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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.29 04:30:00 -
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I'm tired of getting shot by snipers or people with heavy machinery that never shows up on my HUD.....especially snipers. When we get killed, it should at least show the direction where it came from. We don't need BF3's killcam but MAG's way of showing the direction in which you got shot from will suffice. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.10.29 04:32:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I'm tired of getting shot by snipers or people with heavy machinery that never shows up on my HUD.....especially snipers. When we get killed, it should at least show the direction where it came from. We don't need BF3's killcam but MAG's way of showing the direction in which you got shot from will suffice.
Nah, we're okay. |
Pranekt Tyrvoth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
177
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Posted - 2012.10.29 04:36:00 -
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Why? So you can go get a revenge kill and it kind of eliminates part of the point of sniping? No thanks.
I'm not even a sniper and I say don't bother with killcams.
If I'm not good enough to figure out where the shot came from, or situationally aware enough to identify those types of threats [and their likely crouched 'hiding spots'] and attempt to avoid hostile lanes of fire, I deserve to get sniped. Killcam = easy mode, novice, does not encourage anyone to adapt or improve, it simply gives them an easy revenge. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.29 04:44:00 -
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Pranekt Tyrvoth wrote:Why? So you can go get a revenge kill and it kind of eliminates part of the point of sniping? No thanks.
I'm not even a sniper and I say don't bother with killcams.
If I'm not good enough to figure out where the shot came from, or situationally aware enough to identify those types of threats [and their likely crouched 'hiding spots'] and attempt to avoid hostile lanes of fire, I deserve to get sniped. Killcam = easy mode, novice, does not encourage anyone to adapt or improve, it simply gives them an easy revenge.
What are you saying? Only noobs get sniped? Do you know how many snipers flood a map?
I guess every shooter is easy mode then |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.29 04:49:00 -
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Change the thread title ydubbs. This is NOT a kill cam.
Face the direction of your death while bleeding out is a good call. If you are a clone, and you get shot, I'm pretty sure you'd know which direction the bullet smashed through your armour from.
No bleed out (large railgun for example) means no change of facing though. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.29 04:56:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Change the thread title ydubbs. This is NOT a kill cam.
Face the direction of your death while bleeding out is a good call. If you are a clone, and you get shot, I'm pretty sure you'd know which direction the bullet smashed through your armour from.
No bleed out (large railgun for example) means no change of facing though.
not sure what MAG called it.....I figured BF3' killcam shared the same purpose. And I preferred MAG's system |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.29 05:12:00 -
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I really like it. I mean, when you shoot someone in the back, it's nice to have them face you. Teabagging is so much more rage inducing when you can see it comming. From a fat bloke who's been running (grim)
I too have no idea what it's called. I think the new title is bang on.
+1 sir |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2012.10.29 05:13:00 -
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I'm sure snipers with profile dampeners will LOVE this idea. |
Mobius Kaethis
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
306
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Posted - 2012.10.29 05:34:00 -
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You realize that it does show you the direction you were shot from right? Its the little red marks that flash when you are hit. If you are killed by that first shot you obviously don't get to know where the shot came from, you're dead after all. Why should a dead clone be able to relay information about their killer's local if they didn't see it first? |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.29 05:43:00 -
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That's why if you get no bleed out there should be no direction change. If you have bleed out time, you should face the direction you were last shot from. Because your suit can relay info you can't. |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.10.29 05:54:00 -
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Look if a sniper manages to find a well hidden spot to kill you from repeatedly, he -deserves- to continue to be able to do so. That said, I can't wait till Wolfman implements the changes to Sniper Rifles so they aren't cheesy faceroll. |
Adeptus Ezekiel
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.10.29 06:12:00 -
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No.
That might be ok in single player games where you can simply save and reload a part you can't get through, but in a MMO would simply screw over other players (in this case snipers) who have made the effort to find a good position.
As noted above, you receive a red flash on your radar when shots/blows are incoming in any case. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.29 09:04:00 -
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Sorry, but this DOESN'T screw snipers. We already get told which direction they're in when the fire. Simply facing that direction while down is no problem. Any good sniper will be 500meters away. This is more about being revived in a "fast and frantic" game. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
915
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:27:00 -
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If you just want to know the direction you get killed from this is already in game - look at the indicator at the bottom of the screen. Re-aiming your cam is not needed, and and is "easy" mode. Learn to observe your surroundings; regularly scan ridge lines; LISTEN for the sniper rounds that miss to know someone has a bead on you; and if you die pay attention to the damage indicator. Keep your head in the game, and you will live longer and be able to take out the snipers. Also, if you do die, look at the overhead map. You will be able to spot snipers in the hills that way to know where the danger zones are - you might even see the one who took you down.
Play smart, don't play easy. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:50:00 -
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Nope no direction, its not needed at all
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Nicol Bolas Planeswalker
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:58:00 -
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As a cowardly, shoot-you-in-the-back (of the head), sniper I do not support this idea. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:37:00 -
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Please reread my last post. This is about facing the guy with a shotgun who just killed you, so that IF you get rezzed, you don't just get insta shot in the back. Snipers have the least the fear.
