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Ops Fox
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
197
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Posted - 2012.10.28 05:32:00 -
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was playing and got killed but by a tac funny thing was though there was no change in pace of fire or anything it looked alot like full auto on a tac, or you know guy with a normal gun took out 99% of my health and a tac did that 1%. but is there a controller or cheat that lets a gun that is simi automatic go full auto? |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.10.28 05:36:00 -
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There are several players using a modded controller that allows them to fire the TAR super fast. A different thread CCP claims that the shots are all serverside, but I just think that was knee jerk and the guy didn't know what he/she was talking about. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.28 05:39:00 -
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Well, here's a locked thread about it... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42862&find=unread
Now, I'm thinking that it's not uncommon for people to have "rapid pads" as there are YouTube guides. It's simple, easy and cheap. I wonder if CCP can actually tell from their end. I assume they can. But you know what they say about assumption. |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
197
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Posted - 2012.10.28 05:48:00 -
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where can i get one |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.28 06:16:00 -
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The best fix is to lower the tac's cyclic rate of fire to what a person can with practice pull the trigger, with a buffer since a real person will start faster then slow a little. Then the modded controller will just compensate for below average ability, not give super powers. The fire rate of breach on full auto is well with in human ability, make the tac a little faster then the breach, instead of faster then the standard. |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.28 06:25:00 -
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I can fire that thing faster than the normal ar with ky normal fingers. Go play banjo tootie to practice. That and Mario party |
Shadows Maker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.10.28 14:17:00 -
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3rd party mods for noobs |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.10.28 15:33:00 -
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I used the tactical last night,and I can say that it is back to it's single shot function,but that doesn't meant that people aren't using rapid fire,or modded controllers. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.10.28 16:39:00 -
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I just started using one yesterday, and it's still single shot.
As people are saying- modded controllers. |
Sir Shoot-a-lot
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.10.28 17:02:00 -
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Even if ppl has modded controllers, how could it help since the rifle has a fixed delay between shots? No matter how fast you press the trigger you have to wait, or I'm missing something? |
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Conraire
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.10.28 17:03:00 -
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If you know who they are just report em for EULA breach. I've seen a few doing that too even since the fix. Reality is the tac needs its cyclic rate lowered down quite a bit. That way they can actually balance the rest of the ARs around it's damage. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.10.28 17:07:00 -
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idk about everyone else but i can spam the holy kitten out of R1. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2012.10.28 17:07:00 -
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Sir Shoot-a-lot wrote:Even if ppl has modded controllers, how could it help since the rifle has a fixed delay between shots? No matter how fast you press the trigger you have to wait, or I'm missing something? It can fire about 800 rounds per minute, which is about 13 a second. If the highest anyone can fire via regular means is like 10 rounds a second, but a turbo pad can manage all 13 a second, then a turbo pad obviously help.
I use a tactical myself, but I haven't tested it, so I don't know how many I can fire a second.
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Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.10.28 17:36:00 -
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CCP claims that it has a fixed delay. No one has been able to prove that it works, as CCP won't say what the delay is. Basically, the delay is where you can shoot faster than a regular AR with a single shot AR. |
Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2012.10.28 17:43:00 -
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needs fixing CCP. |
Sir Shoot-a-lot
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.10.28 17:45:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Sir Shoot-a-lot wrote:Even if ppl has modded controllers, how could it help since the rifle has a fixed delay between shots? No matter how fast you press the trigger you have to wait, or I'm missing something? It can fire about 800 rounds per minute, which is about 13 a second. If the highest anyone can fire via regular means is like 10 rounds a second, but a turbo pad can manage all 13 a second, then a turbo pad obviously help. I use a tactical myself, but I haven't tested it, so I don't know how many I can fire a second.
Oh nice I didn't knew that! |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.28 18:00:00 -
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The highest anybody can do is around 20 a second, but the people that can are very rare. Paintball markers gravity feed at about 8 a second, people pay for power loaders to semi-auto at 10-12 for most people. So, most people would be able to semi-auto it faster then the breach's full auto, a few people on planet could get near hmg fire rate but probably will never play the game.
If it's a very fast finger or modded controller, the cyclic is to high for the damage. In the 400-600per minute range would be better then almost 800. If the rof/damage is balanced better it won't really matter if it's fast finger or modded controller. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.28 18:04:00 -
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As a side thought, how about a firing range that could give stats like how elapsed time since start of firing, then people would know there trigger speed with tac. This could help give feedback on a good speed to set the tac's cyclic fire rate. |
DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2012.10.28 18:12:00 -
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ok so people suck at this game so their cheating.... modded anything is for anyone with no skill unless its a cool texture pack you designed yourself or some cool new model or skin...
anything that gives anyone an advantage including giving them smaller hitboxes, glitching into rocks (ie snipers) using modded controllers, consoles and speedups, glitches, complex hacks, baby hacks or anything else, technically will not be allowed when the main game launches, though for a free to play game its not going to have as much monitoring at first as say BF3 or Cod3 which both use more than just disc based security.
CCP will probably use a combination of HD secuirty Patches and fixes nulling all modded consoles, modded controllers, hacks etc and Server side shot counters, hitbox monitors, map relevance area monitors and anything that recognizes if your going outside of the map or clipping through things.
