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Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.21 19:59:00 - [1] - Quote I know a lot of people, myself included, that hated this game initially but has grown a liking to it now. Even with all of its beta issues, we still enjoy the game. And there is much more to come...so what do you guys think? Will the playerbase be massive, moderate, or only "cult-numbers"??
Wicked Glory Doomheim 171	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:01:00 - [2] - Quote After November 12th no one will be playing this game. True story.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:04:00 - [3] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I know a lot of people, myself included, that hated this game initially but has grown a liking to it now. Even with all of its beta issues, we still enjoy the game. And there is much more to come...so what do you guys think? Will the playerbase be massive, moderate, or only "cult-numbers"?? cult numbers, less then mag imo
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:06:00 - [4] - Quote it'll grow
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:06:00 - [5] - Quote It'll all depend on how interactive this game feels. If it's just 'find a match and play' I can get that anywhere. If it's "Find a corporation and conquer the galaxy, build defenses from sandbox maps, and handle diplomacy/politics/tactics" then you'll find that many many will stick around. For me, it'll be about how they handle commanders and the RTS aspect of the game. If commands is nothing more then dropping turrets and giving small orders of objectives then running out onto the field himself, then I may as well of just stuck with MAG. But i guess this being Free almost guarantees that it'll have some success.
Jariel Manton SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 210	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:11:00 - [6] - Quote Over 9000!!!
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:14:00 - [7] - Quote RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow well why has it been shrinking then?
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:15:00 - [8] - Quote PDIGGY22 wrote: RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow well why has it been shrinking then? Cause beta sux. I haven't seen anything I'm looking forward to yet :(
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:17:00 - [9] - Quote People are still here after black ops 1 came out, they will be here after black ops 2 comes out. I will just figure thre will be a dip in player counts whenever a big shooter comes out. like there was for Boarderlands 2. I am sure Dust will be around to see a dip in player player count when black ops 5 comes out. There will be a lot of people that play dust, move to next game for mouth or two then return to dust. I figure it will start at cult levels of players and build overtime, opposite of most shooters that are big at release and go down. it will probably not be as big as most AAA console shooters and take years to grow, few years after launch 1/4 to 1/2 million would be good sized if count is rising and spending aur. if it launches with the same size player base as beta at peak it should be fine, about 40,000.
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:20:00 - [10] - Quote PDIGGY22 wrote: RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow well why has it been shrinking then? cause people have lives... there are new bugs that some just wont handle so they take breaks? could be alot of things. but it'll grow as people look for new stuff to play.

Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:21:00 - [11] - Quote low. not getting what we were promised - a hardcore teambased shooter. they seem to think a lot of their next build. lets wait and see. ps maps were meant to be dynamic too not the boring things weve seen the last few builds.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:43:00 - [12] - Quote RolyatDerTeufel wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow well why has it been shrinking then? cause people have lives... there are new bugs that some just wont handle so they take breaks? could be alot of things. but it'll grow as people look for new stuff to play. are people not going to have lives when it releases? Thats the problem with this game, it requires far too much dedication.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:44:00 - [13] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow well why has it been shrinking then? Cause beta sux. I haven't seen anything I'm looking forward to yet :( Everything ive heard/liked/wanted is all still on PAPER Thats not changing anytime soon. Infact someone tell me one instance where CCP changed the gameplay for the better from feedback?
