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Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:52:00 -
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Hi,
I was wondering where people put there early(ish) skill points. I kinda referring the ones after gunnery and range etc.
In EvE I tend to ensure I can fit everything first before trying to squeeze things in, so Engineering and Electronics makes sense, however I am really not very good at this game and a part of me says "why fit more expensive things when you are barely breaking even on skill-books and militia gear".
I'm just wondering where you put your skills. Also, if possible, can you please state your chosen play style and why you put the skills where you did.
Regards
Jax |
Kovinis Sparagas
Final Fortress Happy Tree Fiends
58
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:59:00 -
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I always tend to weaponry lvl 5 - it always helps |
Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:00:00 -
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As we are still in beta and have numerous wipes ahead, I wouldnt worry much about perfecting your characters build skillwise. Just train the minimum amount required to try new weapons, dropsuits, vehicles etc. Find what you like and have fun. Once the game goes live you will have a good idea where you want your character to go and what skills will help you most.
After upgrading your weapons and range, if you havent already learn the shield and armor skils to allow faster recharge and bigger hp. That way you can take a few more hits even in militia gear, giving you more chance of getting to cover where the extra recharge should help you recover quicker. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:08:00 -
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Shields Damnit |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:09:00 -
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Started out getting Weaponry up, early on stay away from level 5's
As i train more into better modules i train the fitting skills as i go. Normally at the start of the week i do one level 5 and then smaller skills the rest of the week. |
Atterro
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:14:00 -
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Since I find the base weapons sufficient I've been putting my skill points into survivability. Shield upgrades, drop suit command, caldari assault drop suit, ect. Of course if you want to go heavy armor you spec into armor and not shields, but I'm sure you got the gist of it lol |
mongo flash
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:14:00 -
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Lasers and vigor! You will be boss |
SGT Garrisson
On The Brink
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:15:00 -
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look into passive advantages
obvious skills
mechanic +5% to armor amount per lvl
armor upgrades -% reduction in pg usage of armor mods
dropsuit command -5% scan profile per lvl
shield operations +3% to shield recharge rate
shield upgrades 3% reduction in cpu usage of shield mods
shield management is a good one as its passive +5% to shield hp per lvl
other skills
profile dampening -5% sig radius per lvl
long range scanning +5% to scan range per lvl helps see enemys a bit earlier as u detect them further away
endurance +5% to stamina per lvl ( also unlocks abillity to use cardiac stimulant)
vigor +5% to stamina recovery per lvl
hacking +5% to hack speed per lvl
profile analysis -5% to scan precision per lvl
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Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:25:00 -
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go defensive or offensive? hmm good question , i pile on offensive skills first and play less aggresivley then add defensive so i can play how i like more. get most things to lvl 3 before really specializing. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:29:00 -
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Jax GG wrote:Hi,
I was wondering where people put there early(ish) skill points. I kinda referring the ones after gunnery and range etc.
In EvE I tend to ensure I can fit everything first before trying to squeeze things in, so Engineering and Electronics makes sense, however I am really not very good at this game and a part of me says "why fit more expensive things when you are barely breaking even on skill-books and militia gear".
I'm just wondering where you put your skills. Also, if possible, can you please state your chosen play style and why you put the skills where you did.
Regards
Jax
Depends on your gameplay. If you have played FPSs before you know what kind of gun you like. ARs or shotguns or HMGs. Long range or short. AV or AI. The second thing you need to see is whats your gameplay style;- bunny hop around, sit and snipe or be a fatty and run around.
Then decide on if you want to drive vehicles or fly dropshits!
Based on that let me know and I can guide you to your best options in terms of skill trees! |
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Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:35:00 -
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Dzark Kill wrote:As we are still in beta and have numerous wipes ahead, I wouldnt worry much about perfecting your characters build skillwise. Just train the minimum amount required to try new weapons, dropsuits, vehicles etc. Find what you like and have fun. Once the game goes live you will have a good idea where you want your character to go and what skills will help you most.
