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TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:

Free Healing wrote:

TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:

Free Healing wrote:

TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:

I usually ground snipe with my logi, and once I put on some armor plates I could hold my own against a heavy.

By "Ground Snipe" do you mean that you run with a Sniper Rifle? if so that's definately a tactic i've never considered. I buff my suit with Enhanced Shield Extenders since the Armor Plates slow me down and make me sniper fodder.

yes i run behind the pack with my corp. healing them when needed, supplying ammo, laying down uplinks. its really fun.

If you don't mind me asking, how often do you die? And how far away do you stay from your squad? It seems in that case i can see the upside of being farther back to avoid direct contact with the enemy and sniper fire isn't as troublesome since you can fire back. I like to stay as close as possible to my squad, or Blue's if my squad leader doesn't have a mic and doesn't lay down directions, so that i can heal and support them as effectively as possible. So i'm curoius as to the tactics developed by other Logistics. Maybe when it comes down to it, it's just the advantage of being in a Corporation.

i die around 0-3 per game and usually end up around 15+ kills and i stay back at least 50 yards. most of my corp knows where my line of sight is that way when they run into some guy with insane shields they just lure them into the open so I can drop em. playing with random people i just snipe on a hill watching a objective.

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Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:02:00 - [1] - Quote ... Are they valuble assets to a corporation or are logistics players expected to have an Assault suit or Heavy suit in addition to their primary because of how quickly they die and the fact that the Nanite Injector can be used by Assault suits? As it stands we die very quick and don't have much battle prescene, which normally would be a good thing if we were in a group of mixed units. I once played a match where i counted at least 6 other logistics players on my team (not including myself) and we got slaughtered due to the fact that we're pretty squishy compaired to everyone else. Maybe i just need to "Get Better" but that's kinda how i feel. Maybe this doesn't matter much to Corps. or maybe it does. Anyway a response would be great thanks
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 775	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:13:00 - [2] - Quote Pure logi are fine will be fine once CCP restores War Point gains to the Repair Tool (might not be till next build tho) and fixes the War Point awards scaling & amounts for the Nano Hive, Nano Injector and Repair Tool (there were problems even before the farmers caused CCP to remove all WP from the Repper). For more info on the above see the feedback section as there are many threads ;) Mean time develop your Logi skills but if you want to try and keep pace with skill gains this build you'll likely need to find another suit/loadout to run as well. My 0.02 ISK Cross
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:18:00 - [3] - Quote doctor................. m8 the devs are dumbarses tell them to go **** themselves.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 49	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:18:00 - [4] - Quote I usually ground snipe with my logi, and once I put on some armor plates I could hold my own against a heavy.
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:19:00 - [5] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: I usually ground snipe with my logi, and once I put on some armor plates I could hold my own against a heavy. you do all you like devs are still fucktards till i see otherwise thay are fucktards that need to be treated as such.
Osiris Greywolf Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 80	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:20:00 - [6] - Quote I LOVE logistics players, so long as they know what there doing, ie, balanced equipment. In my corp Logistics is ok, and much wanted, but you still need to know how to shoot, and be able to defend yourself. :) if your looking for a corp btw, just give us a shout, like I said, were always looking for specialists!
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:21:00 - [7] - Quote Yeah i greatly look forward to when the WP gain for Repair Tools gets restored. (fingers crossed) It's currently my favorite peice of equipment. What i was asking though was whether or not players that Solely played with Logistics Suits were valuable to a corporation as opposed to a player that switched between an Assault Suit and a Logistics Suit. Lets look at it this way...what's more valuable to someone looking to recruit a Logistics player to their corporation? Option A: Logistics Suit 100% (For the purpose of being the best Logibro they can be.) or Option B: Logistics Suit 30% (For the purpose of being able to adapt to the battle as they wish.) Assault Suit 30% Heavy Suit 30%
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:21:00 - [8] - Quote Osiris Greywolf wrote: I LOVE logistics players, so long as they know what there doing, ie, balanced equipment. In my corp Logistics is ok, and much wanted, but you still need to know how to shoot, and be able to defend yourself. :) if your looking for a corp btw, just give us a shout, like I said, were always looking for specialists! **** you i know who you are, what did you specialise in? exept goon? im here to kill stuff now lets get it on. hur hur. start with closest.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:23:00 - [9] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: I usually ground snipe with my logi, and once I put on some armor plates I could hold my own against a heavy. By "Ground Snipe" do you mean that you run with a Sniper Rifle? if so that's definately a tactic i've never considered. I buff my suit with Enhanced Shield Extenders since the Armor Plates slow me down and make me sniper fodder.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:30:00 - [10] - Quote Osiris Greywolf wrote: I LOVE logistics players, so long as they know what there doing, ie, balanced equipment. In my corp Logistics is ok, and much wanted, but you still need to know how to shoot, and be able to defend yourself. :) if your looking for a corp btw, just give us a shout, like I said, were always looking for specialists! I'd like to say that i am capable but the truth is is honestly don't know. In my opinion, no matter how frusterating it is sometimes, a Logistics player is only as good as the team he supports. you know what i mean?

TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 49	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:37:00 - [11] - Quote Free Healing wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: I usually ground snipe with my logi, and once I put on some armor plates I could hold my own against a heavy. By "Ground Snipe" do you mean that you run with a Sniper Rifle? if so that's definately a tactic i've never considered. I buff my suit with Enhanced Shield Extenders since the Armor Plates slow me down and make me sniper fodder. yes i run behind the pack with my corp. healing them when needed, supplying ammo, laying down uplinks. its really fun.
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:43:00 - [12] - Quote Logistic will be necessity once it's fully upgraded for Uplinks, Repair Tool, Nanohives, Medics. I remember having all of those on the early beta. Now with the skill cap, It will take me a long time. I have bigger problems than being a medic and that's to deal with Dropships and Tanks. My focus now is to level up my Forge Gun and Heavy Suit.
VADOL II Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 49	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:54:00 - [13] - Quote I run a pure Logistics fit. All of my skills are geared toward the logistics fit. Of course I have a couple points in teh basics of weapon combat (weaponry 3, Mass Driver 3, AR 2, each of the light weapon skills to 2), but those are just to get the biggest bang for the SP. I never have trouble getting my corp to pick me up, and Heavy squads love me. I run 2x shield extender, 1x plate, 1x rep, then the rep/hive/injector or rep/inject/link depending on need. The only other suit I have is a slight change to the starter AR AV suit. Edit: I forgot to mention the best armor mod for a Logi, is the Heavy he is hiding behind. There is no shame in using those fat suits as a mobile wall to place between yourself and incoming tracers.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:55:00 - [14] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: Free Healing wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: I usually ground snipe with my logi, and once I put on some armor plates I could hold my own against a heavy. By "Ground Snipe" do you mean that you run with a Sniper Rifle? if so that's definately a tactic i've never considered. I buff my suit with Enhanced Shield Extenders since the Armor Plates slow me down and make me sniper fodder. yes i run behind the pack with my corp. healing them when needed, supplying ammo, laying down uplinks. its really fun. If you don't mind me asking, how often do you die? And how far away do you stay from your squad? It seems in that case i can see the upside of being farther back to avoid direct contact with the enemy and sniper fire isn't as troublesome since you can fire back. I like to stay as close as possible to my squad, or Blue's if my squad leader doesn't have a mic and doesn't lay down directions, so that i can heal and support them as effectively as possible. So i'm curoius as to the tactics developed by other Logistics. Maybe when it comes down to it, it's just the advantage of being in a Corporation.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.10.24 22:59:00 - [15] - Quote The answer is - sometimes. Personally, I think the logi should be the BEST gun in the team, since to save everyone else, they have to survive. But if they are really good at staying alive without being a good shot, it could work out for them.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:01:00 - [16] - Quote VADOL II wrote: I run a pure Logistics fit. All of my skills are geared toward the logistics fit. Of course I have a couple points in teh basics of weapon combat (weaponry 3, Mass Driver 3, AR 2, each of the light weapon skills to 2), but those are just to get the biggest bang for the SP. I never have trouble getting my corp to pick me up, and Heavy squads love me. I run 2x shield extender, 1x plate, 1x rep, then the rep/hive/injector or rep/inject/link depending on need. The only other suit I have is a slight change to the starter AR AV suit. I gather you use the Mass Driver, and a Type 1 Suit? I couldn't get the Mass Driver to work for me and i Currently use: Type 1 Suit GEK-38 (assault rifle) 2 Enhanced ShEx Militia Armor Rep. (BPO) Militia PG Ex.