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:47:00 - [14] - Quote I haven't seen much advertising on it or promotions either. Other shooters haven't heard of it yet. But if they hand it free with a ps3 purchase, that may help
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.21 20:58:00 - [15] - Quote PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow well why has it been shrinking then? Cause beta sux. I haven't seen anything I'm looking forward to yet :( Everything ive heard/liked/wanted is all still on PAPER Thats not changing anytime soon. Infact someone tell me one instance where CCP changed the gameplay for the better from feedback? They nerfed scout strafing speed....but I guess it depends who you ask if it is for the better
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.21 21:04:00 - [16] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow well why has it been shrinking then? Cause beta sux. I haven't seen anything I'm looking forward to yet :( Everything ive heard/liked/wanted is all still on PAPER Thats not changing anytime soon. Infact someone tell me one instance where CCP changed the gameplay for the better from feedback? They nerfed scout strafing speed....but I guess it depends who you ask if it is for the better no one complained about nerfing the strafe speed you can attribute that one to someone at ccp. what people wanted was for the scout hitboxes to be hitable, they blanket nerfed everything in sight and screwed over gamplay for a fix. bad move if they want to make a great game. that someone dosnt like working by the look of it, easiest and fastest fix there was, screw the game and screw the players, that's how i see it anyway. flip side sometimes they have to break stuff to make it beter, lets wait and see on this one.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.21 21:50:00 - [17] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow well why has it been shrinking then? Cause beta sux. I haven't seen anything I'm looking forward to yet :( Everything ive heard/liked/wanted is all still on PAPER Thats not changing anytime soon. Infact someone tell me one instance where CCP changed the gameplay for the better from feedback? They nerfed scout strafing speed....but I guess it depends who you ask if it is for the better they nerfed it because they dont have a clue how to make hit detection work on it, theyre incompetent
Jimbo Boilstaff Algintal Core Gallente Federation 83	Posted - 2012.10.21 22:09:00 - [18] - Quote RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow thats what she said! I think Cult to Moderate..... Possibly major if they release it at the right time (few months into next year in my opinion).... theres definately a massive appetite for this kind of game,,, trouble is there'll be a lot of players in the market soon
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2012.10.21 22:13:00 - [19] - Quote Quote: they nerfed it because they dont have a clue how to make hit detection work on it, theyre incompetent So you can do better? Awesome, sign up on the CCP team and get to work.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.21 22:29:00 - [20] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Quote: they nerfed it because they dont have a clue how to make hit detection work on it, theyre incompetent So you can do better? Awesome, sign up on the CCP team and get to work. or they can actually hire someone with more experience with FPS then the people they have, you know like good companies do.

Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.10.21 22:31:00 - [21] - Quote PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quote: they nerfed it because they dont have a clue how to make hit detection work on it, theyre incompetent So you can do better? Awesome, sign up on the CCP team and get to work. or they can actually hire someone with more experience with FPS then the people they have, you know like good companies do. They have several members from DICE. Atleast that is what I remember reading. So they do have outside help.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.21 22:34:00 - [22] - Quote Jimbo Boilstaff wrote: RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow thats what she said! I think Cult to Moderate..... Possibly major if they release it at the right time (few months into next year in my opinion).... theres definately a massive appetite for this kind of game,,, trouble is there'll be a lot of players in the market soon way to go out on a limb there, covering every possibility, BRILLIANT!
Tyrus Four 128	Posted - 2012.10.21 22:34:00 - [23] - Quote I predict that not a single solitary soul will play this game on release unless they raise the strafespeed until we are all running as fast as the Flash while holding down R1 and screaming "YOU CAIN'T AIM SCRUB!"
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.10.21 22:34:00 - [24] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I know a lot of people, myself included, that hated this game initially but has grown a liking to it now. Even with all of its beta issues, we still enjoy the game. And there is much more to come...so what do you guys think? Will the playerbase be massive, moderate, or only "cult-numbers"?? too early to tell tbh when it reaches open beta and we have a release date ill get back to u
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.21 22:35:00 - [25] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quote: they nerfed it because they dont have a clue how to make hit detection work on it, theyre incompetent So you can do better? Awesome, sign up on the CCP team and get to work. or they can actually hire someone with more experience with FPS then the people they have, you know like good companies do. They have several members from DICE. Atleast that is what I remember reading. So they do have outside help. DICE has as much hit detection knowledge as monkeys at the zoo
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.21 22:40:00 - [26] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I know a lot of people, myself included, that hated this game initially but has grown a liking to it now. Even with all of its beta issues, we still enjoy the game. And there is much more to come...so what do you guys think? Will the playerbase be massive, moderate, or only "cult-numbers"?? too early to tell tbh when it reaches open beta and we have a release date ill get back to u this. when i tested another game a couple of days before launch there wasnt any mobs in the 2nd area at all, not 1. Burning crusade released and zangramarsh was full. Lets hope they know where they are heading now and the peices of the jigsaw are falling into place.
Olav Grey-Mane The Exemplars 58	Posted - 2012.10.21 23:00:00 - [27] - Quote Wicked Glory wrote: After November 12th no one will be playing this game. True story. what's november 12th? I didn't read anything about the beta ending.