After upgrading your weapons and range, if you havent already learn the shield and armor skils to allow faster recharge and bigger hp. That way you can take a few more hits even in militia gear, giving you more chance of getting to cover where the extra recharge should help you recover quicker.
i wouldnt be too sure about that they are seeding TQ today so it wont be long till we are on there. thats 1 wipe. how many after we hit TQ is anyones guess. could be zero upwards. |
Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:43:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Depends on your gameplay. If you have played FPSs before you know what kind of gun you like. ARs or shotguns or HMGs. Long range or short. AV or AI. The second thing you need to see is whats your gameplay style;- bunny hop around, sit and snipe or be a fatty and run around.
Then decide on if you want to drive vehicles or fly dropshits!
Based on that let me know and I can guide you to your best options in terms of skill trees!
On a weird note, I'm trying to fly you in EvE right now (cool name).
So far in my Dust career I kinda liked Logi and am starting to like Assaults a little more, at least since I switch to the Tactical Rifle, which has significantly improved my aiming skills.
I am in now way skill enough to bunny hop and shoot, as I can barely shoot and find cover in time at this stage.
I've not really tried vehicles other than jumping some abandoned ones. I can certainly drive a jeep thingy around without crashing it, not sure if that makes me good or not.
But I think overall, I'll almost certainly end up a general merc or logi.
Regards
ps. Thus far I have put most of my points into Shields (regen and max), Armour, Gunnery and have started playing with sensor dampners, which seemed to me to work quite well in my last game. It might just just been luck, but I was managing to shoot people before they were able to respond, whcih I put down to not seeing me on the map......
pps. How do I test a dropship? is it cheap enough to try? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:53:00 -
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Jax GG wrote: So far in my Dust career I kinda liked Logi and am starting to like Assaults a little more, at least since I switch to the Tactical Rifle, which has significantly improved my aiming skills.
I am in now way skill enough to bunny hop and shoot, as I can barely shoot and find cover in time at this stage.
First, I would highly recommend you find a heavy or a bunch of heavies that you can roll with. I would recommend carrying a nanohive and a repair kit and/or nanite injector with you. This would be great to help the heavies. In addition you will have plenty of cover to take pot shots at people from behind a heavy. A heavy's weakness is long range. This is where you would come in and take out the dudes trying to take out the heavy.
Recommended skills: Weaponry Mechanics Light Weapon Sharp shooter Light Weapon Ugrade Nanohives level 1 Repair systems level 1
Jax GG wrote:
pps. How do I test a dropship? is it cheap enough to try?
You can buy the standard militia vipers or gorgons. No skill required here. I think they are about 130K a pop! Skirmish maps at the back are great to test them out.
If you need people to play with hmu on dust or add me psn: archangelfrmhell |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:56:00 -
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Whatever you want to do, you need money. So, start farming ISK. If you have AUR, that's perfect, you buy the BPOs items, and run full milicia.
With this fit, just up the "basics" skills : Shield Operation lvl4 --> Shield management, Mechanics, Weaponry, "Your weapon" Operation, Light/Heavy/Sidearm Sharpshooter (depend of your weapon again), maybe some rapid reload,
When you upped a little bit "Your Weapon" Operation to lvl3, run some AUR weapon, and try to fit it on your milicia. If you can't (and you won't be able ;)), up Electronics and Engineering, maybe some Light/Heavy Upgrade (to earn some CPU ;)).
And when you have more money, go look for the A-series dropsuit (for logi, it's just heaven ;))
Well, in general, this is my thoughts : don't use ISK till you get enough and have fun with it.... |
Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:30:00 -
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Thanks for the great replies..... and for the invite Archon.... I'm not on Mike yet as I am so bad I'd only embarrass myself.
Gloo - you mention farming ISK.
I don't want to farm anything, but making more than I do now would be great. Other than getting kills do you have any tips on making more ISK?
