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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.28 00:41:00 -
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40 kills seems to be the new "100 kill" mark......which then makes 14 kills the new grim reaper and 12 deaths the new purple heart lol. |
Cloudy Zan
107
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Posted - 2012.10.28 00:42:00 -
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LOLOLOLOLOL no |
Ghost-33
ShootBreakStab
108
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Posted - 2012.10.28 00:44:00 -
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wut? |
Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming
143
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Posted - 2012.10.28 00:49:00 -
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Had a clan member go 67-0 |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.10.28 00:50:00 -
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Cloudy Zan wrote:LOLOLOLOLOL no
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.28 00:53:00 -
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101-0 is the best any player is our corp has done this build. So no. I'd say 100 is still 100. |
Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming
143
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Posted - 2012.10.28 00:55:00 -
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The new 100 is either 80 or 120, depending on what mode you play |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.28 00:57:00 -
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Ohh, ok....this is my first build. And I haven't seen anything higher than a 45. And that was all on the ground.
In this build, I haven't seen too many 40s and if I did they were all dropship kills |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.28 01:01:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ohh, ok....this is my first build. And I haven't seen anything higher than a 45. And that was all on the ground.
In this build, I haven't seen too many 40s and if I did they were all dropship kills
Confirming I can easily go over 40 in a tank |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.28 01:20:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ohh, ok....this is my first build. And I haven't seen anything higher than a 45. And that was all on the ground.
In this build, I haven't seen too many 40s and if I did they were all dropship kills Confirming I can easily go over 40 in a tank
Well that's exactly my point....you're in a tank.
But in MAG, 100 kills wasn't rarely seen. Players were getting them almost every game. Its the 140 kill games and higher that was noticeable. If you had 150 kills in MAG, you'd get the same reaction if you saw someone get 100 in Dust. Because kill counts are relatively low in dust. If you get 30 kills, that's a decent game. Not to mention, noone dies 30 times in dust. But if you die, let's say 15 times, you can consider that a bad game. |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.28 01:58:00 -
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MAG had 128 players with infinite lives. DUST has 150 lives for each side. Of course 100+ games are rare, it means 31/32 players are terribad, and the 1 guy going 100 is amazing. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.28 02:17:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:MAG had 128 players with infinite lives. DUST has 150 lives for each side. Of course 100+ games are rare, it means 31/32 players are terribad, and the 1 guy going 100 is amazing.
Which is why I said 40 is the new 100 :) |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.28 02:19:00 -
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Went 42 o foot, 37 in DS, 30 or something in tank this build. Never seen anyone go over 50.. But that's on the asia server soo.. |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.10.28 07:42:00 -
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for what it's worth, the people saying they've seen 100+ kill games in dust are probably referring to a couple builds ago when the attackers could use a disposable militia dropship to get up to a rooftop, call in a marauder onto that rooftop, and spawncamp the defenders over the red line.
this was also before they randomized the spawns, so if their team held the objectives, the ENTIRE enemy team had no choice but to spawn on exactly 1 square foot of real estate.
so they'd literally just sit there and pummel that one spot with a large missile turret from the skies, instakilling just about everything... oh and this was before they nerfed the missile turrets too. and the marauders had a 1.5X multiplier for all turrets...
it was just about the ******-est thing i've ever seen. i had 1 300k skillpoint game just sitting in the secondary seat and racking up assists... not even shooting because, why bother at that point? |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.28 08:09:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:for what it's worth, the people saying they've seen 100+ kill games in dust are probably referring to a couple builds ago when the attackers could use a disposable militia dropship to get up to a rooftop, call in a marauder onto that rooftop, and spawncamp the defenders over the red line.
this was also before they randomized the spawns, so if their team held the objectives, the ENTIRE enemy team had no choice but to spawn on exactly 1 square foot of real estate.
so they'd literally just sit there and pummel that one spot with a large missile turret from the skies, instakilling just about everything... oh and this was before they nerfed the missile turrets too. and the marauders had a 1.5X multiplier for all turrets...
it was just about the ******-est thing i've ever seen. i had 1 300k skillpoint game just sitting in the secondary seat and racking up assists... not even shooting because, why bother at that point?
Yeah i was in that build for abit, just trying to run for cover every time lol... |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.28 11:11:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:for what it's worth, the people saying they've seen 100+ kill games in dust are probably referring to a couple builds ago when the attackers could use a disposable militia dropship to get up to a rooftop, call in a marauder onto that rooftop, and spawncamp the defenders over the red line.
this was also before they randomized the spawns, so if their team held the objectives, the ENTIRE enemy team had no choice but to spawn on exactly 1 square foot of real estate.
so they'd literally just sit there and pummel that one spot with a large missile turret from the skies, instakilling just about everything... oh and this was before they nerfed the missile turrets too. and the marauders had a 1.5X multiplier for all turrets...
it was just about the ******-est thing i've ever seen. i had 1 300k skillpoint game just sitting in the secondary seat and racking up assists... not even shooting because, why bother at that point?
