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Heavenly Daughter
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.10.23 13:26:00 -
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SGT Neill wrote:Basically you want us all to be noobs
Far from it, I just dont want the situation being that any new player being put off by not at least having a semblance of equality or, people will not stay the game and the game dies, CCP will not let that happen for sure.
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Heavenly Daughter
CrimeWave Syndicate
71
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:10:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Heavenly Daughter wrote:I understand that CCP wants players to be playing this game for YEARS to come, well they had better decrease the SP earning by a factor of 10 to get anywhere near that time span.
In just under 3 week since the new build, I already see Prototype weapon kills. That way they really could increase the latter SP earning so it feels less of a grind.
I half envisage everyone wearing militia gear for a year,.
Heavenly Daughter GTFO with this terrible idea yall realise this isnt all the skills in game right? jesus ffs heavenly god plz help me to understand how ppl come up with these terrible suggestions
HAHA, I guess now it will nearly a year to reach the skill level we have now......... |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:14:00 -
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Heavenly Daughter wrote:SGT Neill wrote:Basically you want us all to be noobs Far from it, I just dont want the situation being that any new player being put off by not at least having a semblance of equality or, people will not stay the game and the game dies, CCP will not let that happen for sure. H.D
Yea... that new SP cap - kinda is CCP's way of trolling you. |
fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
211
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:48:00 -
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FLAME BAIT!!
most people are bitching its too slow, I wish you the best of luck here, that said heres why I disagree.
Have you looked at all of the skills? you are right you can be in proto suit with all proto mods and proto weapons in three months. but thats one suit, two maybe three weapons. There are still vehicles, all the EF skills, logi skills, and more stuff is going to be added.
Now thats also assuming you only have an interest in a very small role on the battle field ever. this reset I skilled into just about everything at the expense of vehicles and all but two proto weapons, lemme tell you there is a lot more worth playing, then a few weapons, and lemme tell you those EW skills are helpfull as hell.
not to mention sure I can rolll proto in no time but if I spend 4x as much in that one thing I can roll standards that are almost as good as the proto gear, and proto that can roll any other protos face off. proficencys dont look like much but untill you have em you are just middle of the road, and I mean ALL the ones associated with that weapon.
as much as i kinda like you idea, it doesn't really work as well as it sounds. people just get bored. the best thing to do is to give them that feed back that they can get good quick, but withhold what can make them truly competent in a role, that way by the time they relise how long some of the later skills take they have already invested so much time and are competative enough that they don't relise or care how long it takes.
This method feeds our need for instant gratification and for a sense of accomplishment. its one of the reasons I like skills to traditional leveling, you don't feel like you got tricked into an arduous grind because you can always have a little instant gratification, that also feeds our desire for exploration and experimentation, thus keeping the IG from feeling like it was a complete guilty waste. Also when you do finally get something to the best it can be you get that sense of aforementioned accomplishment while at the same time you have some idea where you want to go from there because of those quick explorations. |
Reout Karaal
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:03:00 -
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Obviously you're wrong OP, because "having gun game" means having a PRO suit with 480HP shields and officer AR, that shreds everything to pieces before you even blink, while being nearly impossible to kill by STDs. You should get good or HTFU, whichever is easier for you, instead of trying to make life harder to dedicated players. Because no-lifing a game is like winning at life, only better, because no pants. For their efforts they should be able to stomp pub matches whenever they wish and make millions of SPs whenever they log in, they are completely worth it! CCP must see the light and follow through! /s
I'm for passive SP only. Lack of incentive? I will go with "I can shoot people in the face", but you can give me more loot and opt-in, configurable kill mail -> I would love to know if I got a lucky shot on one of the black suit bastardos and what was their loss in ISK/AUR. :) |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
317
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:53:00 -
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you do know there wasn't an SP reset with the last build??
people with proto gear have been here since October/November? |
Thranx1231
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:54:00 -
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Heavenly Daughter wrote: -- Stupid stuff cut out --
In just under 3 week since the new build, I already see Prototype weapon kills. That way they really could increase the latter SP earning so it feels less of a grind.