(BPO) Militia Nanite Injector (BPO) Millitia Repair Tool (BPO) Nanohive As it stands with how wonky ISK is i was thinking of switching to a normal Assault Rifle instead of the GEK cuz kills arn't my main focus and everytime i die i have to pay 17K for the GEK alone.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 49	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:02:00 - [17] - Quote Free Healing wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: Free Healing wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: I usually ground snipe with my logi, and once I put on some armor plates I could hold my own against a heavy. By "Ground Snipe" do you mean that you run with a Sniper Rifle? if so that's definately a tactic i've never considered. I buff my suit with Enhanced Shield Extenders since the Armor Plates slow me down and make me sniper fodder. yes i run behind the pack with my corp. healing them when needed, supplying ammo, laying down uplinks. its really fun. If you don't mind me asking, how often do you die? And how far away do you stay from your squad? It seems in that case i can see the upside of being farther back to avoid direct contact with the enemy and sniper fire isn't as troublesome since you can fire back. I like to stay as close as possible to my squad, or Blue's if my squad leader doesn't have a mic and doesn't lay down directions, so that i can heal and support them as effectively as possible. So i'm curoius as to the tactics developed by other Logistics. Maybe when it comes down to it, it's just the advantage of being in a Corporation. i die around 0-3 per game and usually end up around 15+ kills and i stay back at least 50 yards. most of my corp knows where my line of sight is that way when they run into some guy with insane shields they just lure them into the open so I can drop em. playing with random people i just snipe on a hill watching a objective.
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:02:00 - [18] - Quote why the ** does this need to exist, oh i get it dumb ** devs.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:07:00 - [19] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: The answer is - sometimes. Personally, I think the logi should be the BEST gun in the team, since to save everyone else, they have to survive. But if they are really good at staying alive without being a good shot, it could work out for them. lol that would be the ideal wouldn't it? And that's actually what i aim for but i don't try to pick fights i can't win. it's hard to be the best gun when your using the weakest suit. I do place a heavy Emphasis on surival though. Though in retrospect there is alot of room for improvement.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:11:00 - [20] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: Free Healing wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: Free Healing wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: I usually ground snipe with my logi, and once I put on some armor plates I could hold my own against a heavy. By "Ground Snipe" do you mean that you run with a Sniper Rifle? if so that's definately a tactic i've never considered. I buff my suit with Enhanced Shield Extenders since the Armor Plates slow me down and make me sniper fodder. yes i run behind the pack with my corp. healing them when needed, supplying ammo, laying down uplinks. its really fun. If you don't mind me asking, how often do you die? And how far away do you stay from your squad? It seems in that case i can see the upside of being farther back to avoid direct contact with the enemy and sniper fire isn't as troublesome since you can fire back. I like to stay as close as possible to my squad, or Blue's if my squad leader doesn't have a mic and doesn't lay down directions, so that i can heal and support them as effectively as possible. So i'm curoius as to the tactics developed by other Logistics. Maybe when it comes down to it, it's just the advantage of being in a Corporation. i die around 0-3 per game and usually end up around 15+ kills and i stay back at least 50 yards. most of my corp knows where my line of sight is that way when they run into some guy with insane shields they just lure them into the open so I can drop em. playing with random people i just snipe on a hill watching a objective. And being 50 yards away doesn't hurt your support game? Also there's been a couple games where i've been shot by you from a hill lol never knew you were a Logibro though. Wouldn't you be more comfortable in a Scout Suit? (not judgement or sarcasm i'm just interested)

