Solution: Give us armor hardeners.

dont think anyone seriously complained about RRs anyway because from what i heard the range u had to be at to RR was way too close and the lock on mechanism wasnt workin too well

Oh they were pretty broken. Yeah range sucked, but if you got them on someone, you had a god mode vehicle, because their cooldown was negligible, you could triple rep someone and have something like 1000 hp/s heals going practically 100% of the time with no end.

Vehicle Feedback

Issues:

Armor vs Shields

Lets begin with the armor vs shield tank problem. Currently armor in DUST gets no love. In fact i'd go as far as saying armor is hated by CCP.

Why?
Let me explain.
1st off in this recent build CCP added shield hardeners, now common sense would entail balance wise if you're gonna add an active 30% resist module you would give both sets the same options. This isnt the case in DUST, there are only shield hardeners atm which automatically gives shield tanks a head to head advantage. Now some of you might say GÇ£well 10 seconds active resists isnt muchGÇ¥ ohhhh but it is in a tank fight...means im doin 30% less damage and with the current trend being missile tanks (will get to the missile issue later) explosive damage is more effective vs armor.

So not only do u have a 30% resist advantage u also have a turret that does more damage vs armor. Armor tanks dont have that advantage.

Solution: Give us armor hardeners.

FREE Swarms

The starter fit free swarm launchers/militia swarms. These need to be looked at. Im sorry but they do. When you think about it in theory if I brought out my armor tank the entire enemy team can just swap to these FREE 0 ISK starter fits and do 1200+ damage since explosive damage is more vs armor. Is this fair? no. At least with forge guns people need to train some skills first. Now im not sayin remove militia swarms/anti armor starter fit in fact im sayin tone down the damage to 3 rockets so it does 900 damage instead of 1200. I know newbies need to have some sort of anti-armor capabilities but it should not be good enough to have just a couple people be able to drop a madrugar+ easy.


2md problem with swarms and tbh this is one of my main problem with these things.
Its stupid how the tracking vs tanks are atm and yet these things tracking vs derpships are soo broken. Cover makes little sense when u are a tanker vs swarms as ive seen swarms make 90 degree turns and STILL hit me when ive already dipped behind cover. That is broken. Not ifs or buts its broken especially considering tank speed got nerfed again and armor is slow as **** since we need to have plates on which slow you down even more. Fix the swarm tracking. Swarms should take the fastest route to hit a target not follow the exact path a vehicle takes, its this very reason why derpships cant be hit and why they bend around corners vs tanks.


Missile Turrets

This is another problem. Missiles are too good still imho. They suit every purpose hence you find solo tankers with missiles. They are good at all ranges. Short or Long with little drawback and with missiles doing extra damage to armor tanks it creates a problem when a tank has both short and long range capabilities vs another tank all while still being effective vs infantry. It makes the other turrets useless. Missiles need a defined role.

I use blasters primarily because when I do get my surya it gets a bonus to blasters. Sargaris' get a bonus to missiles.....why even bother with a Surya when u can just get a shield tanked Sargaris that not only has a 30% active shield hardener mod but also has u beat at both close and long range?


Conclusion

Armor vs Shield is a serious problem that CCP needs to get right. The one thing armor had goin for it which was remote reps got nerfed to ****. When people cried how tanks were OP CCP should look at the data before applying nerfs to everything and realise that it was shield tanks back then that was OP not armor and once again you find most people using shield tanks and people crying for more nerfs when armor is and continues to be ****.

Do I think tanks currently are OP? No.
I do however think there is a big imbalance between shield and armor tanks and has been for a long while now hence the majority of tankers are shield. Hell even look at derpships? Do u see gallente derpships as much as caldari? Nope. Once again...shields vs armor.

Solution: Give us armor hardeners.

Missile Turrets

This is another problem. Missiles are too good still imho. They suit every purpose hence you find solo tankers with missiles. They are good at all ranges. Short or Long with little drawback and with missiles doing extra damage to armor tanks it creates a problem when a tank has both short and long range capabilities vs another tank all while still being effective vs infantry. It makes the other turrets useless. Missiles need a defined role.

I use blasters primarily because when I do get my surya it gets a bonus to blasters. Sargaris' get a bonus to missiles.....why even bother with a Surya when u can just get a shield tanked Sargaris that not only has a 30% active shield hardener mod but also has u beat at both close and long range?

Don't forget infantry that armor tank. I feel all alone down here... Cold.... help me.. heeeeeeellllp

Oh yeah, any attempt at armor tanking as infantry and you will move like a snail.