-- even worse more horrible stuff cut out -- You don't seem to realize that nobody lost their freaking Kitten Proto equip with this last build?
I saw proto kills that first couple of days. I had proto equip in stock and it was still there after the download. I didn't have enough SP to use all of them but I did in my primary weapon.
This time they will lose everything except bonus gear.
Now why don't you wait and see how the next few weeks go before trying to make the game not worth playing at all. |
Washlee
UnReaL.
131
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:54:00 -
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Go ahead and get your Proto suits and Proto AR
I'll blasting some new Assholes with my Tanks ^^
Exp is only fast if you play alot , I play alot but compared to some of those top ranking players I just scratch the surface. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:55:00 -
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LOL - guys stop posting in this thread - it was made in october and your arguing with facts from today. It's still a relevant thread - but a lot of the arguments no longer hold value. |
fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
211
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:56:00 -
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Reout Karaal wrote:Obviously you're wrong OP, because "having gun game" means having a PRO suit with 480HP shields and officer AR, that shreds everything to pieces before you even blink, while being nearly impossible to kill by STDs. You should get good or HTFU, whichever is easier for you, instead of trying to make life harder to dedicated players. Because no-lifing a game is like winning at life, only better, because no pants. For their efforts they should be able to stomp pub matches whenever they wish and make millions of SPs whenever they log in, they are completely worth it! CCP must see the light and follow through! /s
I'm for passive SP only. Lack of incentive? I will go with "I can shoot people in the face", but you can give me more loot and opt-in, configurable kill mail -> I would love to know if I got a lucky shot on one of the black suit bastardos and what was their loss in ISK/AUR. :)
you are confusing two separate things here........ which actually kinda makes you not only stupid but an *******.
while I agree that there are a lot of fail ass holes that run invicisuits in lieu of having skill, that has little to do with training time and more to do with balance. what heavenly says is right we skill to fast we get bored and stop playing. that said there are more then enough skill to keep you play for quite a while currently. if you stop after getting one suit one gun and the mod to fit it to proto you were not going to stick around for long anyways. That or your load out is broken as ****.
now if you argue that this is a matter training time and not balance then obviously you want to be one of these guys you hate so much, in which case you sir are a whiny little *****, I mean you are basicly complaining that you can be an ******* to new guys fast enough and its not fair that you have to spend the effort that those other guys did to get there.
but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt assume that you are just angry at how unbalanced the the equipment is right now and that you anger got the best of you.
if it makes you feel any better once we have more players CCP will probably disincentive running proto gear in matches for nubs in some creative way. |
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fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
211
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:57:00 -
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opps thank you soda pop i need to start checking that |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:57:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:LOL - guys stop posting in this thread - it was made in october and your arguing with facts from today. It's still a relevant thread - but a lot of the arguments no longer hold value.
I just had to give you props because All i could think about is how badly this "heavenly " wants to troll IT brings up something from October |
Michael Cratar
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
179
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:59:00 -
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Heavenly Daughter wrote:I understand that CCP wants players to be playing this game for YEARS to come, well they had better decrease the SP earning by a factor of 10 to get anywhere near that time span.
In just under 3 week since the new build, I already see Prototype weapon kills. That way they really could increase the latter SP earning so it feels less of a grind.
I half envisage everyone wearing militia gear for a year,.
Heavenly Daughter
People wearing militia gear for a year? You do know games are supposed to be entertaining right?
Right?! |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:04:00 -
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lol, in another thread I made this mistake and didn't check the date the thread was made. Been keeping my eye out on that since.
Really didn't think anyone would respond to this revived thread though - It's not like his idea has no merit - it's just this discussion is in other threads as well with details and facts to support arguments - not the personal biased opinions of one person.
But eh, keeps things fun around here. :D |
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