DUST Search - Is anyone actually good at killing people with the forge gun?

Altina McAlterson wrote:

TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:

Nstomper wrote:

If so care to give some tips? I cant kill anybody with it , I try and try but always die
Might just go back too laser rifl

No, because it will get nerf.

As much as I hate to admit it, probably.

I maintain that anytime I kill someone with my forge gun it was in fact swamp gas what had refracted off of Venus.

Vermaak Doe wrote:

I was back when strafe wasn't like going through 2 feet of snow, the trick is to not only carry the regular gun but also aim for the largest mass on your enemy as there's a better hit chance

Exactly. Where you hit them is irrelevant with a forge gun, so aim for center mass and let it rip.

From my personal experience going maybe 50/50 with it seems to be what is expected. Plus a few more times splash damage takes a monster chunk out of their health. I'm sure there are people better at it than me but I do not believe you're going to ever reliably hit infantry with it. I try to only take shots at people with it when I'm not going to die if I miss or if I already have a charge stored when they run up on me. I always carry a pistol for keeping myself alive.

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Nstomper Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0 205	Posted - 2012.10.23 05:03:00 - [1] - Quote If so care to give some tips? I cant kill anybody with it , I try and try but always die Might just go back too laser rifl
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.10.23 05:04:00 - [2] - Quote Nstomper wrote: If so care to give some tips? I cant kill anybody with it , I try and try but always die Might just go back too laser rifl No, because it will get nerf.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 385	Posted - 2012.10.23 05:05:00 - [3] - Quote I was back when strafe wasn't like going through 2 feet of snow, the trick is to not only carry the regular gun but also aim for the largest mass on your enemy as there's a better hit chance
D3aTH D3alER54 The Southern Legion 130	Posted - 2012.10.23 05:09:00 - [4] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: I was back when strafe wasn't like going through 2 feet of snow, the trick is to not only carry the regular gun but also aim for the largest mass on your enemy as there's a better hit chance Get da splash damage on them, and i usually just use it for vehicles and snipe enemies. =)
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 385	Posted - 2012.10.23 05:14:00 - [5] - Quote D3aTH D3alER54 wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: I was back when strafe wasn't like going through 2 feet of snow, the trick is to not only carry the regular gun but also aim for the largest mass on your enemy as there's a better hit chance Get da splash damage on them, and i usually just use it for vehicles and snipe enemies. =) Splash is for the aimless and trodden down,all I needed was direct damage
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.23 05:15:00 - [6] - Quote TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote: Nstomper wrote: If so care to give some tips? I cant kill anybody with it , I try and try but always die Might just go back too laser rifl No, because it will get nerf. As much as I hate to admit it, probably. I maintain that anytime I kill someone with my forge gun it was in fact swamp gas what had refracted off of Venus. Vermaak Doe wrote: I was back when strafe wasn't like going through 2 feet of snow, the trick is to not only carry the regular gun but also aim for the largest mass on your enemy as there's a better hit chance Exactly. Where you hit them is irrelevant with a forge gun, so aim for center mass and let it rip. From my personal experience going maybe 50/50 with it seems to be what is expected. Plus a few more times splash damage takes a monster chunk out of their health. I'm sure there are people better at it than me but I do not believe you're going to ever reliably hit infantry with it. I try to only take shots at people with it when I'm not going to die if I miss or if I already have a charge stored when they run up on me. I always carry a pistol for keeping myself alive.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 385	Posted - 2012.10.23 05:22:00 - [7] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote: Nstomper wrote: If so care to give some tips? I cant kill anybody with it , I try and try but always die Might just go back too laser rifl No, because it will get nerf. As much as I hate to admit it, probably. I maintain that anytime I kill someone with my forge gun it was in fact swamp gas what had refracted off of Venus. Vermaak Doe wrote: I was back when strafe wasn't like going through 2 feet of snow, the trick is to not only carry the regular gun but also aim for the largest mass on your enemy as there's a better hit chance Exactly. Where you hit them is irrelevant with a forge gun, so aim for center mass and let it rip. From my personal experience going maybe 50/50 with it seems to be what is expected. Plus a few more times splash damage takes a monster chunk out of their health. I'm sure there are people better at it than me but I do not believe you're going to ever reliably hit infantry with it. I try to only take shots at people with it when I'm not going to die if I miss or if I already have a charge stored when they run up on me. I always carry a pistol for keeping myself alive. You see young heavy, I killed with it back when hit detection was bad and strafe was good, when it took a steady hand and good foresight. Like I said, splash damage kills are for the down trodden and aimless. So are you gonna be one of those or are you gonna make me proud fatman!
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2012.10.23 05:24:00 - [8] - Quote I am really bad at forge gun killing but aiming for the kneecaps looks like it helps.
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2012.10.23 05:34:00 - [9] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: You see young heavy, I killed with it back when hit detection was bad and strafe was good, when it took a steady hand and good foresight. Like I said, splash damage kills are for the down trodden and aimless. So are you gonna be one of those or are you gonna make me proud fatman! So going 50/50 on my anti-infantry shots is bad? I'm not hitting enough people with it? Hmmmm, guess that means something else needs a nerf, maybe even several things...oh wait! No I'll just HTFU and make it happen. (Not for the OP) For the OP, it just takes practice and honestly might be one of those things that some people are good at doing consistently and some people aren't. Like headshotting someone with a sniper rifle when they're mid jump (please keep bunny hopping everyone, your predictable jump arc amuses me to no end).
Ter Ateb Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2012.10.23 06:48:00 - [10] - Quote Bait people into walking around corners and straight into your charged forge gun's sights.

