Yes.

So I got a few solid hours of play in tonight and went lone wolf for the most part. Playing with randoms made me realize that unless your part of a corp its a HUGE disadvantage. (Normally I squad up with corp mates or other apac people)

While I held my own against the waves of southern legion troops (had fun shooting you southern legion boys it was uhhh challenging to say the least...). l was going black ops and capping the back CRU's and objectives having a ball but I don't think the rest of the randoms on my team were having fun.

I enjoy fighting skilled players (and dying a lot) but I can't help but feel sorry for the randoms that go 1/10 in a round. I mean if we keep this up will it push the more casual player away? What is going to happen to our player base if the randoms all end up rage quitting?

I dont know the answer but I'm just worried that there will be no cannon fodder for when I want to settle down for a night of shooting people in the face....

We can't stop them from rage quitting. dumbing down the game to make it more accessible is counterproductive. Games should have challenges if not then what is the point to play?

So I got a few solid hours of play in tonight and went lone wolf for the most part. Playing with randoms made me realize that unless your part of a corp its a HUGE disadvantage. (Normally I squad up with corp mates or other apac people)

While I held my own against the waves of southern legion troops (had fun shooting you southern legion boys it was uhhh challenging to say the least...). l was going black ops and capping the back CRU's and objectives having a ball but I don't think the rest of the randoms on my team were having fun.

I enjoy fighting skilled players (and dying a lot) but I can't help but feel sorry for the randoms that go 1/10 in a round. I mean if we keep this up will it push the more casual player away? What is going to happen to our player base if the randoms all end up rage quitting?

I dont know the answer but I'm just worried that there will be no cannon fodder for when I want to settle down for a night of shooting people in the face....

A quick match system where players are pitted against others of equal skill should be present on release. CCP are forcing us to play quick match and gather information. It can't be implemented atm because of the lack of player numbers.

Quick match with zero grouping. That'd be a 100% foolproof. I like it.

We are able to group with the current quickmatch system?

Yeah its crap personally i like to log on and join a battle shoot people, but these days its squad up or die, the casual player is screwed.

This is one of the reasons SOA members won't be staying on with the legion once the tournament is over, who would we play outside of corp battles?

Being apart of this large coalition and completely crushing randoms has sapped the joy out of the game for me, its not the fault of the large group but the battle finder that stupidly allocates squads in random games, I've seen it go from 1 corp squad of 4 people vs 5 randoms to two corp squads vs 5 and the rest is history.

simple solution:
add a mercenary playlist like on COD. No Corps/Clans/Squads. Simple sayd a playlist that you can enter solo without a squad up. And ive never trust randoms on public matches cause they are all uncapable to do something good. here and there you find a guy reviving his team but thats it.

We can't stop them from rage quitting. dumbing down the game to make it more accessible is counterproductive. Games should have challenges if not then what is the point to play?

Hit n miss

I still choose to solo quite alot tbh and im always in games against 4man groups on both sides or just on 1 side but i have been in games where the randoms beat the 4man groups

A quick match system where players are pitted against others of equal skill should be present on release. CCP are forcing us to play quick match and gather information.

It is an interesting point as I now feel that I 'might' just be good enough to join a corp... though, all the talking on mics is not that appealing to be honest, though I do it in EvE.

I was kinda wondering how much better I would be if I was in a corp. I assume if you don't die you don't lost gear, which means I could 'kit' up a little more, which might get me those few kills per game that just slip away.

Also, I was wondering about how many assists can be on a kill? If it's limitless then running with a corp would also mean far more SP.

Of course... these are all ponderings and hopefully you chaps might know the actual answers.

Regads

Jax

IMHO, matchmaking is not working very well at all. We got put in a game, full squad vs 1 dude. Someone joined the game... On our team!!?!? I mean, we decided to only use melee... But quite honestly I don't think the match making works.

Also it's the nature of large team based games unfortunately. I do think CCP will incentivise getting into a corp, even a newbie corp early on. If they don't (like MAG didn't) then there will be much rage quit.

how about enjoying, relaxing, having fun without pressure?

In an FPS...your in the wrong genre .Nothing about an FPS is supposed to be laid back.

Drinking a couple of beers and sitting back on my lawn chair on top of a mountain with my sniper is pretty relaxing

The challenge will be incentivizing corps to play against other corps, and then leave the pubs for the noobs.

Anyway I'm hoping once they add in low sec and null sec most casual players will hang out in high sec while the dedicated corps will be elsewhere.

These two things. Nubs will have PvE as a fall back (and I hope it's entertaining enough that corps want in on it, too). But, still, if it's literally corps queuing up as a whole against random matches and smaller corps with some randoms . . . yeah. I don't think it will be, however. further, like EVE, I expect CCP wants people to realize that being in an active corp is the ideal way to play this game. It isn't, and shouldn't be required, but it should be both encouraged and hopefully obvious.

OK hear me out people. Maybe if a a team is full of randoms them a computer A.I will set dynamic attack and defend orders based on the battlefield situation as needed. That way the randoms get to fight in a more coherent force and have more fun AND the corps get a more challenging training run.

It would be kinda like a test of tactics for the corps to beat the A.I. Thoughts?

So does anyone else think this is a good idea? I reckon it would work great...

Its an interesting concept. Certainly something like that for high sec (equal to EVE mission running) would be interesting.

I'm actually looking forward to what AI CCP can dig up for us in NPC matches.

IMHO, matchmaking is not working very well at all.

I am one of those randoms for now. I'll join a corp down the road, probably....maybe after release. The fact is, if the game is good, then the casual randoms will stick around. So, as long as the gameplay can match or beat that of the other shooters of the moment, then all will be fine! I'll see you around, don't you worry....I'll be your cannon fodder....

It hasn't been turned on yet. There was a post around here somewhere that said they did not have the number of players and it may be they are still gathering data.

Meanwhile, since beta testers are a hardy and adventuresome bunch, never ones to through a fit or break down in tears when the milk has been spilled and the cookies eaten, and always up for a challenge I have high hopes that we will soldier through these trying times.

This is something that happens in every FPS though. It is not only happening in Dust. Log onto a Cod or BF server. You will see guys moving as a unit, usually using voice communications. They then end up owning the map. Does it keep playing CoD or BF? Nope, they are still the two most popular FPS franchises out there.

Lol, seriosly? In CoD a enemy goes down in 3-4 shots, Bf maybe 6-7- 1 shot if your doing HC mode, so i never really had a issue wiping out whole squads with a clip or 2.. In dust with the strafing and the armour and what not, it times it by 10 if you're vs squads.

And i don't even know how CoD is popular, it has nothing going for it unless you count the campagin.. Maybe zombies..

there are a lot more reasons people have, and will quit this carp. I've not spoken to anyone who has anything positive to say about this beta / game.

there are a lot more reasons people have, and will quit this carp. I've not spoken to anyone who has anything positive to say about this beta / game.

Meanwhile, since beta testers are a hardy and adventuresome bunch, never ones to through a fit or break down in tears when the milk has been spilled and the cookies eaten, and always up for a challenge I have high hopes that we will soldier through these trying times.

maybe brother...I would have to ask Gem cutter if thats how he does it.