Right....and mostly, when someone hits 40 (that I've seen in this build) is because they're up in the dropship smoking everything that moves on the ground. Anyone that just picked up the game can get 40 kills from a dropship turret. |
Traky78
What The French
115
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Posted - 2012.10.28 12:23:00 -
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Try to do 100 kills on the ground....... With a weapon...
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.10.28 14:07:00 -
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Traky78 wrote:Try to do 100 kills on the ground....... With a weapon...
Why would I want to do that?
A tank or dropship is much better for the job imo. |
HECATONCHIRES BRIAREOS
Doomheim
0
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Posted - 2012.10.28 14:08:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:40 kills seems to be the new "100 kill" mark......which then makes 14 kills the new grim reaper and 12 deaths the new purple heart lol.
I would agree with that.Wait on second thought.Well if it was like bf3.How you got different ribbons...if you got 14 kills with your rifle/side arm and grenades only.Then yeah I could agree with that. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.10.28 14:18:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ohh, ok....this is my first build. And I haven't seen anything higher than a 45. And that was all on the ground.
In this build, I haven't seen too many 40s and if I did they were all dropship kills Confirming I can easily go over 40 in a tank Well that's exactly my point....you're in a tank. But in MAG, 100 kills wasn't rarely seen. Players were getting them almost every game. Its the 140 kill games and higher that was noticeable. If you had 150 kills in MAG, you'd get the same reaction if you saw someone get 100 in Dust. Because kill counts are relatively low in dust. If you get 30 kills, that's a decent game. Not to mention, noone dies 30 times in dust. But if you die, let's say 15 times, you can consider that a bad game.
yea when all the good ppl left and the game was left to the diehards/fanboys who didnt move on. 100 kills was rarely seen in MAG prime with alot of good ppl and clans playin on each faction
checked back MAG forums a few months ago and ppl who couldnt even get grims consistently back then were gettin 100 kill games easy.... |
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Ghost-33
ShootBreakStab
108
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Posted - 2012.10.28 16:20:00 -
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I actually saw someone hacking an objective once! That guy has to be the best player I have ever seen. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.28 16:29:00 -
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I have seen people with 30 deaths in old builds. Highest I ever had was around 21, not bad game, just result of killing hav by jumping on it with militia suit throwing grenades and firing smg into turret. This no longer works, but in e3 I could kill a few tanks and get 20 deaths and 12 kills plus a few hav. Not a bad game but looks like it by kill/death since hav kills don't show up. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.28 19:15:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES BRIAREOS wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:40 kills seems to be the new "100 kill" mark......which then makes 14 kills the new grim reaper and 12 deaths the new purple heart lol. I would agree with that.Wait on second thought.Well if it was like bf3.How you got different ribbons...if you got 14 kills with your rifle/side arm and grenades only.Then yeah I could agree with that.
Well, it's proportion:
35/100 = x/40 for grim reaper 30/100 = x/40 for purple heart |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.10.28 19:20:00 -
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Ghost-33 wrote:I actually saw someone hacking an objective once! That guy has to be the best player I have ever seen.
Hehehe...this. Kills mean nothing anymore, it's all WP, I could give less of a **** if you got 150 kills and depleted the enemy's reserves all by yourself, if I got more WP than you by playing logistics and playing the objectives, then I am better than you. |
frfqq
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2012.10.28 19:52:00 -
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Kill-counts in MAG and Dust aren't comparable.
In MAG, a great domination player could consistently put up 100 kill games regardless of the map/PMC he was playing on. You're ability to put up high kill-counts was based mostly on skill. The difficulty level of putting up a 100 kill game, no matter how bad your team or the enemy team was, didn't fluctuate a lot, because the sheer number of players in a way balanced out the good players/exploit users with the randoms and kept the general skill level the same...
In Dust, a great player can go 15-1 or 80-3. You can't reliable expect a good player to put up a high kill-count because of how unpredictable this game is. The difficulty level of this game fluctuates considerably based on small factors, such as whether anyone is camping in vehicles, how many players are sniping from their spawn, or whether the enemy team has even 1 or 2 good players. Players can manipulate the scoreboard by exploiting vehicles and automatically going into easy-mode. A 100 kill game here isn't really a showcase of skill. It just means a decent player or a vehicle exploiter got lucky and was put up against a team of idiots who weren't sniping, weren't using vehicles, and kept respawning at the same spawn point over-and-over.
