raise it to the damn ceiling.

please. i'm begging you.

that way we can move on and talk about other things in this forum, rather than 50 thousand "waaaaah this game is boring slow campfest even though I really don't know what camping is" threads and every other thread devolving into a strafe speed argument.

CCP, just raise the strafe speed. raise EVERYONE'S speed, moving, sprinting, strafing, reloading, shooting, driving raise it all to the ceiling.

for every suit.

don't worry about anything else, just make the game as fast as you can possibly make it.

hurry up and do that. asap.

give us the super-fast arcade shooter that everyone wants and everyone claims that you wanted to make.

I just hope that if/when they do raise the strafe speed, that the whining will cease and the rest of us can finally enjoy the game.

Yes, this is like beating a dead horse, now, two weeks into this build.

But in a game meant to out last the PS3 it deserves as much attention as it gets in these forums.

Just to reconfirm my impressions of slow left analog movement, I got over to a quiet section of the map in a scout suit. I ran, I jogged, I walked forward. Then I used the left analog stick to move my character side to side. The difference is absurd. The side to side movement is a slow lumber that not even an aging, out-of-shape fat man like me would envy.

It is just really poor in game movement. It isn't in keeping with the already slow movement your character is otherwise capable of.

If they want to keep a lid on side to side strafing and circle strafing they could make moving sideways and successive left to right movement deplete the stamina bar like running, or make it so that your character slows over time. But the base movement speed with left analog is really almost laughable. Just on a basic moving object with controller in a game level.

I keep hearing "raise strafe speed". You know there's more to movement & combat than having a single "fast" strafe speed.

Give us variety. Give us options.

Less ballet, more dodgeball.

raise it to the damn ceiling.

please. i'm begging you.

that way we can move on and talk about other things in this forum, rather than 50 thousand "waaaaah this game is boring slow campfest even though I really don't know what camping is" threads and every other thread devolving into a strafe speed argument.

CCP, just raise the strafe speed. raise EVERYONE'S speed, moving, sprinting, strafing, reloading, shooting, driving raise it all to the ceiling.

for every suit.

don't worry about anything else, just make the game as fast as you can possibly make it.

hurry up and do that. asap.

give us the super-fast arcade shooter that everyone wants and everyone claims that you wanted to make.

These or all good ideas but if you look at the base speed with the left analog stick when moving sideways it is not in keeping with the general move speed (which is already somewhat slow) across the board. I don't want to dodge bullets, I just want movement speed to be consistent and believable. But the the abrupt change from moving forward to moving left or right is really heavy handed and just generally poor movement on a very basic level.

Even in a dodge ball sim, with the ability to dive, roll, duck, jump, whatever the current slow left or right movement while facing forward would be agonizing. Because you use that movement to establish position before aiming to throw or dodge. Going from a turgid waddle to duck or dodge does frosting to the problem, but doesn't solve it.

I guess it's all down to peoples preferences because the last build was just boring and ****** me off constantly, the fact the scout suit could repeatedly kill a heavy by himself in close combat made no sense.

But yeah, sure buff the speed, let the scouts kill EVERYTHING again.

Straffing will be useless anyways once webifier mods are implemented.

apparently thats how CCP wanted the game to be from day one,

but..but...but....GUNGAME.....

so when a Scout ballet-dances around a Heavy so fast that the heavy can't turn and track him....this means the heavy has no gungame? or what?

LOL all it takes is a few sprays to splatter a scout with an hmg.

this assumes that all Heavies use a HMG.

that said, scouts do die very quickly.

LoL scouts.
More strafe speed.

but..but...but....GUNGAME.....

Stand up and find a hallway. Walk briskly down the hallway, then turn 90 degrees and strafe down it instead (walking speed), then turn 90 degrees back the way you were and run down the hallway, then turn 90 degrees again and strafe down it as fast as you can.

The speed you're wanting to get out of strafing is a running strafe, not a walking strafe. The strafe speeds need to be defined for each of the suits clearly, and then we need to have the ability to "run" while strafing to get an authentic feel for movement.

I'm not saying we shouldn't have the ability to strafe more quickly, but it should be exhaustive when doing it and that would help make even more diverse builds that much more playable as well as increasing the value of skills like stamina regeneration.

so when a Scout ballet-dances around a Heavy so fast that the heavy can't turn and track him....this means the heavy has no gungame? or what?

basically, the way CCP designed the game, a Heavy should never be able to hit a Scout at all. right?

I'm asking because I started playing with the Precursor build, so I don't know how it was before then.

raise it to the damn ceiling.

please. i'm begging you.

that way we can move on and talk about other things in this forum, rather than 50 thousand "waaaaah this game is boring slow campfest even though I really don't know what camping is" threads and every other thread devolving into a strafe speed argument.

CCP, just raise the strafe speed. raise EVERYONE'S speed, moving, sprinting, strafing, reloading, shooting, driving raise it all to the ceiling.

for every suit.

don't worry about anything else, just make the game as fast as you can possibly make it.

hurry up and do that. asap.

give us the super-fast arcade shooter that everyone wants and everyone claims that you wanted to make.

raise it to the damn ceiling.

please. i'm begging you.

that way we can move on and talk about other things in this forum, rather than 50 thousand "waaaaah this game is boring slow campfest even though I really don't know what camping is" threads and every other thread devolving into a strafe speed argument.

CCP, just raise the strafe speed. raise EVERYONE'S speed, moving, sprinting, strafing, reloading, shooting, driving raise it all to the ceiling.

for every suit.

don't worry about anything else, just make the game as fast as you can possibly make it.

hurry up and do that. asap.

give us the super-fast arcade shooter that everyone wants and everyone claims that you wanted to make.

Your thread is as relevant and usefull as a pig s.h.i.t.... (yeah after all, being insultant doesnt seem to be of any risk so why bother...)

Try and read before spitting non-sense in a brand new thread that brings nothing good in the discussions... Yes there's a debate around the strafe speed. And it's not all "i want all arcade shooter". It's about having an actual meaning regarding suits mobility ! Cause it s not all about the sprint speed, it's also about dodging and making things more difficult for your opponent in a gunfight.

I just hate this kind of behavior of people who have obviously red NOTHING about what people said and just come complain and make huge over-statement about what people suggest regarding the gameplay.

You dont belong in a beta process kid.

this is what Dust needs to be in order to not be a "boring campfest".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlfdeVVCnBI

scout is suddenly a brick when strafing. it is less skill & tactics involved now compared to last build.

How there's more skill and tactics when scouts' winning move would always be to get close and strafe around??

I had no issue killing full proto scouts in standard assault suits and AR. I can but you cant? so where is the skill involved? now you have your answer.

no