It's not about a pathetic "revenge kill", it's about being worth reviving in the middle of the action. Heck, make it do snipers don't let you face ten if you're all going to be such wussy snipers :P |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:43:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Please reread my last post. This is about facing the guy with a shotgun who just killed you, so that IF you get rezzed, you don't just get insta shot in the back. Snipers have the least the fear.
It's not about a pathetic "revenge kill", it's about being worth reviving in the middle of the action. Heck, make it do snipers don't let you face ten if you're all going to be such wussy snipers :P
Still no
You should revive the guy after the shotgun dude is dead |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:44:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Please reread my last post. This is about facing the guy with a shotgun who just killed you, so that IF you get rezzed, you don't just get insta shot in the back. Snipers have the least the fear.
It's not about a pathetic "revenge kill", it's about being worth reviving in the middle of the action. Heck, make it do snipers don't let you face ten if you're all going to be such wussy snipers :P Still no You should revive the guy after the shotgun dude is dead
Agreed. Don't rez people into bullets. I hate how blue dots do that in Planetside 2. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:06:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I'm tired of getting shot by snipers or people with heavy machinery that never shows up on my HUD.....especially snipers. When we get killed, it should at least show the direction where it came from. We don't need BF3's killcam but MAG's way of showing the direction in which you got shot from will suffice.
nah, that would eleminate the profile skills entirely.
how about you just look on the mountain for them. thanks to the AWSOME graphics they are pretty easy to see. |
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Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:28:00 -
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What if it only does it if the enemy that shot you was on tac-net (red chevron over them). So a long shoot or shot gunner with enough dampeners to be invisible to sensors remains undetected, only a enemy a team mate sees will cause camera to face.
A more useful camera in bleed out would be to allow turning head to see if you can spot enemy, or if the triage is actually trying to get to you or not. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:34:00 -
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Fine. Might as well remove the injector then. I'll be bleeding out all the time because you get rezzed an stand still. You're a free kill. I let people get rezzed and get another kill and kill the Logi. Basically, rezzing isn't going to be worth it. Everyone who played mag knows it wasn't about 1vs1s. Or 8vs8. It was about your 16vs16 and who could keep their team up. A vital part of that is being useful when you get rezzed. Right now, people are just free kills. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:59:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Fine. Might as well remove the injector then. I'll be bleeding out all the time because you get rezzed an stand still. You're a free kill. I let people get rezzed and get another kill and kill the Logi. Basically, rezzing isn't going to be worth it. Everyone who played mag knows it wasn't about 1vs1s. Or 8vs8. It was about your 16vs16 and who could keep their team up. A vital part of that is being useful when you get rezzed. Right now, people are just free kills.
that needs to be fixed.
or it was fixed, maybe. might of been a glitch.
when i was resed i emediatly started running as i was getting up. don't know if that was a glitch or if it was working as intended.
snipers always kick me out of areas. manus peak is notorius for that crap.
i know where they are, i see some of them with my scanners and others are blantantly out in the open but because i don't have a sniper i cant kill them.
if our squad's sniper was on he would of picked them all off quickly. we later summoned a dropship and proceeded to fire missiles from above. it was humorous. |
Angrim Khan
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2012.10.30 02:29:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I'm tired of getting shot by snipers or people with heavy machinery that never shows up on my HUD.....especially snipers. When we get killed, it should at least show the direction where it came from. We don't need BF3's killcam but MAG's way of showing the direction in which you got shot from will suffice. nah, that would eleminate the profile skills entirely. how about you just look on the mountain for them. thanks to the AWSOME graphics they are pretty easy to see.
Sadly true. Look at distant, distant hill, and its nice blue-grey colours. Notice that really obvious black dot? Thats the enemy 
Hopefully CCP fix this with the next build. Its pretty funny wiping out counter snipers that think they are being incredibly clever, but really its just too easy. Not much good for snipers either to be honest. |
Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.10.30 06:20:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Please reread my last post. This is about facing the guy with a shotgun who just killed you, so that IF you get rezzed, you don't just get insta shot in the back. Snipers have the least the fear.
It's not about a pathetic "revenge kill", it's about being worth reviving in the middle of the action. Heck, make it do snipers don't let you face ten if you're all going to be such wussy snipers :P Please reread the OP. He was specifically complaining about snipers. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:57:00 -
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This mechanic DOESN'T only effect snipers regardless of the OP. |
Adeptus Ezekiel
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.10.30 11:15:00 -
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If you are dead, how can you know what direction a shot came from 
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:19:00 -
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Because you have "instant transfer of consciousness, even at the moment of death." Our clones would simply remember where they were shot. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:51:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Because you have "instant transfer of consciousness, even at the moment of death." Our clones would simply remember where they were shot.
You remember only the pain. |
Adeptus Ezekiel
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:58:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Because you have "instant transfer of consciousness, even at the moment of death." Our clones would simply remember where they were shot.
Thats pushing the whole concept more than a little, even assuming a minute by minute 'backup' for want of a better word. |
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