MAG was like 90% skill, 10% luck. Dust is like 30% skill, 70% luck... |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.10.28 23:10:00 -
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frfqq wrote: MAG was like 90% skill, 10% luck. Dust is like 30% skill, 70% luck...
If by luck you mean lag,then MAG was 33% skill and 33% Lag,and 33% playing on SVER .
Dust seems to be about 25% skill,50% gear/equipment,25% Lag.
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ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
391
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Posted - 2012.10.28 23:22:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:frfqq wrote: MAG was like 90% skill, 10% luck. Dust is like 30% skill, 70% luck...
If by luck you mean lag,then MAG was 33% skill and 33% Lag,and 33% playing on SVER . Dust seems to be about 25% skill,50% gear/equipment,25% Lag.
Congratulations on posting a sensible educated post. +1 |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.28 23:29:00 -
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MAG kills had more to do with your ping to the server relative to your enemy, and whoever had the lower ping with the faster upload speed, and basic good aim, usually got the kill....
80% latency related, 15% luck, 5% skill....
But it still was the best FPS i played on console... |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
391
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Posted - 2012.10.28 23:55:00 -
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Brahma El Indio wrote:MAG kills had more to do with your ping to the server relative to your enemy, and whoever had the lower ping with the faster upload speed, and basic good aim, usually got the kill....
80% latency related, 15% luck, 5% skill....
But it still was the best FPS i played on console...
Been back on for the last week, and even though I'm in Sweden and there's just one server in America, MAG with all these aforementioned problems is still 1000x better than whatever this is supposed to be. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.29 00:12:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Ghost-33 wrote:I actually saw someone hacking an objective once! That guy has to be the best player I have ever seen. Hehehe...this. Kills mean nothing anymore, it's all WP, I could give less of a **** if you got 150 kills and depleted the enemy's reserves all by yourself, if I got more WP than you by playing logistics and playing the objectives, then I am better than you.
The same argument was said in MAG. Wps are important but kills mean something as well. Not to mention, you collect wps when you kill someone.
Thing is, you have to kill on your way to the objective to cap it. You can't rez or repair your way there.....or at least your entire team can't. If one depletes the clones all by himself, he's actually better lol. Cause he, literally, single-handedly won the game by himself. I know you were making a point by exxagerating but I had to do the same to make a different point. |
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HECATONCHIRES COTTUS
Doomheim
14
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Posted - 2012.11.14 04:03:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Ghost-33 wrote:I actually saw someone hacking an objective once! That guy has to be the best player I have ever seen. Hehehe...this. Kills mean nothing anymore, it's all WP, I could give less of a **** if you got 150 kills and depleted the enemy's reserves all by yourself, if I got more WP than you by playing logistics and playing the objectives, then I am better than you. The same argument was said in MAG. Wps are important but kills mean something as well. Not to mention, you collect wps when you kill someone. Thing is, you have to kill on your way to the objective to cap it. You can't rez or repair your way there.....or at least your entire team can't. If one depletes the clones all by himself, he's actually better lol. Cause he, literally, single-handedly won the game by himself. I know you were making a point by exxagerating but I had to do the same to make a different point.
no but once there healing /repairing is how you hold the objective. |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
70
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Posted - 2012.11.14 04:23:00 -
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gotta get those grimz over hours yo. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
391
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Posted - 2012.11.14 04:57:00 -
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Funny now that we've all been dumped together because player count is so low.
Those players that thought they were hot **** on MAG aren't looking so hot now it's not only one server in the USA that was right on their doorstep.
Maybe why this beta has such high use on modded controllers, more so than MAG even.
Hard not being as good as you thought you were eh boys. |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
442
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Posted - 2012.11.14 10:07:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Funny now that we've all been dumped together because player count is so low. Those players that thought they were hot **** on MAG aren't looking so hot now it's not only one server in the USA that was right on their doorstep. Maybe why this beta has such high use on modded controllers, more so than MAG even. Hard not being as good as you thought you were eh boys.
+1
This is so very true. I got fed up with these (mostly) American kids, especially on SVER talking trash over proxy each time they killed me, not realizing that I got killed even before they appeared on my screen. Not to mention the guys I sometimes played with from a certain "grims over hours" clan, take them out of sabo and suddenly my score (and KDR) got a lot better than theirs, the ones that didn't rage quit that is...
I play against many of the so called elites in MAG now and usually take them down with ease. With no latency advantage and with a somewhat level playingfield (AKA no Thamsen) many now rely on dropship and tanks, or even worse, a modded controller and a Codewish, to get the upper hand. Its pathetic really. |
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