Regards
Jax |
Bubbles moon
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:33:00 -
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isk wise nothing above advanced is worth considering in most cases when your starting. Just like eve I think it's best put your skill points into support skills 1st.
You'll hit the cap soon, but you need almost all of your isk for skill books at the start so I would focus on making your militia fits better. So yeah weaponry to 4, fitting skills to 4, put some skill points into the stamina skills for longer sprinting. One of the biggest skills to aim for is the 2nd tier shield skill which gives shield hp per level.
Then while you get up your fitting skills I like to skill up to level 3 in 3 weapons. I went for sniper/mass driver/pistols.
Also I'm still saving up to finish buying all of my support skills :P So it'll take you some time. |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:41:00 -
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Jax GG wrote:Thanks for the great replies..... and for the invite Archon.... I'm not on Mike yet as I am so bad I'd only embarrass myself.
Gloo - you mention farming ISK.
I don't want to farm anything, but making more than I do now would be great. Other than getting kills do you have any tips on making more ISK?
Regards
Jax
When I say "farming", it means : don't play with ISK items, but with BPOs, AUR items, or starter fits !!!
I'm not a farmer the way you were thinking |
Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:43:00 -
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Bubbles moon wrote:Also I'm still saving up to finish buying all of my support skills :P So it'll take you some time.
Yup.... ran out of ISK trying to purchase Light Weapon Upgrades (or something like that).
I've read a few times now about purchasing BPO's. How do I do this and where do I find them? I have Aurum. |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:46:00 -
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Jax GG wrote:Bubbles moon wrote:Also I'm still saving up to finish buying all of my support skills :P So it'll take you some time. Yup.... ran out of ISK trying to purchase Light Weapon Upgrades (or something like that). I've read a few times now about purchasing BPO's. How do I do this and where do I find them? I have Aurum.
Milicia Gears on the market : find AUR items in the menus
And make more ISK ? As a logi, it's so simple : put nanohives, medic, repair (it seems that you're not earning any WP, but ISK maybe, I think so...), make assistance, keep a heavy back, let him go forward and get ennemie's bullets. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.10.16 17:35:00 -
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early sp in my mind should go into
weaponry - mechanics - engineering - electronics, and type 2 suit. from there specc it up into what you like |
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Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:11:00 -
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Jax GG wrote:Bubbles moon wrote:Also I'm still saving up to finish buying all of my support skills :P So it'll take you some time. Yup.... ran out of ISK trying to purchase Light Weapon Upgrades (or something like that). I've read a few times now about purchasing BPO's. How do I do this and where do I find them? I have Aurum.
meeow, i bet your the biggest shark in this tank. cp make it a valid corp agian |
Lavirac JR
DUST University Ivy League
129
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:13:00 -
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Depends on what you want to do. If you want to get close in and kill crap, I suggest Mechanics ASAP as it is easy to get and gives you an armor bonus. You should get Armor Upgrades so you can use armor plating in your low slots. I run militia gear basically with Mechanics 3 and just run around capping people with a militia shotgun. (I have ZERO points toward shotgun usage, only weapons 5) As I learned how to use Shotguns effectively, my KD ratio keeps heading towards 1, as I am now getting more kills than deaths in matches.
My favorite suit's setup is a militia assault suit with 2 militia shield extenders, a militia armor plate, a militia shotgun, a toxin SMG, militia locus grenades, and a militia nanite injector. This allows me to run and gun rather effectively, if you avoid open fields and giving AR's the distance.