VADOL II Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 49	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:11:00 - [21] - Quote Free Healing wrote: VADOL II wrote: I run a pure Logistics fit. All of my skills are geared toward the logistics fit. Of course I have a couple points in teh basics of weapon combat (weaponry 3, Mass Driver 3, AR 2, each of the light weapon skills to 2), but those are just to get the biggest bang for the SP. I never have trouble getting my corp to pick me up, and Heavy squads love me. I run 2x shield extender, 1x plate, 1x rep, then the rep/hive/injector or rep/inject/link depending on need. The only other suit I have is a slight change to the starter AR AV suit. I gather you use the Mass Driver, and a Type 1 Suit? I couldn't get the Mass Driver to work for me and i Currently use: Type 1 Suit GEK-38 (assault rifle) 2 Enhanced ShEx Militia Armor Rep. (BPO) Militia PG Ex.(BPO) Militia Nanite Injector (BPO) Millitia Repair Tool (BPO) Nanohive As it stands with how wonky ISK is i was thinking of switching to a normal Assault Rifle instead of the GEK cuz kills arn't my main focus and everytime i die i have to pay 17K for the GEK alone. I use the SVER Logisuit and the EX0-5 (I think thats the right one) Mass driver. Goliath Plate, That Aur Armor Rep, more Aur Shield Extenders, Flux Nades, basic Hive, Militia Injector and basic Link. Spent lots of time on support skills, now working on my equipment skills.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:16:00 - [22] - Quote VADOL II wrote: Free Healing wrote: VADOL II wrote: I run a pure Logistics fit. All of my skills are geared toward the logistics fit. Of course I have a couple points in teh basics of weapon combat (weaponry 3, Mass Driver 3, AR 2, each of the light weapon skills to 2), but those are just to get the biggest bang for the SP. I never have trouble getting my corp to pick me up, and Heavy squads love me. I run 2x shield extender, 1x plate, 1x rep, then the rep/hive/injector or rep/inject/link depending on need. The only other suit I have is a slight change to the starter AR AV suit. I gather you use the Mass Driver, and a Type 1 Suit? I couldn't get the Mass Driver to work for me and i Currently use: Type 1 Suit GEK-38 (assault rifle) 2 Enhanced ShEx Militia Armor Rep. (BPO) Militia PG Ex.(BPO) Militia Nanite Injector (BPO) Millitia Repair Tool (BPO) Nanohive As it stands with how wonky ISK is i was thinking of switching to a normal Assault Rifle instead of the GEK cuz kills arn't my main focus and everytime i die i have to pay 17K for the GEK alone. I use the SVER Logisuit and the EX0-5 (I think thats the right one) Mass driver. Goliath Plate, That Aur Armor Rep, more Aur Shield Extenders, Flux Nades, basic Hive, Militia Injector and basic Link. Spent lots of time on support skills, now working on my equipment skills. Wow thats a pretty impressive Fit. I think i'd cringe whenever i died in that lol. I've never heard of the SVER Logisuit and can't find it on Market. Did you mean the "Skinweave" Millitia suit?
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 49	Posted - 2012.10.24 23:31:00 - [23] - Quote it only hurts when the squad runs off and i cant really help them. The only advantage i would have in a scout suit would be the secondary weapon slot.
Pranekt Tyrvoth Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 177	Posted - 2012.10.25 11:10:00 - [24] - Quote I'd say useful. :) I'm always happy to have a competent logi nearby. Reps after firefights? Great. Revives (preferably the 80% variety) after a rough battle? Will take! Ammo after I've spent most of it/all of it hunting? Excellent...
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 192	Posted - 2012.10.25 12:13:00 - [25] - Quote Very useful imo. I run nothing but logistics. Only use the type 1 and a assault rifle and it gets me by easily. The rest of the mods on the suit are militia so the total cost of the suit is about 10-11k. Dying means nothing when your loadout costs so little imo. Another good point is that when your running with a group, they are your meat shields. It's up to you to keep them topped up, revived and provide additional cover fire. Running solo with that fit and I still pretty much always go positive. Granted it's not easy to run Logi, but it's more than viable imo.