Might cause issues but, Oh well, wouldnt be suprised if they coded their servers to run gamespy. C: and than build a game exclusive patch for gamespy, thus nulling things even more 8D |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.10.28 18:45:00 -
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DarkShadowFox wrote:ok so people suck at this game so their cheating.... modded anything is for anyone with no skill unless its a cool texture pack you designed yourself or some cool new model or skin...
anything that gives anyone an advantage including giving them smaller hitboxes, glitching into rocks (ie snipers) using modded controllers, consoles and speedups, glitches, complex hacks, baby hacks or anything else, technically will not be allowed when the main game launches, though for a free to play game its not going to have as much monitoring at first as say BF3 or Cod3 which both use more than just disc based security.
The same thing could be said about aim assist too. |
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xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.28 18:59:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:was playing and got killed but by a tac funny thing was though there was no change in pace of fire or anything it looked alot like full auto on a tac, or you know guy with a normal gun took out 99% of my health and a tac did that 1%. but is there a controller or cheat that lets a gun that is simi automatic go full auto?
maybe if you didn't stand still like a dumbass and crouch you wouldn't be getting killed. After watching you play everything you say is irrelevant. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.28 19:19:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:Ops Fox wrote:was playing and got killed but by a tac funny thing was though there was no change in pace of fire or anything it looked alot like full auto on a tac, or you know guy with a normal gun took out 99% of my health and a tac did that 1%. but is there a controller or cheat that lets a gun that is simi automatic go full auto? maybe if you didn't stand still like a dumbass and crouch you wouldn't be getting killed. After watching you play everything you say is irrelevant.
Oh my such a comment comming from you... How utterly original, and insightful. Not. Though only one whom is irrelevent is you, and whatever you post. I hear the MAG forums miss you. I think that is where you belong with the rest of the festering rot, and bloated decaying egos. |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.28 20:13:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:Ops Fox wrote:was playing and got killed but by a tac funny thing was though there was no change in pace of fire or anything it looked alot like full auto on a tac, or you know guy with a normal gun took out 99% of my health and a tac did that 1%. but is there a controller or cheat that lets a gun that is simi automatic go full auto? maybe if you didn't stand still like a dumbass and crouch you wouldn't be getting killed. After watching you play everything you say is irrelevant. Oh my such a comment comming from you... How utterly original, and insightful. Not. Though only one whom is irrelevent is you, and whatever you post. I hear the MAG forums miss you. I think that is where you belong with the rest of the festering rot, and bloated decaying egos.
Zion might as well be an NPC corp with the way you guys play. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.28 20:42:00 -
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You mad? Yeah.. You mad.
No, but serioulsy you could never offend me. I have zero respect for you, and your word is meaningless to me.
Try again? Ha-ha. Keep-a-knockin'! |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.28 20:49:00 -
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Rorek was BHD Jump. Hence the butthurt. I think we can agree that rapid fire controllers are cheating. |
DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2012.10.28 21:56:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:DarkShadowFox wrote:ok so people suck at this game so their cheating.... modded anything is for anyone with no skill unless its a cool texture pack you designed yourself or some cool new model or skin...
anything that gives anyone an advantage including giving them smaller hitboxes, glitching into rocks (ie snipers) using modded controllers, consoles and speedups, glitches, complex hacks, baby hacks or anything else, technically will not be allowed when the main game launches, though for a free to play game its not going to have as much monitoring at first as say BF3 or Cod3 which both use more than just disc based security. The same thing could be said about aim assist too.
thanks for not quoting my gamespy half of it. |
BLENDEDDAVE
WARRIORS 1NC
52
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Posted - 2012.10.28 22:33:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Rorek was BHD Jump. Hence the butthurt. I think we can agree that rapid fire controllers are cheating.
when this was gun was broke it was ok but no god maker it's no good at CQC just a gun. Good players need not worry if you like rapid fire get a HMG |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.10.29 00:04:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Rorek was BHD Jump. Hence the butthurt. I think we can agree that rapid fire controllers are cheating.
Yeah. I used to play with, Plymco_Pilgrim, in MAG. A couple of years ago, and I haven't played with or for BHD since I quit MAG. Infact, Plymco_Pilgrim, took me off once I quit. Which I had no problem with since I wasn't really BHD. I just played with them since I knew him, and we used to play Warhawk. Warhawkers for life unfortunetly.
"I wish I knew how to quit you!" -- What every Warhawker has said for the past five years.
No, but seriously I was only loosely affiliated a couple of years ago with BHD. I do not understand the butt hurt though from him. Not that I care to be honest.
On topic though -- It was patched and fixed. It being the TAR of course. Just like in Warhawk though, you can make it look like an automatic, but it is nonetheless a semi-auto. |
Nicol Bolas Planeswalker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.29 00:32:00 -
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How many shots were being squeezed off the tac? I can easily abuse R1 for 8 or 9/sec. I know people who can do a lot better than this. That solid stream of death is just quick fingers. |
BLENDEDDAVE
WARRIORS 1NC
52
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Posted - 2012.10.29 00:43:00 -
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i was killed today wtf gdbs fya ffs get some nuts |
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