My filling skills are electronics & engineering at 3 and Shield & Armor Upgrades at 2,
So if you want to follow my footsteps, I suggest Mechanics 3 t least and then some fitting skills so you can fit two shield extenders and armor plate. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:19:00 -
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mongo flash wrote:Lasers and vigor! You will be boss i only just got it. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:27:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:early sp in my mind should go into
weaponry - mechanics - engineering - electronics, and type 2 suit. from there specc it up into what you like
stevie b alt? |
Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:29:00 -
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Lavirac JR wrote:Depends on what you want to do. If you want to get close in and kill crap, I suggest Mechanics ASAP as it is easy to get and gives you an armor bonus. You should get Armor Upgrades so you can use armor plating in your low slots. I run militia gear basically with Mechanics 3 and just run around capping people with a militia shotgun. (I have ZERO points toward shotgun usage, only weapons 5) As I learned how to use Shotguns effectively, my KD ratio keeps heading towards 1, as I am now getting more kills than deaths in matches.
My favorite suit's setup is a militia assault suit with 2 militia shield extenders, a militia armor plate, a militia shotgun, a toxin SMG, militia locus grenades, and a militia nanite injector. This allows me to run and gun rather effectively, if you avoid open fields and giving AR's the distance.
My filling skills are electronics & engineering at 3 and Shield & Armor Upgrades at 2,
So if you want to follow my footsteps, I suggest Mechanics 3 t least and then some fitting skills so you can fit two shield extenders and armor plate.
I'll check this out this evening. I know I have Mechanics three and my shield regen and max shield are at 4 I think. So, I should be tanky(ish).
Will need to look at Shotgun though, my targeting sucks. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:33:00 -
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whatever, make the game fun and challenging no one will give a ****. |
Miss Practice
30
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:20:00 -
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Jax GG wrote:Hi,
I was wondering where people put there early(ish) skill points. I kinda referring the ones after gunnery and range etc.
In EvE I tend to ensure I can fit everything first before trying to squeeze things in, so Engineering and Electronics makes sense, however I am really not very good at this game and a part of me says "why fit more expensive things when you are barely breaking even on skill-books and militia gear".
I'm just wondering where you put your skills. Also, if possible, can you please state your chosen play style and why you put the skills where you did.
Regards
Jax
I think the first question you need to ask yourself is how you are going to make your skill points/isk moving forward.
If you want to do it by killing, i would recomend the AR.
So
A kill gives you 50 warpoints.
AR operation III Light weapon sharpshooting II/III Light weapon capacity II Light Weapon rapid Reload II
Weaponry IV/V and whatever suit you are planning on running to II.
Plus defensive skills.
IF warpoints is your game then you need to figure out which way you want to go:
Nanohives give you 20-15 warpoints on use. Nano injectors gives you 60 warpoints on use Drop Uplinks give you 25 warpoints on use.
Nanohives and Nano Injectors use the same skill: Nanocircutry
You will also probably need some survivability skills. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:22:00 -
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Miss Practice wrote:Jax GG wrote:Hi,
I was wondering where people put there early(ish) skill points. I kinda referring the ones after gunnery and range etc.
In EvE I tend to ensure I can fit everything first before trying to squeeze things in, so Engineering and Electronics makes sense, however I am really not very good at this game and a part of me says "why fit more expensive things when you are barely breaking even on skill-books and militia gear".
I'm just wondering where you put your skills. Also, if possible, can you please state your chosen play style and why you put the skills where you did.
Regards
Jax I think the first question you need to ask yourself is how you are going to make your skill points/isk moving forward. If you want to do it by killing, i would recomend the AR. So A kill gives you 50 warpoints. AR operation III Light weapon sharpshooting II/III Light weapon capacity II Light Weapon rapid Reload II Weaponry IV/V and whatever suit you are planning on running to II. Plus defensive skills. IF warpoints is your game then you need to figure out which way you want to go: Nanohives give you 20-15 warpoints on use. Nano injectors gives you 60 warpoints on use Drop Uplinks give you 25 warpoints on use. Nanohives and Nano Injectors use the same skill: Nanocircutry You will also probably need some survivability skills. hallow.
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fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:35:00 -
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Do shot guns work ok this build then ? |
Jax GG
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:56:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:Do shot guns work ok this build then ?
Other than confirming I get shot a lot by them, I'm not sure |
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