Heinz Doofenshertz BetaMax. 360	Posted - 2012.10.21 23:04:00 - [28] - Quote maybe he meant the 13th, thats when the new call of duty drops.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.21 23:05:00 - [29] - Quote 4 players. After the EvE super caps glass our battlefields. It'll be cerebral, and 3 of his goon firiends I'd imagine :p
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.21 23:10:00 - [30] - Quote Olav Grey-Mane wrote: Wicked Glory wrote: After November 12th no one will be playing this game. True story. what's november 12th? I didn't read anything about the beta ending. the end is nigh. some guy predicts it's the end of the world. that's when skynet takes over

Olav Grey-Mane The Exemplars 58	Posted - 2012.10.21 23:14:00 - [31] - Quote Heinz Doofenshertz wrote: maybe he meant the 13th, thats when the new call of duty drops. lol COD's a joke. Any ways, what about orbital strikes, is that what that other guy meant about something being glass over the battlefield?
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.21 23:27:00 - [32] - Quote Yeah I did mean OBs ect. But I was exaggerating :D Planetside 2 also comes out Nov 20th.
Sponge- Bob 40	Posted - 2012.10.21 23:39:00 - [33] - Quote All I am going to say is CCP WELCOME TO THE BIG LEAGUES
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.21 23:42:00 - [34] - Quote Sponge- Bob wrote: All I am going to say is CCP WELCOME TO THE BIG LEAGUES yeah you come a long way
Sponge- Bob 40	Posted - 2012.10.21 23:45:00 - [35] - Quote Lonewolf514 wrote: Sponge- Bob wrote: All I am going to say is CCP WELCOME TO THE BIG LEAGUES yeah you come a long way FANBOY ALERT, and BTW CCP is going to get destroyed in the big leagues
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.22 00:03:00 - [36] - Quote Sponge- Bob wrote: Lonewolf514 wrote: Sponge- Bob wrote: All I am going to say is CCP WELCOME TO THE BIG LEAGUES yeah you come a long way FANBOY ALERT, and BTW CCP is going to get destroyed in the big leagues not a fanboy, bet i been banned from here more times than you ;) i just remember when eve started and before then.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.10.22 00:12:00 - [37] - Quote PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow well why has it been shrinking then? Cause beta sux. I haven't seen anything I'm looking forward to yet :( Everything ive heard/liked/wanted is all still on PAPER Thats not changing anytime soon. Infact someone tell me one instance where CCP changed the gameplay for the better from feedback? One word,swarm launchers!
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.10.22 00:25:00 - [38] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I know a lot of people, myself included, that hated this game initially but has grown a liking to it now. Even with all of its beta issues, we still enjoy the game. And there is much more to come...so what do you guys think? Will the playerbase be massive, moderate, or only "cult-numbers"?? too early to tell tbh when it reaches open beta and we have a release date ill get back to u Yeah,this sounds about right. Not a whole lot of people want to play $20 just to play a beta,but once it's free for everyone,and not just PS+ members,we will have a better understanding. Now that being said,I'm very worried about the size of the playerbase.None of my friends on my friends list play the beta.The only friends that play are people that I met in Dust,so to me,that's kinda scary. The problem is that in general,most people are too dumb to really appreciate what CCP is going for,and they have no interest in it.Hopefully,in the next month or so,Sony will get off of there @$$3$ and put some marketing behind the game,or we will have another situation just like MAG,were so many people don't even hear of the game until it's out.The problem is in this case,if people hear about it too late,this is a going to be a game that's very unforgiving on latecomers and casuals,thus anyone that downloads it,will probably lose interest in it fast because they don't really understand it.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.22 00:40:00 - [39] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: RolyatDerTeufel wrote: it'll grow well why has it been shrinking then? Cause beta sux. I haven't seen anything I'm looking forward to yet :( Everything ive heard/liked/wanted is all still on PAPER Thats not changing anytime soon. Infact someone tell me one instance where CCP changed the gameplay for the better from feedback? One word,swarm launchers! making anti vehicle weapons useless didnt make it better
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 184	Posted - 2012.10.22 00:49:00 - [40] - Quote ccp fails to understand that good game play pulls people into an mmofps and the mmo aspects keeps them playing. CCP has neglected game mechanics in favor of cramming all the mmo aspects in as fast as they can. Its not like fps fans are going to play this game for the mmo aspects if the game play is crap. They will just go play a game that is fun. They really need to polish the fps aspects of this game if they want it to do well. It will have a cult following if the game play is still crap upon release.

Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.10.22 00:51:00 - [41] - Quote PDIGGY22 wrote: making anti vehicle weapons useless didnt make it better Did you even play back when they were giving away codes through PS Home? Obviously not,because you would remember people like Zitro running around in a scout fit and swarm launcher,using it EXCLUSIVELY as an anti personnel weapon.And then again in the next build,he along with many others,used remote explosives as a short range grenade. Though I will agree,they have nerfed the swarm launchers to hell now,though I've always felt that they were primarily supposed to be used as a surface-to-air weapon,and not a surface-to-surface weapon,meaning that they were supposed to be against dropships and not tanks.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.10.22 00:57:00 - [42] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: It'll all depend on how interactive this game feels. If it's just 'find a match and play' I can get that anywhere. If it's "Find a corporation and conquer the galaxy, build defenses from sandbox maps, and handle diplomacy/politics/tactics" then you'll find that many many will stick around. For me, it'll be about how they handle commanders and the RTS aspect of the game. If commands is nothing more then dropping turrets and giving small orders of objectives then running out onto the field himself, then I may as well of just stuck with MAG. But i guess this being Free almost guarantees that it'll have some success. I disagree. A lot of FPS players (myself included) just want to get in and shoot things. We don't want to get involved with all the clan/ corp drama. Since I'm here, and I am in a corp. I don't mind all the politics, as long as I'm not chosen to take part in it. I am a soldier, not a politician. I just want to shoot that guy that was told to shoot me.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.22 01:06:00 - [43] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: It'll all depend on how interactive this game feels. If it's just 'find a match and play' I can get that anywhere. If it's "Find a corporation and conquer the galaxy, build defenses from sandbox maps, and handle diplomacy/politics/tactics" then you'll find that many many will stick around. For me, it'll be about how they handle commanders and the RTS aspect of the game. If commands is nothing more then dropping turrets and giving small orders of objectives then running out onto the field himself, then I may as well of just stuck with MAG. But i guess this being Free almost guarantees that it'll have some success. I disagree. A lot of FPS players (myself included) just want to get in and shoot things. We don't want to get involved with all the clan/ corp drama. Since I'm here, and I am in a corp. I don't mind all the politics, as long as I'm not chosen to take part in it. I am a soldier, not a politician. I just want to shoot that guy that was told to shoot me. But honestly, the allure is everything but the gameplay. No other shooter is offering what dust will offer. That's why it has great potential to have a huge playerbase. Sure, cod fans will always be cod fans. But if they get the gameplay mechanics up to par plus the customization options.....this game should have a good base.
Salazar Skye-fire Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 85	Posted - 2012.10.22 01:27:00 - [44] - Quote F2P's pull in a strong playerbase because its free and ppl are cheap. number wise. it will be far bigger than MAG which will become the quiet minority in the population.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.22 01:34:00 - [45] - Quote Salazar Skye-fire wrote: F2P's pull in a strong playerbase because its free and ppl are cheap. number wise. it will be far bigger than MAG which will become the quiet minority in the population. F2P playerbase on the PS3 will not appreciate the complexity of this game. FAIL marketing. F2P is filled with little kids and idiots for the most part. When this game fails and you are holding down planets with a bunch of 12 year olds your gonna wish you had the mag playerbase back.