Pyranos Grigsby Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2012.10.25 13:14:00 - [26] - Quote I greatly enjoy being a Logi player. I like being able to give heals and revive, and getting the WP for team resupply is great since they nerfed the Repair Tool. From the looks of it, I go a different route than most other Logi's on this thread. I see a lot of people talking about putting shield extenders in their high slots, which I can understand is a great help since the Logi suits are really thin. However, I like to use Light Dmg Mods in the highs so I can be a little bit more punchy. I have not leveled up my Logi skills totally yet, and my Weaponry and AR skills are pretty high, so I can hold my own a little bit more. I have an armor rep in the low and the 2nd tier AR, which does great. I used to run around with the Tactical AR since it had some great range, but being able to put more rounds down range is better. I take people by surprise a lot since I can do comparable damage to an Assault fit, and I am a decent shot.
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.10.25 17:03:00 - [27] - Quote very interesting opinions and views :) I'm curious about another thing hopefully my fellow Logibro's can help me with. Nanohive Vs. Drop Uplink: Which is more "Worth it?" As far as i can tell both of these modules are very nice. Normally i'd roll with the Nanohive since everybody needs ammo. And it requires less PG than the Drop Uplink. What are your thoughts on which is more useful/appreciated by our Teammates? Is one more useful than the other depending on which mode (Skirmish Vs. Ambush) your currently in? as always you views and opinions are appreciated
Henry FitzEmpress Reaper Galactic 22	Posted - 2012.10.25 17:47:00 - [28] - Quote Free Healing wrote: very interesting opinions and views :) I'm curious about another thing hopefully my fellow Logibro's can help me with. Nanohive Vs. Drop Uplink: Which is more "Worth it?" As far as i can tell both of these modules are very nice. Normally i'd roll with the Nanohive since everybody needs ammo. And it requires less PG than the Drop Uplink. What are your thoughts on which is more useful/appreciated by our Teammates? Is one more useful than the other depending on which mode (Skirmish Vs. Ambush) your currently in? as always you views and opinions are appreciated On ambush, I think the uplink is more valuable as it keeps the team together. The random spawn is dicey. In skirmish, dropping the uplink (in a protected area) near a capture point is good too. Helps keep reinforcements close. I tend to see nanohives all over the map (regardless of ambush/skirmish), but uplinks are few and far between. I tend to learn toward uplink. Plus 25 WP per spawn isn't shabby.
Pyranos Grigsby Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2012.10.25 17:56:00 - [29] - Quote Personally, I like the Nanohive because if you are a good player and stay alive for a long time, you can run out of ammo quickly. Keeping everyone supplied is nice, and the WP's you get from the resupply are helpful. Once you get your Logistics Dropsuit skill up to lvl 5 though, the top tier dropsuit has four equipment slots, so you could have both if you can spare the PG and CPU. I haven't leveled up my skills that high yet, so I'm not sure if you can do it that way or not. I would agree with Henry on the Skirmish/Ambush setups though. Droplink is nice in keeping a squad together when the spawn is random. Though I don't see a lot of Nanohives on the battlefields normally, which sucks when I run out of ammo and there isn't a supply depot on the map.
Henry FitzEmpress Reaper Galactic 22	Posted - 2012.10.25 17:58:00 - [30] - Quote Pyranos Grigsby wrote: Personally, I like the Nanohive because if you are a good player and stay alive for a long time, you can run out of ammo quickly. That's a problem I'd like to have!



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