Bishop Sunrunner Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2012.10.23 07:20:00 - [11] - Quote Nstomper wrote: If so care to give some tips? I cant kill anybody with it , I try and try but always die Might just go back too laser rifl its harsh to hit the enemy merc with the electric charge except tanks... crouching while aiming down the sight will reduce the sens a bit - that way it will be a bit easier to lock on the enemy to hitem hard with the kinetic slug.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2012.10.23 07:39:00 - [12] - Quote Nstomper wrote: If so care to give some tips? I cant kill anybody with it , I try and try but always die Might just go back too laser rifl Wait until they are hacking an objective...................then pow! right to the back of the clones skull!.........at ten paces it works every time but its iffy at longer ranges.
B-Man The Southern Legion 1	Posted - 2012.10.23 07:48:00 - [13] - Quote Having the higher ground helps so if you miss you can at least get some splash damage happening.
D3aTH D3alER54 The Southern Legion 130	Posted - 2012.10.23 08:48:00 - [14] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: D3aTH D3alER54 wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: I was back when strafe wasn't like going through 2 feet of snow, the trick is to not only carry the regular gun but also aim for the largest mass on your enemy as there's a better hit chance Get da splash damage on them, and i usually just use it for vehicles and snipe enemies. =) Splash is for the aimless and trodden down,all I needed was direct damage Lol, direct dmg with forge does require luck mate, it's not like you can pinpoint aim it...
Gawdbotherer Doomheim 6	Posted - 2012.10.23 11:33:00 - [15] - Quote I can hit people with it pretty easily (as some of you have found out) I still use the original Forge as I find that it's more accurate when im crouching, plus i can move whilst im charging and the charge isnt too bad once you are up to level 3 or so. You have to remember that you need to wait for the reticle to go orange!! If the reticle is still blue your not going to hit anything, snipers or anyone standing still aren't a problem, moving targets are harder I find moving with the target at range is easier than looking left and right for some reason. It just takes practice, i've been using them on this character for a week or so and i still avg 5 or so kills a game, and plenty more if there is alot of vehicles.
Kaeralli Sturmovos KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2012.10.23 11:37:00 - [16] - Quote crosshairs are a big help once they are red your enemy is dead lolz. lolz guy above me needs to crouch
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.10.23 12:05:00 - [17] - Quote Anti infantry? I thought ppl used the forge gun to kill tanks
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 317	Posted - 2012.10.23 12:11:00 - [18] - Quote Forge guns are atm very powerfull and i can only think of a hand full of people skilled enough to farm infantry/Dropships with them. but you dont see that many users around either
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.10.23 13:42:00 - [19] - Quote Nstomper wrote: If so care to give some tips? I cant kill anybody with it , I try and try but always die Might just go back too laser rifl Me! I love forge gunning! Its so much fun! Blasting vehicles and shooting people in the face is fun! The trick to forge gunning people is to NOT use any of the assault forge guns. The assault forge guns are charge and release immediately. Its like being with a *****. Use any of the forge guns that hold charge! Press the fire button and hold charge. When a red dot runs in front of you and the reticle turns red, release immediately! Instant bukaki! Thats all folks!
Sylwester Dziewiecki Doomheim 83	Posted - 2012.10.23 18:17:00 - [20] - Quote Success depends on the tactics and persistence in every area. To be a successive with 'Forge' weapons you have to play smartly. Try to minimize the disadvantages and maximize the advantages. I would not recommend anyone to spawn with the intention of killing only infantry, because HMG is more specialize in that.

