Am I the only one with under 300k ISK? D:

You're forgetting something. It's not like fancy stuff is impossible to kill. And when you kill it, you get more ISK at the end of the match because what you killed was worth much more ISK. So, by killing spacerich people you can become spacerich yourself. This is how it sort of balances itself out.

Am I the only one with under 300k ISK? D:

Oh of course......

its ok to cheat, because if you kill me you can benefit too.....


this actually is market distortion and multiplies the dirty money in the economy (since that amount of isk shouldnt have been earnt)...... what starts as billions of illicit isk becomes trillions etc.....

Am I the only one with under 300k ISK? D:

I don't see how in the hell this could have ever happened .....its such bullshit.EVE players sending there ALTS millions if not billions of dollars.WTG CCP.
I dont know how many times I said it.An EVE player can do an INCURSION and get "hella Bank" and just give it to his DUST alt's corporation.......lol like you didnt know they were going to do this.
What about the guys that dont have EVE friends yet OR alternate accounts.You know the console players you wanted to bring in to New EDEN.........why fix it now.I was half way into deciding to get an EVE account so I could do the same thing.Isnt that what you want?For me to subscribe?So I can be on an equal footing?

Lol an rectify it?Really ?Damage is already done....Using ISK to recruit people as a sign on bonus.Millions of dollars per player....and whats that to them? A day of mining.

Why dont we just tell the truth.This game is DLC you decided to put on a console.Because you needed manpower.A stand alone DUST player .......even ZITRO will always just be a planet dwelling monkey looking for a hand out.A dust player could never form an empire or even hope to convince a EVE player to take a risk because from what i see.We DUST players will never be equal monetarily.Its just EVE players having minions....damn I shouldve known better.

I knew it was an exploit.

You're forgetting something. It's not like fancy stuff is impossible to kill. And when you kill it, you get more ISK at the end of the match because what you killed was worth much more ISK. So, by killing spacerich people you can become spacerich yourself. This is how it sort of balances itself out.

I don't see how in the hell this could have ever happened .....its such bullshit.EVE players sending there ALTS millions if not billions of dollars.WTG CCP.
I dont know how many times I said it.An EVE player can do an INCURSION and get "hella Bank" and just give it to his DUST alt's corporation.......lol like you didnt know they were going to do this.
What about the guys that dont have EVE friends yet OR alternate accounts.You know the console players you wanted to bring in to New EDEN.........why fix it now.I was half way into deciding to get an EVE account so I could do the same thing.Isnt that what you want?For me to subscribe?So I can be on an equal footing?

Lol an rectify it?Really ?Damage is already done....Using ISK to recruit people as a sign on bonus.Millions of dollars per player....and whats that to them? A day of mining.

Why dont we just tell the truth.This game is DLC you decided to put on a console.Because you needed manpower.A stand alone DUST player .......even ZITRO will always just be a planet dwelling monkey looking for a hand out.A dust player could never form an empire or even hope to convince a EVE player to take a risk because from what i see.We DUST players will never be equal monetarily.Its just EVE players having minions....damn I shouldve known better.

You're forgetting something. It's not like fancy stuff is impossible to kill. And when you kill it, you get more ISK at the end of the match because what you killed was worth much more ISK. So, by killing spacerich people you can become spacerich yourself. This is how it sort of balances itself out.

If you ask me, this ISK exploit needs to get sorted quickly. People who are against exploits and cheating are currently at a massive disadvantage to those who look for handouts and who receive ridiculous amounts of ISK.

Let us not forget this is still a beta, and this will no doubt get fixed. It's just something that shouldnt have arisen due to the fact that Corp vs Corp matches are beginning.

dust players will never be on even footing with EVE pilots.
the point of eve players having pocket dust corps is the point.

one mission can fund a dust player for a while and hell one hour of mining in null sec can fund an dust merc with proto everything for a while.

all i have to say is deal with it, that's the point.

Jesus, so much anger , this will happend when we go live just deal with it. the isk will find ways from EVE to Dust we might even get Plex in Dust also.

I have 400 000 isk in my wallet and I love my millitia gear, they still die you now. if you dont like it I am sorry but then this game is not meant for you...

Quit whining its not cheating. Are you gonna cry when the big alliances standing armies get a ton of isk in their wallet too?

Because most of YOU complained about AUR bought items in Dust and cried for nerfs.Why cuz you were already planning on doing this..........flooding your alt with the best ISK gear so you dont have to pay duel subscription.Pown everyone on console.Why would you want to have a console player be able to go to the market and instantly buy himself AUR and in that very same match Call in his Sigarus and work your ISK tank .You do a simple transfer of 30 million and buy 50 more.
What happened to the CASCADE or the STORM SIDE RODEN .You guys wanted it gone because it wasnt and ISK gun.Because you planeed on doing this all along.You think your so ingenious.......When they announced this game 3 years ago I almost created an EVE account that day for this very purpose.You just dont want DUST players to control there own game.That chaps your ass.

