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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.16 11:00:00 -
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[CURRENT STATE OF THE MASS DRIVER]
Right now the mass driver basically functions as just a grenade launcher that mainly works in close range because targeting long ranges can be very difficult, but I think that is a waste since the grenades have the potential to reach much greater distances than they are typically used in. There are great possible applications for this weapon that can greatly improve its usefulness to the team, and make it more versatile to allow different playstyles.
[PROPOSED NEW "MORTAR" FUNCTIONS]
Aiming down sight should be removed, and replaced by some sort of targeting system for mortar-style artillery fire for long range support.
Targeting option 1: That targeting system can be an augmented reality launch arc that shows an estimate of where the mass driver grenades will land; firing the mass driver should be impossible when using the targeting arc terminating at close to mid range to prevent abuse in close to mid range.
Targeting option 2: A large 3D hologram projects out from the player's arm screen (the one that shows up when hacking), or as augmented reality 3D map taking up half of the dropsuit's vision (and making the user vulnerable as a tradeoff). This should show the currently spotted red dots while the player holds the mass driver with the other hand, and the hologram would show approximately where the mass driver grenades will land if fired with a marker.
Option is more favorable since obstructions could block the line of sight to enemies when using the arc.
While in the "artillery mode", the mass driver should fire all rounds in the magazine at once as a scattering cluster near the spot highlighted by the targeting system. This would help cover a wide area of effect (useful for groups, and moving targets), but would have the drawback of having to reload with every shot.
[IMPLEMENTATION]
Option 1: All mass drivers could get this secondary function.
Option 2: A new "artillery" variant of the assault rifle could be added for these long range functions. Such a variant could have low splash damage, but have a higher splash radius to make up for innacuracy, and target movement.
[WHY THIS WOULD BE GOOD]
Makes the mass driver useful beyond just being a "noob tube" by offering a new support role.
Great for supporting allies.
More long range combat variety.
It would depend on teamwork since only spotted enemies would appear in the targeting system, so the user will have to rely on teammates to spot enemies to target.
[WHY ITS NOT OVERPOWERED]
It would only be useful for dealing with long range large groups as support fire since grenades travel slow, and targets tend to be mobile making it unlikely to get kills.
The targeting would be imperfect, so a chance of landing hits on someone consistently would be low (especially direct hits).
TL;DR: Its not much, just read. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:02:00 -
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Why not just have a mortor side arm and leave the mass driver as is |
Governor Odius
Doomheim
177
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:21:00 -
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I'm holding out for artillery turrets on vehicles. Especially if you can coordinate with forward placed infantry to get a good firing solution. |
SGT Garrisson
On The Brink
60
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:49:00 -
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Avenger 245 wrote:Why not just have a mortor side arm and leave the mass driver as is
if a mortar was put in game id expect it would be a heavy weapon available to heavy suits only
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:09:00 -
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Avenger 245 wrote:Why not just have a mortor side arm and leave the mass driver as is
Would it make the mass driver overpowered or have a negative effect I'm not considering? |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:44:00 -
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anyone ever tried to fire Mass Drivers vertically ?
yeah it's dumb but i'm actually really curious  |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:35:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:anyone ever tried to fire Mass Drivers vertically ? yeah it's dumb but i'm actually really curious
I think i tested that kind of stuff but forgot, but I haven't tried that kind of stuff since the Mass Driver was first introduced. I'm going to try it again when i get home. |
Lead Squall
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
54
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Posted - 2012.10.16 17:35:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:anyone ever tried to fire Mass Drivers vertically ? yeah it's dumb but i'm actually really curious
Yeah, the grenade seems to explode before hitting the ground |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
136
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Posted - 2012.10.17 17:03:00 -
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Yes, this would cause an imbalance. Who plays with the mass drivers? Do we want them frontline or behind the line of fire?
Snipers already get some haten' just because they are not up front helping everyone else, I would hate to see another player fall into this role and further deplete the needed manpower on the front lines.
Besides, these are not even as powerful as grenades. We want real mortars, wait for the update with them - I know you're excited, me too, but we just should wait. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.11.03 09:26:00 -
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Hopefully there will be some sort of heavy weapon scifi artillery weapon in the future (like electrified rounds causing a AoE stun in the blast radius).
@ RedBleach LeSanglant: not being in front lines =/= not helping the team. Kills send dangerous enemies back to the spawn, allowing teammates to advance. This wouldn't be nearly as precise or rage worthy as sniper rifles. |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.11.03 15:09:00 -
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Have any of you played against Kaughst? That guy and his protoype can kill you anywhere on the map. I hate the mass driver cause its so destructive. If there was a reload in between each grenade (LIKE IT SHOULD BE) then it would be cool. But popping 4 out like it does with the splash damage that it has....is devastating. |
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