Salazar Skye-fire Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 85	Posted - 2012.10.22 01:37:00 - [46] - Quote PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quote: they nerfed it because they dont have a clue how to make hit detection work on it, theyre incompetent So you can do better? Awesome, sign up on the CCP team and get to work. or they can actually hire someone with more experience with FPS then the people they have, you know like good companies do. sometimes i wonder if you mag trolls are just brain damaged, if ccp releases a build and your not happy with it, and CRY for changes, it dones not get fixed the second you demand it fixed, no dev does that. product comes out you complain devs collect data start writing new code/modifying old lines compile code into a new build polish send into sony for stamp approval this **** can take anywhere between weeks to months to produce, in the process we have seen many changes in vast amounts of areas in the games like the recent tweaks to our skill and isk rewards on top of the new swag they keep adding so some skills have a purpose. devs have a common goal in builds they follow and focus their attention on they cant waste time on everything at the same time because there would be no progress. damn kids keep treating this game like a release date demo and your all to KITTEN stupid to realize that.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.22 01:41:00 - [47] - Quote Salazar Skye-fire wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quote: they nerfed it because they dont have a clue how to make hit detection work on it, theyre incompetent So you can do better? Awesome, sign up on the CCP team and get to work. or they can actually hire someone with more experience with FPS then the people they have, you know like good companies do. sometimes i wonder if you mag trolls are just brain damaged, if ccp releases a build and your not happy with it, and CRY for changes, it dones not get fixed the second you demand it fixed, no dev does that. product comes out you complain devs collect data start writing new code/modifying old lines compile code into a new build polish send into sony for stamp approval this ** can take anywhere between weeks to months to produce, in the process we have seen many changes in vast amounts of areas in the games like the recent tweaks to our skill and isk rewards on top of the new swag they keep adding so some skills have a purpose. devs have a common goal in builds they follow and focus their attention on they cant waste time on everything at the same time because there would be no progress. damn kids keep treating this game like a release date demo and your all to KITTEN stupid to realize that**. This guy is mad. Good job diggy. More duct tape ccp.
Salazar Skye-fire Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 85	Posted - 2012.10.22 01:43:00 - [48] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Salazar Skye-fire wrote: F2P's pull in a strong playerbase because its free and ppl are cheap. number wise. it will be far bigger than MAG which will become the quiet minority in the population. F2P playerbase on the PS3 will not appreciate the complexity of this game. FAIL marketing. F2P is filled with little kids and idiots for the most part. When this game fails and you are holding down planets with a bunch of 12 year olds your gonna wish you had the mag playerbase back. go away troll, you really dont know anything about what your talking about. what you just described was the COD playerbase. F2P thrives on its own there are several games out there older than EVE who rack in numbers bigger than your AAA games and they all have a robust population of all ages not just crybabies who are still severly butthurt that their favorite game in the entire world just went dead. welcome to reality, **** thrives or dies move on. wheres this MAG playerbase you guys keep chest thrumping about, last time i checked there wasnt over 300 of you on in all factions?
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.22 01:48:00 - [49] - Quote Salazar Skye-fire wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: Salazar Skye-fire wrote: F2P's pull in a strong playerbase because its free and ppl are cheap. number wise. it will be far bigger than MAG which will become the quiet minority in the population. F2P playerbase on the PS3 will not appreciate the complexity of this game. FAIL marketing. F2P is filled with little kids and idiots for the most part. When this game fails and you are holding down planets with a bunch of 12 year olds your gonna wish you had the mag playerbase back. go away troll, you really dont know anything about what your talking about. what you just described was the COD playerbase. F2P thrives on its own there are several games out there older than EVE who rack in numbers bigger than your AAA games and they all have a robust population of all ages not just crybabies who are still severly butthurt that their favorite game in the entire world just went dead. welcome to reality, **** thrives or dies move on. wheres this MAG playerbase you guys keep chest thrumping about, last time i checked there wasnt over 300 of you on in all factions? lol you are an idiot. Nobody plays mag anymore. It sounds like you are talking about F2P on the PC. F2P on the PS3 is filled with little kids. Honestly who is trolling. You sound really butthurt/mad.
Salazar Skye-fire Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 85	Posted - 2012.10.22 01:50:00 - [50] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Salazar Skye-fire wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quote: they nerfed it because they dont have a clue how to make hit detection work on it, theyre incompetent So you can do better? Awesome, sign up on the CCP team and get to work. or they can actually hire someone with more experience with FPS then the people they have, you know like good companies do. sometimes i wonder if you mag trolls are just brain damaged, if ccp releases a build and your not happy with it, and CRY for changes, it dones not get fixed the second you demand it fixed, no dev does that. product comes out you complain devs collect data start writing new code/modifying old lines compile code into a new build polish send into sony for stamp approval this ** can take anywhere between weeks to months to produce, in the process we have seen many changes in vast amounts of areas in the games like the recent tweaks to our skill and isk rewards on top of the new swag they keep adding so some skills have a purpose. devs have a common goal in builds they follow and focus their attention on they cant waste time on everything at the same time because there would be no progress. damn kids keep treating this game like a release date demo and your all to KITTEN stupid to realize that**. This guy is mad. Good job diggy. More duct tape ccp. no not mad at all but dealing with your dumb azz moon is an rum-related problem. just wish there was more in some of your heads then air.

Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.22 01:57:00 - [51] - Quote LOL now whos trolling? So you are drunk. No wonder you sound so ***** stupid. Go sleep it off. You can't call people stupid when you are already drunk and making yourself look like an idiot. Was there any point you were trying to make? Or are you just here to make yourself look stupid. dealing with your dumb azz moon is an rum related problem? Learn some proper grammar you stupid **.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.10.22 02:26:00 - [52] - Quote Salazar Skye-fire wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: Salazar Skye-fire wrote: F2P's pull in a strong playerbase because its free and ppl are cheap. number wise. it will be far bigger than MAG which will become the quiet minority in the population. F2P playerbase on the PS3 will not appreciate the complexity of this game. FAIL marketing. F2P is filled with little kids and idiots for the most part. When this game fails and you are holding down planets with a bunch of 12 year olds your gonna wish you had the mag playerbase back. go away troll, you really dont know anything about what your talking about. what you just described was the COD playerbase. F2P thrives on its own there are several games out there older than EVE who rack in numbers bigger than your AAA games and they all have a robust population of all ages not just crybabies who are still severly butthurt that their favorite game in the entire world just went dead. welcome to reality, **** thrives or dies move on. wheres this MAG playerbase you guys keep chest thrumping about, last time i checked there wasnt over 300 of you on in all factions? The MAG playerbase is like half dust beta's playerbase
Min Rei Rei 101st Space Marines 8	Posted - 2012.10.22 02:55:00 - [53] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: The MAG playerbase is like half dust beta's playerbase And the other half are EVE players like me. As for the player base, I would say there will be a very high turnover, as the F2P model invites tries by curious players, particularly Battlefield role-based players, for a try and gives them the good-old EVE grind-them-up-and-spit-them-out that will likely frustrate players more accustom to COD and Battlefield's pick-up and play multiplier. An interesting way to counter this may be to separate player-made corporations from starter-faction corporations in the random battle draws (or have an option to only join games with closer SP amounts for, say, the below 500k SP characters), theoretically separating the death squads of the player corporations and the random jumble of the lone players. There will be a small group of core players, just like in EVE, and a high turnover of new players trying the game. And for those saying "LOL COD": $775m in sales on just MW3 for the first five days after release. Gaming is a business, and the guys in the boardroom at Activision are lol-ing themselves to the bank.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.22 04:05:00 - [54] - Quote Salazar Skye-fire wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quote: they nerfed it because they dont have a clue how to make hit detection work on it, theyre incompetent So you can do better? Awesome, sign up on the CCP team and get to work. or they can actually hire someone with more experience with FPS then the people they have, you know like good companies do. sometimes i wonder if you mag trolls are just brain damaged, if ccp releases a build and your not happy with it, and CRY for changes, it dones not get fixed the second you demand it fixed, no dev does that. product comes out you complain devs collect data start writing new code/modifying old lines compile code into a new build polish send into sony for stamp approval this **** can take anywhere between weeks to months to produce, in the process we have seen many changes in vast amounts of areas in the games like the recent tweaks to our skill and isk rewards on top of the new swag they keep adding so some skills have a purpose. devs have a common goal in builds they follow and focus their attention on they cant waste time on everything at the same time because there would be no progress. damn kids keep treating this game like a release date demo and your all to KITTEN stupid to realize that. What first party deadlines is ccp under? I'm almost 100% sure sony gave them full control, they can work at the speed they want with no deadlines, thats why there has been multiple rumored release dates over the years. They have no motivation to make this game better in a short amount of time, LOOK at the very first video from 2009 and compare it to the latest videos of todays build and tell me these tiny changes should take 3 years! what a joke, this game has no chance at all. A game that does not allow players to play casually will NEVER EVER work on console or in the FPS genre
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.22 04:06:00 - [55] - Quote wheres this MAG playerbase you guys keep chest thrumping about, last time i checked there wasnt over 300 of you on in all factions?[/quote] lol you are an idiot. Nobody plays mag anymore. It sounds like you are talking about F2P on the PC. F2P on the PS3 is filled with little kids. Honestly who is trolling. You sound really butthurt/mad.[/quote] nobody cares about F2P on console
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2012.10.22 04:17:00 - [56] - Quote Quote: nobody cares about F2P on console Really? DCUO, no one cared? I'm done reading this thread, people think there opinions are facts. Have fun trolling each other.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.10.22 04:29:00 - [57] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Quote: nobody cares about F2P on console Really? DCUO, no one cared? I'm done reading this thread, people think there opinions are facts. Have fun trolling each other. DCUO has been super successful since going f2p, and it's the same genre as dust too
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.10.22 04:45:00 - [58] - Quote I was in a PS2 battle today that had the population of over 20 dust games at one time
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 262	Posted - 2012.10.22 05:03:00 - [59] - Quote Brahma El Indio wrote: I was in a PS2 battle today that had the population of over 20 dust games at one time nice dude. I bet it ran smoother too.
