DUST Search - Exploting in the tourny

Cpl Quartz wrote:

i know the reasons, does that help me and others now we are behind weeks in sp, nit picking i know but that makes us extreemly competetive for the tourney doesnt it? like i said in post earlier they knew it was broke and said screw it and released the codex patch anyway - they knew there wouldnt be anyone there to fix it during national holidays in china. no way their q+a guys missed it. PC gamers who are willing to spend money on a console need to realize this. my point is this will be an ongoing thing with every improvment and patch in the game for years to come.

ive more or less decided to sell my console but someone but should speak up for the dedicated EvE players that actually went out (and will in the future) and spent money on a console with the intention of only playing using a keyboard and mouse, could have spent -ú270 on pc upgrades, anyway worked it out i wont lose much if i ebay now. now if lovefilm would jusy hurry and send me RE6 so i can finish that before i sell, save me having to endure yet another terrible console port to pc.


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DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.10.17 20:15:00 - [1] - Quote AV grenades don't go off unless a vehicle drives over them, thats the devs fault for not putting a timer on the grenades. Nanohives only give so many grenades, supply depots are endless. Again thats the devs not fixing a known issue. If they fix it by the tourny then thats that, but if not then its a fair option.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.10.17 20:23:00 - [2] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: AV grenades don't go off unless a vehicle drives over them, thats the devs fault for not putting a timer on the grenades. Nanohives only give so many grenades, supply depots are endless. Again thats the devs not fixing a known issue. If they fix it by the tourny then thats that, but if not then its a fair option. If they want to acknowledge it as an exploit, then abusing it would constitute cheating. They've already commented that it's unintended behavior and they're working to fix it, but it may not be possible without a patch, which won't come for a while due to QA and certification delays. Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's not cheating. Actually QA wouldn't need to touch it if its just a patch, only the large updates need QA testing. Until its stated as an exploit, its one players opinion vs another. Im on the fence both ways, to me they are just grenades you don't drive over. You can see them if you are not driving like a maniac. But if CCP comes out and either fixes it or stats its a cheat, then it is not one.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.10.17 20:27:00 - [3] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: I just realized a few days ago that this was possible, I always assumed the nades burned out after a few seconds. I'm loving the landmine use of them currently, until it is aknowledged as an exploit or cheat, I will continue to do it when I feel it's neccessary.. like when theres 4 or 5 LAV trying to circle the map and just run/mow us over, thats a landmine moment Agreed, its not like we can call 5 LAV's or 4 Tanks or 3 Dropships fair? Swarm launchers have issues, CCP has stated they are fixing them, so AV mines are the counter to this. Love it or hate it, it is what it is.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.10.18 15:32:00 - [4] - Quote Cpl Quartz wrote: offtopic but was thinking last night. it's taken this long to get a bug looked at what the hell is it going to be like EVERY time they patch or improve the game when it gets released (obviously q+a spotted it and they just released the codex build anyway, screw the kb/m player they are second class citizens). it's taking way too long to get patches and hotfixes out on this ps3 format. it's not like EvE where they can just hotfix it, that's what it seems like anyway. It's something every PC gamer/EvE player needs to know when considering purchasing a PS3 console. and it's not an issue of can't be bothered. game has been unplayable for weeks for some KB/M users. Two things happened in the last 30 days, one we had the Tokyo Show and then EU went on holiday for 1-2 weeks. From my few friends in EU, everyone goes on holiday at certain points in the year, unlike the US. Most of the time, if you look back there is a weekly adjustment to in game issues, but with these two events thats not been possible but they are back and are already in discussion about fixes, as posted in LINK which even states: "Hello everyone, we are back from our vacation and below is the list of bugs that the team examined this week" In that section is this for KBM: [BUG] Mouse sensitivity in Codex: too high Status: tracked, dev team working on a fix. also in the previous post in that section was this: "Dear players, The Shanghai office will be on holidays next week so there will be an hiatus on the weekly updates until OCT 16th. We will resume the weekly updates around that time. Thank you." So don't blame the devs on being on holiday and not doing weekly updates.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.10.18 18:56:00 - [5] - Quote Cpl Quartz wrote: i know the reasons, does that help me and others now we are behind weeks in sp, nit picking i know but that makes us extreemly competetive for the tourney doesnt it? like i said in post earlier they knew it was broke and said screw it and released the codex patch anyway - they knew there wouldnt be anyone there to fix it during national holidays in china. no way their q+a guys missed it. PC gamers who are willing to spend money on a console need to realize this. my point is this will be an ongoing thing with every improvment and patch in the game for years to come. ive more or less decided to sell my console but someone but should speak up for the dedicated EvE players that actually went out (and will in the future) and spent money on a console with the intention of only playing using a keyboard and mouse, could have spent -ú270 on pc upgrades, anyway worked it out i wont lose much if i ebay now. now if lovefilm would jusy hurry and send me RE6 so i can finish that before i sell, save me having to endure yet another terrible console port to pc. Behind in SP's its a beta, who really cares about a beta and SP's? Codex fixed tons and tons of things from the previous build, did it not? With every update you fix as much as you can, hope for the best and see what happens. The next build will do the same. Ill take Codex vs the E3 build, sorry but thats the truth. I don't miss restarting my game every other match. LOL, your comment about China cracks me up, dude now you are just being unrealistic about devs, again BETA not real game yet. Yes QA misses a lot of problems, you must be new to sony QA. As with Eve, with DCUO, with WOW and all games like it, its ALWAYS an on going process. Go look at WOW history they had far, far worse then this many times. Took 3 years to fix the Paladin class, FML.. KBM will be fixed, you are to impatient if you are going to sell your PS3 over issues in beta, seriously you are kinda acting like a spoiled brat, no offense but you are. Things take time, fixes take time. Patience my friend its a virtue. You need to get some.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.10.18 20:01:00 - [6] - Quote Cpl Quartz wrote: had a post forums swallowed it. broken game beta isnt the reason i decided to sell, game will never be hardcore enough for me. the way i see it heading i dont like what i see. im ont the best player in the world but i need something to push my limits. it doesnt do what other games havent done before it exept for the massive step they took to make this game o7 itll work. imo they are following the ties to eve too much and not making dust a ******* good game in it's own right. edit and my post about china was about a weeks holiday they have? why it would crack you up idk. maybe im wrong but it sounds like a bigger party than Amsterdam on a new years eve. Please don't think I don't appreciate what you are saying, I do. This is my 10th Beta game and I have learned that what you get in beta is never, never close to what we get when the game comes out. My fear is that you sell your PS3, then you come to find out the game is fraking amazing and you missed out. We are close to game release, I know you fear it will come to soon and have issue, but games now days come out this way. Example is DCUO the first 3 months were terrible, needed so much work, then the PSN hack happened and still after that it was bad, then server issues so bad you waited in line for hours to get in. While you think that would send players away, it didn't. I am under the impression you think if you think if comes out bad it will kill the game, but strangely it might not. Like you I want something thats new and hard. The reason why I don't play COD, BF and that sorta game, I need more then just the basic FPS. I think its coming, I think there is a chance what you and I need is coming. But we can't use Beta as the example, because we only see maybe 35% of the game so far. Ok, so in EU there is work time and holiday time, places in EU will shut down for holiday and everyone goes out and about, some countries (japan, finland, sweden) those vacations or holiday are mandatory. Wish we had that in the US, its been 5 years for a holiday for me. My advice, wait have some patience about this. Go play another game or take some time off. But wait to sell the PS3. Good chat, GTG back to work. DP