly effective team and possibly overall #2. Then there is no credibility for the rest of the order. |
Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
206
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Posted - 2012.10.30 17:50:00 -
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In all honesty the brackets are correct now. You never do out of group play till u reach semifinals in anything. The reason it is an issue is b/c of the round r,obin play. If they simply increase the teams, 24 or 32 total, and do a pure elimination game till reach the quarter finals then everything would of worked like a proper bracket. |
Kasshern s Chrome
SyNergy Gaming
47
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Posted - 2012.10.30 18:12:00 -
[57] - Quote
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.30 18:25:00 -
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Cyn Bruin
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2012.10.30 18:47:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:In all honesty the brackets are correct now. You never do out of group play till u reach semifinals in anything. The reason it is an issue is b/c of the round r,obin play. If they simply increase the teams, 24 or 32 total, and do a pure elimination game till reach the quarter finals then everything would of worked like a proper bracket.
A couple questions and answers.
1. Why didn't CCP seed the tournament 1-8 on each side?
A: They probably didn't know how to properly judge the corporations or even know whom some of them are.
2. Why didn't CCP follow a standard 16 tournament bracket?
A: They could have used the one and done Sweet 16 elimination tournament style. But they wanted to continue to test this feature with 16 people imo. Which is why they are dragging this thing out over a few weeks. I'm sure we will get a new build a week or so after tournament is over, fits the last few builds timeframe.
There was no way they were going to do a 24 or 32 team bracket. Some corporations are having problems fielding only 16 people. Which probably should have been taken into account before the tournament started (Yes Tritan/STB shoulda been in, different discussion).
The haphazard way this was thrown together makes it seem like it was a one hour meeting that was had on the subject and they thought this would be a good way to test more people in corp. battles in which they could observe. Not much thought put into the structure of it, only the data farmed from it.
Uneducated guess from an educated noob. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.31 09:00:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:In all honesty the brackets are correct now. You never do out of group play till u reach semifinals in anything.
Huh ? 
Try any other competition of any kind maybe ? |
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