Holy **** guys, the tinfoil hat is STRONG with this one.

Ok check this out ass hat.Heres some raw statistical values that maybe you can rap your pee brain around.I convinced 4 of my friends to DL and try this game.Im the only one still playing it.Thats 1 in 5.Twenty percent of the people I know that have tried this game continued to play it.The other 75% were potential CCP customers now they are not.The learning curve is high enough.The bugs are bad enough.When the 5 point maps frame rate drops thru the floor and that makes them wreck there dropship.You know the same one it took him forever to afford.Oh wait no you probably dont understand that one.Without people finding ways to make it even more difficult for new players to get into this game.

You say its BETA .....fraking beta to be exact.They the 75 % dont fking care if its BETA or not and sure as hell wouldnt even care to come to these forums to argue with you about it.......what dont you get.When they go 2 times negative after playing in a match with 6 tanks.Yeah there gonna keep playing a game like that.You got it buddy.This game isnt just about the EVE player its about EXPANDING THE F8CKING PLAYER BASE.YOU KNOW POPULATING THE GAME.

In the 1980's the White House Office of Consumer Affairs
commissioned a report called the TARP study. The report revealed the
following facts about unhappy customers:
* 96% of dissatisfied customers do not complain directly.
* 90% will not return.
* One unhappy customer will tell nine others.
* 13% will tell at least 20 other people"

What does that mean to you?You, by doing stupid ****, are effecting CCP's potential customer base.So ask yourself. Are you helping to expand the community ,or do you not even give a F8ck.Like New Eden is exclusive to you.

Holy **** guys, the tinfoil hat is STRONG with this one.

As crazy as that rant sounds, there are a few valid points to be drawn from it. Quite a few of the EVE players act as if they should be able to dictate the rules and gameplay of Dust, constantly whining about how different the progression system works and such and complaining about anything that prevents them from taking everything they are sitting on in EVE and dropping it into Dust. That would be disastrous to anyone without an EVE account, which will likely be over 80% of the people who play this game. And if that happens, most of them will leave and then Dust will just be a game for EVE players who also happen to have a PS3.

This is a quote(copy and paste) from a recruitment thread"

We will first of all give access to a very solid Corporate Wallet, pretty much pouring ISK into your accounts to stay ahead of the curve and be the best that you can be.


Thats a sign on bonus.How am I going to compete with that.You also are forgetting that you saying that SISI ISK has 0 value means nothing to a noob who has no idea what your talking about.Well say some guy coming from BF3.What you just said means absolutely nothing to him.What he does see is match after match a negative kdr.You also knew Full well that winning the tournament will give you a rare Item/drop. I believe its a Lav of sorts.I havent looked if they canceled the tournament because of what some corps were transferring and therefore have stockpiles of equipment or if they wiped them and its still on.You guys new full well what you were doing you were looking for an advantage.One that you would benefit from.If one person from CCP had to work on correcting this crap you are wasting CCPs human resource that would be better served finishing the game.

A. They've trained the skills to use a better asset
B. They have the "skill" to actually use it properly
If those two factors are absent, all you have to worry about is having enough ammo to harvest them all for SP and ISK, because that's the only use they'll serve.

Your right Skill books bought with the millions of ISK you did not earn "in Matches".That are now unlocked.

That you still have to gain enough SP to train by killing people, which you can't do if you're incompetent.

That you still have to gain enough SP to train by killing people, which you can't do if you're incompetent.

by getting into militia tanks all day long.Because you have the ISK to do that...

A player using money to recruit and trying to fast forward your alt by using a (exp) 3 year old account and not having to grind with the rest of us is a clear advantage.

SP is still the other half of the equation that the rest of us will have to deal with. And there are more ways to get SP than killing. Buy a dropship and fly it around. You and everyone on board gets a 35 WP bonus for each kill. They shoot one down, hey look I still have millions of ISK to buy a nice stock of them! Not to mention front line fighters aren't the only ones who would do it, logistics players get most of their SP from hives, droplinks, revives and hacking. Now, do you really think that makes no difference?

You can still only buy militia vehicles without training the skills for them, and someone with the skills to use non-militia gear will take you down every time. Having seemingly limitless assets won't change anything when you're losing them so rapidly that EVE becomes your only means of funding because no one in their right mind will want you in their Corp. So you bankrupt your EVE character to spam ****** gear on your Dust character? Like I said before, anyone stupid enough to fit that description is just more income for you.

The isk you get for one of these pubbie deathmatches in beta is irrelevant. Balancing transfers between Eve players and their dust alts is not needed. When this goes live, if you are good at what you do, spacerich Eve players will be paying you to wreck ****.

dust players will never be on even footing with EVE pilots.
the point of eve players having pocket dust corps is the point.

one mission can fund a dust player for a while and hell one hour of mining in null sec can fund an dust merc with proto everything for a while.

all i have to say is deal with it, that's the point.