D3aTH D3alER54 The Southern Legion 130	Posted - 2012.10.23 20:51:00 - [21] - Quote Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote: crosshairs are a big help once they are red your enemy is dead lolz. lolz guy above me needs to crouch Ahh yes i never crouch, thanks for the time =)
Cwazy Wabbit Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2012.10.23 21:06:00 - [22] - Quote Ive done ok with killing mercs with the forge but i find myself much more adept at hitting armor and turrets. My absolute favorite thing to do as of late is wait until the enemies RDV is hovering just before it drops its LAV and BLAM... no more LAV.
The Polish Hammer Doomheim 373	Posted - 2012.10.23 21:19:00 - [23] - Quote Cwazy Wabbit wrote: Ive done ok with killing mercs with the forge but i find myself much more adept at hitting armor and turrets. My absolute favorite thing to do as of late is wait until the enemies RDV is hovering just before it drops its LAV and BLAM... no more LAV. Ahhhhh yes....destroying LAVs before the get dropped. One of my favorite things as well. For my 2 ISK, I've found better success when you're at a higher elevation than what you're intended target is. Despite previous ego-stroking comments, splash is your friend here because the forge is intended to hit vehicles/installations not infantry (even though it can). I've direct-impacted people from considerable distances before albeit it's usually after a few shots. Also, distance is your friend here as well, unless you're considerably close. I've been hit point-blank with a forge shot before Twas nasty
corbear Ormand Algintal Core Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2012.10.23 21:36:00 - [24] - Quote Higher up than your enemy (Splash damage is a must) and when the reticule turns red does NOT mean he's a dead infantry, especially at longer ranges your shots will go either left or right, I only bring out the forge to take out tanks/installations/dropships(My favorite) and then if there's nothing else to shoot at, I'll take pop shots at snipers and infantry, as an Anti-Infantry weapon, this thing just doesn't cut it sorry to say.
D3aTH D3alER54 The Southern Legion 130	Posted - 2012.10.23 22:59:00 - [25] - Quote corbear Ormand wrote: Higher up than your enemy (Splash damage is a must) and when the reticule turns red does NOT mean he's a dead infantry, especially at longer ranges your shots will go either left or right, I only bring out the forge to take out tanks/installations/dropships(My favorite) and then if there's nothing else to shoot at, I'll take pop shots at snipers and infantry, as an Anti-Infantry weapon, this thing just doesn't cut it sorry to say. I acutally just tried crouching and i'm getting alot of direct hits and splash dmg, that combined with height is a beast!!
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.24 01:46:00 - [26] - Quote D3aTH D3alER54 wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: D3aTH D3alER54 wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: I was back when strafe wasn't like going through 2 feet of snow, the trick is to not only carry the regular gun but also aim for the largest mass on your enemy as there's a better hit chance Get da splash damage on them, and i usually just use it for vehicles and snipe enemies. =) Splash is for the aimless and trodden down,all I needed was direct damage Lol, direct dmg with forge does require luck mate, it's not like you can pinpoint aim it... hehe, I remember my best non-vehicle Forge Gun shot. Came across a bunnyhopper in an assault suit, and he commenced to hip hop, hippa to da hippy hippy hip hip hop and ya don't stop while inaccurately spamming his assault rifle at me. soon as his feet touched the ground from his third bunnyhop he disintegrated. I guffawed for the rest of the match.


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