DUST Search - DUST CORPS: THE INDEPENDENTS AND THE PUPPETS

HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:

Super Cargo wrote:

Can't if the the OP is trying to be serious or just trolling.....

Either way, it's pretty sad.

PS3 DUST players need a way to generate ISK on par with EVE players.Pre exsisting Eve corps having standing armies is fine. Buy your troops A.K.A. puppets.But QQing in the forums about weapon nerfs or objecting to the power of AUR DUST items that PS3 DUST stand alone corp can buy to combat yours because you have the monetary means to BUY players loyalty and essentially limitless gear is total bullshit.Why because its opposition to your status quo.You(EVE PLAYER) need us PS3 player to secure planet side assets.The logical conclusion would be to BUY them on a more permanent basis and any singular person objecting to or questioning why they cant be in a more leadership role would be cast aside and made example of .The direction of the CORP as a whole would be decided by the pre exsisting power structure of the former EVE only corp for which you already have a hierarchy.So this PS3 player is always just a pawn...to be moved about the board at your whim.................................... a puppet.

IF the weekend FPS PS3 player is fine with that so be it.I know whats been said in interviews and I have yet to see one of you try to educate the masses that this will be possible.An DUST corp controlling its own agenda.I know what EVE is about as do you.Im just letting them the PS3 player know that this game is way deeper than they think.....and you being scared are trying to paint me as a troll...lol

You being a forum warrior and EVE player are trying to steer public opinion in a direction that benefits you.

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HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.10.24 03:34:00 - [1] - Quote Dust corps will split into to 2 groups the "Puppets" and the "Independents".I hearby coin the phrase on this date in this thread. The Independent DUST corps will accept contracts with THE EVE player paying for the collateral to accomplish the task.Possible bonus amounts to buy gear and negotiating the acquisition of the district/s.Working in conjunction with EVE players in a mutually beneficial partnership and will not be dictated,ordered,or told how to tactically acquire the district/s. Independent DUST corps will strive to acquire there own district/s making monetary gains. Puppet corps will be DUST corps that are dictated to .Told what to do and how to do it by an EVE player.Or pimp themselves out to be an EVE standing army or tool if you will. THE HECATONCHIRES will be an INDEPENDENT DUST CORP. and will not do business with any EVE corp that has the attitude that we are merely some planet dwelling monkey that wants a "treat". EDIT: Comments from this thread. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=375849#post375849 #13 Posted: 2012.10.21 22:31 \| Report Like 1 dust players will never be on even footing with EVE pilots. the point of eve players having pocket dust corps is the point. one mission can fund a dust player for a while and hell one hour of mining in null sec can fund an dust merc with proto everything for a while. all i have to say is deal with it, that's the point. Separate thread #6 Posted: 2012.10.21 11:22 \| Report Like 2 I'm not sure at what point it was implied that Dust mercs would be on an even footing with Eve pilots...... isnt the whole point that we are mercs,,, and in situations like that would be relying on the Eve pilots to fund the wars (since we are fighting for them)?? #1 Posted: 2012.10.06 15:40 \| Report Like 9 Simply adding more controls to the Corporation would be cool, one I'd like to see is a "Tax". It's set by the CEO at a certain amount, 0%-90%. Everytime a player earns money in a fight, the Corporation takes a slice of it. Some Corps will have 0% Tax, others might have a hefty one depending on who they are. Just an idea. ^this guy could already have an EVE alt and as CEO wants to tax you the DUST PLAYER. This is what they think...........uh that doesnt jive with me.Im not your monkey.You can go into EVE GATE and read thread after thread that we will be there servants.This attitude is rampant and most rampant in CROSS play EVE players who have plans for you to get them what they want to there own ends.So they have formed corporations over here and will fund there wallets with there alts.If you want a paycheck and dont care then go be a