This isnt EVE.This is Dust. I buy AUR with money the same as you.This isnt a game of your pod pilot going planet side.

and you sure as **** arent going to call me your slave or your personal ass kisser.If thats your attitude your entitled to it.You sir Can go fk yourself.And like my black friend is prone to saying" I aint yo N****r.You got me fkd up".

Yes, you can only use militia vehicles. But if you have the money, then only getting one or 2 kills per launch isn't that big an issue. You could kamakaze it into a populated area and bail out, then just call in a new one.

Also, your point still ignores the ability to skill up playing as a logistics character. I play as logistics, and only usually get one or two kills a game because I keep myself busy repairing and reviving, setting up droplinks and nanohives, sometimes using installations for a few extra kills, and I end up in the top 3 most matchs, almost always in the top 5. SP isn't THAT hard to get if you know how to get it. If I had all the ISK I needed, I could easily soar through a large part of this game with almost no issues since I'm always defended by my squad since they rely on me for repairs and revives.

Don't listen to him, he's as wrong as you are.

Yeah but bro thats my whole point.This crap/attitude is repeated in post after post in EVE GATE.Leading me to believe that this Is really what you guys think.

I'm not sure at what point it was implied that Dust mercs would be on an even footing with Eve pilots...... isnt the whole point that we are mercs,,, and in situations like that would be relying on the Eve pilots to fund the wars (since we are fighting for them??

took me 5 days of constant grinding to get 200k :U

took me 5 days of constant grinding to get 200k :U

I know and thats BS.

Oh of course......

its ok to cheat, because if you kill me you can benefit too.....


this actually is market distortion and multiplies the dirty money in the economy (since that amount of isk shouldnt have been earnt)...... what starts as billions of illicit isk becomes trillions etc.....

This is what a moronic minority of "us" think. The same people that lobbied for Local chat to have a blinking effect that shows whenever anyone comes into a system because they want to be able to mine half afk with no risk. We don't like them anymore than you do.

All I have to say is Im a customer.Will spend alot more money on AUR probably in amounts comparative to your subscription fee wich you are no doubt finding some way to buy PLEX with.So you being an EVE player really has no consequence at all.Your money is no greener than mine.



#213 Posted: 2012.10.22 21:24 | Report
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I think what totally pisses me off about this whole issue is all the EVE players wanted nerfs to all AUR bought items in this game so that you could flood your own alts with readily available and easily attainable ISK from EVE.

and dont try to act slick..........HELMAR said in an interview that your pilot would not be able to go planet side.But tell me if you can simply transfer ISK from one alt to the other so you can buy infinite tanks and VK.0s and **** the DUST console player right?Then you the "operator" benefit the most.

I see how it is.....I would buy a 20 dollar AUR pack every 2 weeks for equal footing in THIS theater "planet side" and dominate here on the ground.A defacto subscription if you would.But you guys dont want that .OH NO.Cant have that.That would be to expensive to do both,so not being happy with that scenario you plot and congeal for nerfs to the AUR items in DUST all the while plotting to flood your alt with ISK....I mean some of you dont even have the originality and blatantly use the same gamer tag.

Same operator.Same tag.Same corp.Same cash................you're going planet side.Total bullshit.
Give me the ability to board your ship and Ill melee/ bust your augmented skull through your console.
You guys really wont be happy till you exploit the game to death.CCP is trying to break new ground and get new people into the EVE universe.I mean god forbid they make a game that might rival Halo or Cod,an with that capital make this WHOLE intire universe into a HUGE gaming community.Benefiting both DUST and EVE and you idiots want to wreck/kill it in the BETA stage.

Ok check this out ass hat.Heres some raw statistical values that maybe you can rap your pee brain around.I convinced 4 of my friends to DL and try this game.Im the only one still playing it.Thats 1 in 5.Twenty percent of the people I know that have tried this game continued to play it.The other 75% were potential CCP customers now they are not.The learning curve is high enough.The bugs are bad enough.When the 5 point maps frame rate drops thru the floor and that makes them wreck there dropship.You know the same one it took him forever to afford.Oh wait no you probably dont understand that one.Without people finding ways to make it even more difficult for new players to get into this game.

You say its BETA .....fraking beta to be exact.They the 75 % dont fking care if its BETA or not and sure as hell wouldnt even care to come to these forums to argue with you about it.......what dont you get.When they go 2 times negative after playing in a match with 6 tanks.Yeah there gonna keep playing a game like that.You got it buddy.This game isnt just about the EVE player its about EXPANDING THE F8CKING PLAYER BASE.YOU KNOW POPULATING THE GAME.

In the 1980's the White House Office of Consumer Affairs
commissioned a report called the TARP study. The report revealed the
following facts about unhappy customers:
* 96% of dissatisfied customers do not complain directly.
* 90% will not return.
* One unhappy customer will tell nine others.
* 13% will tell at least 20 other people"

What does that mean to you?You, by doing stupid ****, are effecting CCP's potential customer base.So ask yourself. Are you helping to expand the community ,or do you not even give a F8ck.Like New Eden is exclusive to you.