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Posted - 2012.10.28 14:01:00 -
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Illuminaughty-696 wrote:3. As to heavier suits, go for it, but scouts make the best snipers. You might be able to survive a shot as a heavier suit, but you'll be much easier to find. It's all in play style. As a scout suit, you have to understand that mobility = life. Find a good spot you can stay in it, but it's better to move on every so often. Good players know where the best sniper spots are and keep an eye on them to kill those snipers that choose to occupy them.
This is almost entirely wrong. Scout suits are the worst suit, possibly second worst counting solo heavy snipers. Lower signature profile is not anything resembling enough of an advantage to compensate for the fact that you will die in one hit to basically any enemy sniper. Relying on the good fortune to never be targeted by any enemies will not get you far. And that's to say nothing of the fewer high slots and lower PG/CPU.
Moving around a lot exposes you more and will thus lead to more deaths.
But, to be fair, this game's **** hit detection seems to manifest more against people using scout suits. So for the time being anyway (hopefully) you will evade death through bad programming sometimes. So I guess there's that advantage. |
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Posted - 2012.10.30 18:51:00 -
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Illuminaughty-696 wrote:You'll note I said later in the post it comes down to preference, but I stand by scouts being the best snipers.
You are objectively wrong and should not give advice. There is essentially no reason to ever snipe in a scout suit. You will die more and get fewer kills. You are trading many advantages of other suits for an essentially worthless bonus to signature radius. Preference doesn't factor into it. |
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Posted - 2012.10.31 02:02:00 -
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When you're moving, you aren't sniping. If you're running around all the time, you really ought not to presume to question the efficacy of more stationary snipers. Between your unnecessary movement and your inevitable deaths due to regularly exposing yourself and being in a suit enemy snipers will one-shot-kill, you're in no position to assert yourself as the valuable sniper on the team. |
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Posted - 2012.11.07 17:53:00 -
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If you bought the Merc Pack at a certain time you got "MAG tribute" suits, including an assault suit that was a bit better than a standard assault type 1 suit. It's a good choice for sniping. |
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Posted - 2012.11.08 00:40:00 -
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Fargen Icehole wrote:I'll be the first to say, I'm a decent sniper... but by NO means would I call myself a good sniper. That said, I can tell you from my personal experience, and from a buddy who does snipe a lot (and is a good one) that mobility is necessary, quite often.
I've never found this to be the case, and can make a few points about why it's not correct to say that moving around a lot is better than being stationary:
First, when you move you expose yourself to enemy snipers. If they can aim you'll potentially get killed. At best you'll simply expose your location and let enemy snipers line you up for when you start trying to snipe too.
Second, nano hives are limited and you can't pick them up. Leaving nano hives lying around would be a bit of a waste and require you to find a depot fairly often to reload your fit and get more ammo/hives to keep sniping. This plays into the first point, as people often die at depots to enemy snipers, and also plays into the third point. Which is...
When you're moving, you aren't sniping. The more time you spend running around like a goofball, the less you're sniping. There are allies being killed and points being captured you could have done something about if you weren't wandering around the map. You can't be an effective sniper if you spend more time moving than you do sniping.
In the end, the best strategy really is to find an effective vantage point and snipe until the battle moves elsewhere, or it becomes too dangerous to keep sniping there, or whatever. If you get a good location, you will be safe, you'll have a clear view of a high-traffic area and ideally at least one objective, and you'll be able to lay down a hive and keep sniping all game. If your position is good, you won't need to move to avoid enemy snipers, because they won't be able to engage you, and enemy infantry won't be able to reach you, either, because they'd have to run through your entire team and all your side's snipers to get in range of you.
Some snipers like to run around. That's cool, knock yourself out if you find it more enjoyable than camping. But, at least in my experience, I've never done anything like as well running around as I have being stationary. I am not kidding when I write that being a sniper in Dust is the safest, most powerful, and least demanding way of playing the game. |
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Posted - 2012.11.08 00:42:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Heavy Snipers are a possibility as well, but they're slow, so unless you're REALLY certain that the combat will revolve around a specific location or area on the map, or bring transport of some kind, Heavies aren't likely to be the best option.
The reason you don't use heavy suits is because they have no equipment slot, so you'll run out of ammo very quickly and have to waddle over to a supply depot. The mobility thing is not a big issue, it's the fact that you can't resupply yourself that makes it a deal-breaker. On the other hand, if you're sniping in tandem they're probably a good suit, because you are so durable you'll rarely if ever die to enemy snipers. Probably worth the trade-off in high slots. |
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