PUPPET. http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/06/interview-dust-514-on-ps3-will-help-hurt-eve-online-players-in-new-ways/ Fannar explained that soldiers could outright rule over an entire planet, cutting off another corporation's much-needed resources for survival. More important than this, though, is the crossover consequences. EVE players can attack planets from orbit, and Dust players can retaliate in real-time. Console gamers, in a move CCP suspects will be popular with the griefing-obsessed FPS crowd, can also destroy resources EVE players need to harvest. From here, a number of things could happen: those soldiers can move on with their paycheck, pave the way for a hiring EVE corporation to take the territory, or claim an area for themselves. This is the end all be all of what I will eventually do.However long it takes.Ill take contracts sure.But if you think your gonna be running my corp....I dont think so. Like I said earlier in this thread THE HECATONCHIRES will be either hated or respected but we wont bend at the knee.Nah not this guy.....Though not the intention of this thread if you read this and you have the same attitude as me then join my corp. If not get bent....PUPPET
Nicol Bolas Planeswalker Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 102	Posted - 2012.10.24 03:42:00 - [2] - Quote Talk to my CEO Osiris Greywolf of Lost Legion. Although we do have EVE players aboard Im sure he will like this.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.24 03:48:00 - [3] - Quote You're starting to sound like you have an inferiority complex, man.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1032	Posted - 2012.10.24 03:53:00 - [4] - Quote thats to complicated we just want to shoot people in pubs and do corp battles. win some, lose some, rez 10 seconds later. life of a merc is simple, stop trying to over think things with principles.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.10.24 03:55:00 - [5] - Quote Free Beers wrote: thats to complicated we just want to shoot people in pubs and do corp battles. win some, lose some, rez 10 seconds later. life of a merc is simple, stop trying to over think things with principles. WHAT ABOUT THE PLAN FOR US TO BE PLANETARY NEIGHBOURS BEERS?!
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.10.24 03:55:00 - [6] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: You're starting to sound like you have an inferiority complex, man. ^ISK TRANSFERING EVE PLAYER Silence puppet.You just dont want the rest of the community to know what you guys are up to.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1032	Posted - 2012.10.24 04:36:00 - [7] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Free Beers wrote: thats to complicated we just want to shoot people in pubs and do corp battles. win some, lose some, rez 10 seconds later. life of a merc is simple, stop trying to over think things with principles. WHAT ABOUT THE PLAN FOR US TO BE PLANETARY NEIGHBOURS BEERS?! lol sure thing but we need a name for our planet in the suburbs. Some where that has good shopping too to keep the Misses happy. only cool kids. No scrubs or blueberries
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.10.24 05:12:00 - [8] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Free Beers wrote: thats to complicated we just want to shoot people in pubs and do corp battles. win some, lose some, rez 10 seconds later. life of a merc is simple, stop trying to over think things with principles. WHAT ABOUT THE PLAN FOR US TO BE PLANETARY NEIGHBOURS BEERS?! lol sure thing but we need a name for our planet in the suburbs. Some where that has good shopping too to keep the Misses happy. only cool kids. No scrubs or blueberries smurfs scare me tbh just when u think they watching ur back or the logical common sense flank point.......they drift off doin mindless things to get themselves killed so yea no blueberries allowed only kool kids
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.10.25 20:02:00 - [9] - Quote Free Beers wrote: thats to complicated we just want to shoot people in pubs and do corp battles. win some, lose some, rez 10 seconds later. life of a merc is simple, stop trying to over think things with principles. which makes that person a stupid slave..................beers also has an EVE account. These statements that they say is misinformation and spin.
The Polish Hammer Doomheim 373	Posted - 2012.10.25 20:07:00 - [10] - Quote Mother of God, some of the Engrish in this thread....

Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.25 20:09:00 - [11] - Quote Not to mention the eggers are going to try to make the dust bunnies as mad as possible. Gonna be important to have independent people to fight back.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.10.25 20:10:00 - [12] - Quote The Polish Hammer wrote: Mother of God, some of the Engrish in this thread.... another wannabe puppet master^
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.10.25 20:12:00 - [13] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Not to mention the eggers are going to try to make the dust bunnies as mad as possible. Gonna be important to have independent people to fight back. agreed sir Ps3 FPS player^
Cloudy Zan 107	Posted - 2012.10.25 20:14:00 - [14] - Quote HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote: The Polish Hammer wrote: Mother of God, some of the Engrish in this thread.... another wannabe puppet master^ found another one right here^
Super Cargo Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 428	Posted - 2012.10.25 20:17:00 - [15] - Quote Can't if the the OP is trying to be serious or just trolling..... Either way, it's pretty sad.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.10.25 20:38:00 - [16] - Quote Super Cargo wrote: Can't if the the OP is trying to be serious or just trolling..... Either way, it's pretty sad. PS3 DUST players need a way to generate ISK on par with EVE players.Pre exsisting Eve corps having standing armies is fine. Buy your troops A.K.A. puppets.But QQing in the forums about weapon nerfs or objecting to the power of AUR DUST items that PS3 DUST stand alone corp can buy to combat yours because you have the monetary means to BUY players loyalty and essentially limitless gear is total bullshit.Why because its opposition to your status quo.You(EVE PLAYER) need us PS3 player to secure planet side assets.The logical conclusion would be to BUY them on a more permanent basis and any singular person objecting to or questioning why they cant be in a more leadership role would be cast aside and made example of .The direction of the CORP as a whole would be decided by the pre exsisting power structure of the former EVE only corp for which you already have a hierarchy.So this PS3 player is always just a pawn...to be moved about the board at your whim.................................... a puppet. IF the weekend FPS PS3 player is fine with that so be it.I know whats been said in interviews and I have yet to see one of you try to educate the masses that this will be possible.An DUST corp controlling its own agenda.I know what EVE is about as do you.Im just letting them the PS3 player know that this game is way deeper than they think.....and you being scared are trying to paint me as a troll...lol You being a forum warrior and EVE player are trying to steer public opinion in a direction that benefits you.
Grezkev The Red Guards 100	Posted - 2012.10.25 21:36:00 - [17] - Quote This thread basically says that the social system will be divided between pimps and whores. Not very surprising if you ask me, seeing as how that is the case with every social system throughout mankind since we left the caves. COOL PHD DISSERTATION TOPIC: Video Game Culture Develops like Our Own!!
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.25 21:36:00 - [18] - Quote HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote: Super Cargo wrote: Can't if the the OP is trying to be serious or just trolling..... Either way, it's pretty sad. PS3 DUST players need a way to generate ISK on par with EVE players.Pre exsisting Eve corps having standing armies is fine. Buy your troops A.K.A. puppets.But QQing in the forums about weapon nerfs or objecting to the power of AUR DUST items that PS3 DUST stand alone corp can buy to combat yours because you have the monetary means to BUY players loyalty and essentially limitless gear is total bullshit.Why because its opposition to your status quo.You(EVE PLAYER) need us PS3 player to secure planet side assets.The logical conclusion would be to BUY them on a more permanent basis and any singular person objecting to or questioning why they cant be in a more leadership role would be cast aside and made example of .The direction of the CORP as a whole would be decided by the pre exsisting power structure of the former EVE only corp for which you already have a hierarchy.So this PS3 player is always just a pawn...to be moved about the board at your whim.................................... a puppet. IF the weekend FPS PS3 player is fine with that so be it.I know whats been said in interviews and I have yet to see one of you try to educate the masses that this will be possible.An DUST corp controlling its own agenda.I know what EVE is about as do you.Im just letting them the PS3 player know that this game is way deeper than they think.....and you being scared are trying to paint me as a troll...lol You being a forum warrior and EVE player are trying to steer public opinion in a direction that benefits you. You do realize that we all like this game and like the idea of making our own way in it the same as you do, right? I have no more interest in the "puppet" idea than you do.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.10.25 21:46:00 - [19] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RBDxkYsJKjg#! 1:48 to 2:29 clearly stated that YOU the DUST player will have options. 2:59 to 3:44 This establishes the that the OPERATOR or "player"can have 2 accounts.One in EVE the other in DUST.YOU the PS3 player dont see that on the surface so while they are in these forums.You dont see that they have EVE characters.What the EVE players have done is make DUST corps in this game under the preexisting EVE corps name.Putting themselves as CEO at the beginning of this build.CODEX.Transferred money to there DUST alternate account (alt's) to recruit YOU .The PS3 DUST player.To essentially buy your loyalty.They did this at the first opportunity that they could.Although they were not supposed to as we in the DUST game the PS3 player do not have a ECONOMY where we can make money.EVE players can make money doing various things at there leisure.Within 30 minutes generate enough money that would take your DUST character AWHILE to do.Are items are cheap right now in the beta I ASSUME because we have no way to generate income except for fighting.The idea is that a DISTRICT will generate some form of income.So you the DUST MERC PS3 player can buy equipment,hire other mercenaries,buy installations.................do not let them pull the wool over your eyes. 4:21 4:44 So an EVE corp gets pissed at you and wants to hire out a MERC DUST CORP to take your DUST ONLY CORP DISTRICT they can with money OR send in there own EVE PC/DUST PS3 standing puppet army...so be it ....BUT you being a DUST corp can fire on there ships in orbit and defend your district with AUR DUST vehicles/weps/gear and a nifty INSTALLATION called a sky fire battery.Again they need you.Dont let them ride the forums and take the strength away from the AUR items.It maybe your last defense against corps with billions of ISK. 4:44 to 5:11 Im not inciting anarchy or that you cant work together with a EVE player.But you must realize that they have a vested interest in what you DO.Its about power.Politics.DUST is a massive LANDGRAB. FENNAR"We want the Playstation 3 players to enter that vibrant world,and experience it,and then starting to affect it and becoming a real member of that world"< Amen brother....... I say. I wont bend or be your slave.A puppet.and Ill carve my crops name with my NOVA KNIFE into every puppet who tries to stop me.THE HECATONCHIRES
SGT Neill REVA CORPORATION 53	Posted - 2012.10.25 21:49:00 - [20] - Quote hm wonder if we can blow up EVE fleets with orbital cannons on the planets?

HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.10.25 21:50:00 - [21] - Quote Grezkev wrote: This thread basically says that the social system will be divided between pimps and whores. Not very surprising if you ask me, seeing as how that is the case with every social system throughout mankind since we left the caves. COOL PHD DISSERTATION TOPIC: Video Game Culture Develops like Our Own!! If you would like to put it into those words.That is your right.As for the point.You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
Cloudy Zan 107	Posted - 2012.10.25 21:51:00 - [22] - Quote SGT Neill wrote: hm wonder if we can blow up EVE fleets with orbital cannons on the planets? I'm petitioning to be able to camp a planet and snipe EVE ships any where in the system.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.25 21:52:00 - [23] - Quote Cloudy Zan wrote: SGT Neill wrote: hm wonder if we can blow up EVE fleets with orbital cannons on the planets? I'm petitioning to be able to camp a planet and snipe EVE ships any where in the system. As far as we know those cannons will only be able to attack an EVE player in orbit over the district the cannon is in.
Cloudy Zan 107	Posted - 2012.10.25 21:55:00 - [24] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Cloudy Zan wrote: SGT Neill wrote: hm wonder if we can blow up EVE fleets with orbital cannons on the planets? I'm petitioning to be able to camp a planet and snipe EVE ships any where in the system. As far as we know those cannons will only be able to attack an EVE player in orbit over the district the cannon is in.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.25 21:55:00 - [25] - Quote They probably have to be in orbit. Hence ORBITAL cannon. But I see no reason why it shouldn't be able to destroy capital ships. IMHO super caps should NOT be able to enter orbit (invent some lore about mass & gravity & colliding with planets being bad for your health). I'm saying this because losing a Titan or such to an orbital cannon would be unbearable for some. I hear they take some time to build...
Sigmunt Floyd Beyond Hypothetical Box 20	Posted - 2012.10.25 21:58:00 - [26] - Quote I'm sorry Sir, could you explain something to my. As I understand you want to set up an independent, and free from the influence of eve pilots, corporation that will grow in power and one day turn against them? It is unacceptable, I will have to add you to my watch list and have an eye on you. Expect that Dyrector Jita will contact you shortly(he is very important guy in Jita, and he is angry at you). (sophisticating trolling post)
Sylwester Dziewiecki Doomheim 83	Posted - 2012.10.25 22:08:00 - [27] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Cloudy Zan wrote: SGT Neill wrote: hm wonder if we can blow up EVE fleets with orbital cannons on the planets? I'm petitioning to be able to camp a planet and snipe EVE ships any where in the system. As far as we know those cannons will only be able to attack an EVE player in orbit over the district the cannon is in. You can always hire EVE mercenary corp to "protect you from the orbit" and then turn against them.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.10.25 22:13:00 - [28] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Cloudy Zan wrote: SGT Neill wrote: hm wonder if we can blow up EVE fleets with orbital cannons on the planets? I'm petitioning to be able to camp a planet and snipe EVE ships any where in the system. As far as we know those cannons will only be able to attack an EVE player in orbit over the district the cannon is in. You can always hire EVE mercenary corp to "protect you from the orbit" and then turn against them. Exactly my friend ....now were using our noodles.muhahahah glorious yes.There in lies the beauty of it a REAL GAME.Not just shooty shooty ,beoow,beoow. Here lies a thread please read youll see whats was happening.....its nut some nut ball conspiracy theory. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=41918&p=2
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.10.25 22:16:00 - [29] - Quote Some pretend they were ignorant.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.10.25 22:22:00 - [30] - Quote and some have valid points......but there buying stuff before a tournament,skillbooks ,gear,vehicels.But that stuff was wiped.BECAUSE THEY GOT CAUGHT.....MEANWHILE THE PS3 PLAYER IS WONDERING WHY IN THE TOURNAMENT, HES SEEING 6 TANKS AND DOESNT HAVE A CHANCE IN HELL.IF IT HADNT. Most of those objecting are obviously EVE players.The recruiting with sign on bonuses,and buying of skillbooks to the masses to grow there corps is what I think is B.S. That is a distinct advantage over anyone from the PS3 side trying to start up an EVE corp that does not have EVE friends or an EVE account.



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