Brahma El Indio Bragian Order Amarr Empire 171	Posted - 2012.10.22 05:08:00 - [60] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: Brahma El Indio wrote: I was in a PS2 battle today that had the population of over 20 dust games at one time nice dude. I bet it ran smoother too. Much smoother. Sure it has some flaws, but I run a six core Xeon PC so performance wise, its awesome on my PC. I think you may want to play it once they add controller support after launch. How's your skills with the Xbox 360 controller? Regardless, its the most natural progression from MAG.....awesome stuff...

Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.10.22 12:00:00 - [61] - Quote Brahma El Indio wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: Brahma El Indio wrote: I was in a PS2 battle today that had the population of over 20 dust games at one time nice dude. I bet it ran smoother too. Much smoother. Sure it has some flaws, but I run a six core Xeon PC so performance wise, its awesome on my PC. I think you may want to play it once they add controller support after launch. How's your skills with the Xbox 360 controller? Regardless, its the most natural progression from MAG.....awesome stuff... That's because MAG was inspired by the first game.
Kaeralli Sturmovos KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2012.10.22 12:15:00 - [62] - Quote PDIGGY22 wrote: Salazar Skye-fire wrote: PDIGGY22 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quote: they nerfed it because they dont have a clue how to make hit detection work on it, theyre incompetent So you can do better? Awesome, sign up on the CCP team and get to work. or they can actually hire someone with more experience with FPS then the people they have, you know like good companies do. sometimes i wonder if you mag trolls are just brain damaged, if ccp releases a build and your not happy with it, and CRY for changes, it dones not get fixed the second you demand it fixed, no dev does that. product comes out you complain devs collect data start writing new code/modifying old lines compile code into a new build polish send into sony for stamp approval this ** can take anywhere between weeks to months to produce, in the process we have seen many changes in vast amounts of areas in the games like the recent tweaks to our skill and isk rewards on top of the new swag they keep adding so some skills have a purpose. devs have a common goal in builds they follow and focus their attention on they cant waste time on everything at the same time because there would be no progress. damn kids keep treating this game like a release date demo and your all to KITTEN stupid to realize that. What first party deadlines is ccp under? I'm almost 100% sure sony gave them full control, they can work at the speed they want with no deadlines, thats why there has been multiple rumored release dates over the years. They have no motivation to make this game better in a short amount of time, LOOK at the very first video from 2009 and compare it to the latest videos of todays build and tell me these tiny changes should take 3 years! what a joke, this game has no chance at all. A game that does not allow players to play casually will NEVER EVER work on console or in the FPS genre CCP isnt 1st party that would make them sony's brand they are 3rd party asking for spacific permissions in order to run their game and so far sony has OK'd that. but with every console game, there is a submission of info for DLC's, Patches, new builds, and other tweaks thats the ** that takes time. anybody fooled into how a game looks by a mere trailer or screenshot is just stupid, every single game puts that super high polish on it to make it better than it appears and of course its ran off a system that outperforms the console its intended for.
Lonewolf514 79	Posted - 2012.10.22 12:27:00 - [63] - Quote still false advertising. quite surprised they are getting away with it. all of them, they are all guilty of doing it.


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