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Dirty Zan
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Posted - 2012.10.13 20:43:00 -
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Cpl Quartz wrote:he's right and he's being honest. if ccp would rather listen to you lot in IRC so be it. it's certainly showing in the game quality. keep telling them there's nothing wrong see where it'll end up.
Its not irc, CCP listens to the constant cries on these forums. People cried about tanks so they got a huge nerf, they also cried about dancing scouts so strafing was nerfed, and so on. |
Cpl Quartz
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Posted - 2012.10.13 20:51:00 -
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dance all they like as far as im concerned just make them hittable at the ranges they should be hittable and noone on these forums asked for a reduced strafe you can attribute that to CCP lets just say employees that think that it's acceptable to solve a problem by compromizing game quality. tanks did need something doing about them.
and it is IRC, what happened last build when people in IRC whined about the isk gain because they were too **** to stay alive long enogh to make a suit pay for itself? yep you guessed it CCP hotfixed (the very next day, shows exactly how much thought that went into the changes and consequences) and gave absolutly no thought about the work that had gone into balancing up to that point. and let's not even go there if we were talking long term damage that them changes would have caused newbie etc later in the game. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.13 20:53:00 -
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tanks, the same as precision strikes, did not need such a massive nerf.
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xeto rak
Epidemic.
Space Immigration
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:14:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:Take the speed of the gameplay back up to replication. I'm tired of playing this honey boo boo camp in corner (COD STYLE) BS CCP calls DUST. I thought Zipper were a bunch of bad devs but CCP takes the crown.
Loser statement, cause this game is still in BETA. You bet it will be great for the official release... Just go chill somewhere until you cool down and reflect about your statements... basically grow up. |
ReGnUM STBslayer DEI
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
158
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:15:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:RND Avc6700 wrote:Play another game if you don't like this one. That's actually why there's other games out there. You act like CCP is forcing to play this beta privilege. Either quit playing or wait til release to Cry about the game but til then have a coke and a smile and Shut the **** up . This is discussion forums not crybaby **** an whine forums. Sony hand selected me to test this beta back during the private trials (before the EVE players even got into it) and when i've seen this game go to **** of course i'm going to voice my opinion. Hand selected by sony my ass. It don't work like that... Walhalla Senior High School right?.... As you ignored me other question. My friend knows you.
Cerebral =Ultimate E-THUG
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Cpl Quartz
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:21:00 -
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mittani tactics there. now if that guy does live there he needs to contact his local police dept tbh and contact eve support. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:24:00 -
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Funny that, i chat with Mittani daily. |
Cpl Quartz
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:27:00 -
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never would have guessed, just finished watching the fanfest vid, are you as much of a douchebag as him? i'll answer it for you yes or you wouldnt keep people like that company. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:29:00 -
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Now you're telling me you've never done something silly while drunk?...
I'm setting things up in Dust so he can take over once it's all running and Dust enters Nullsec. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:30:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:tanks, the same as precision strikes, did not need such a massive nerf.
Lies. Tanks are fine the way the are (AV grenade minefields ignored). Not sure about OBs. IMHO, depends what's firing. Until we know what EvE weaponry/ship correspondes to which OB. Precursor strikes were ok IMHO. Provided they don't dominate like before the hotfix.
Dust needs UT style gameplay. Unreal engine. End of. |
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
158
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:32:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Funny that, i chat with Mittani daily.
Cerebral I was going through my DUST footage, and I have this great clip of me turning on you no shield.
I can't wait until this NDA gets lifted because your gonna be my opener.
Hope GOONS don't watch YOUTUBE |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:34:00 -
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You really think that based on the last build that tanks are fine? I don't fly tanks, i play AV and i think Tanks are too weak... It's just my opnion as a AV player.
OB's was very nice in the precursor build i thought that too, they have moved them up a rank or two in power though and that made them too powerful with the WP farming.
I think if they had done either the WP change or raised the WP needed for a OB things would be fine but they did both and its a bit much i think. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:35:00 -
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ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Funny that, i chat with Mittani daily. Cerebral I was going through my DUST footage, and I have this great clip of me turning on you no shield. I can't wait until this NDA gets lifted because your gonna be my opener. Hope GOONS don't watch YOUTUBE
Hey i don't mind.
I never claimed to be good! I'm better at the running of a corp than i am the shooting.
I'd like to see it though! |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:45:00 -
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Just remember while you play AV you are the direct counter to Tanks. So they probably do seem a bit weak, but while you are in AV, you are weak vs Assault dudes. Balanced composition is really important.
But not as important as this game playing like unreal. |
RND Avc6700
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:45:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Funny that, i chat with Mittani daily. Cerebral I was going through my DUST footage, and I have this great clip of me turning on you no shield. I can't wait until this NDA gets lifted because your gonna be my opener. Hope GOONS don't watch YOUTUBE Hey i don't mind. I never claimed to be good! I'm better at the running of a corp than i am the shooting. I'd like to see it though!
For a Goon You ain't too bad. I look forward to reading more of your articles. |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:50:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Funny that, i chat with Mittani daily. Cerebral I was going through my DUST footage, and I have this great clip of me turning on you no shield. I can't wait until this NDA gets lifted because your gonna be my opener. Hope GOONS don't watch YOUTUBE Hey i don't mind. I never claimed to be good! I'm better at the running of a corp than i am the shooting. I'd like to see it though!
Me too =) |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:52:00 -
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I'm doing really badly tonight because i've just got my main suit up how i like so i've got loads of "bits" all over the place i'm trying out and seeing how they work.
The Raven Assault suit is actually quite a nice suit i think |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2012.10.13 23:41:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:You really think that based on the last build that tanks are fine? I don't fly tanks, i play AV and i think Tanks are too weak... It's just my opnion as a AV player.
OB's was very nice in the precursor build i thought that too, they have moved them up a rank or two in power though and that made them too powerful with the WP farming.
I think if they had done either the WP change or raised the WP needed for a OB things would be fine but they did both and its a bit much i think.
Fun Fact:
Armor HP receive 30% additional damage from Missiles  ... and maybe AV grenades. Oh, and Armor tanks have horrible turning speed and acceleration.
Shield HP receive 30% additional damage from Forge Guns. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.10.13 23:48:00 -
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xjumpman23 got a good point. The beta has been around for a long while and some things have definitely gotten better but after such a long time testing, you would expect to see some sort of advances in balancing things such as weapons, suits, gun play; and instead, there have been a lot of set backs instead of a steady progress.
On the other hand I see a lot of Dust advocates (mostly EvE players) just say vague things like: 'you just don't grasp the grand idea behind Dust because you, discontents, are all teenagers and peasants'.
I think I lot of ppl have banded around Dust specifically because of the 'grand idea' of a persistent world where you play FPS with an MMO level of metagame but at the current level of development the beta just doesn't reflect this at all.
It can be said that the developers are using different builds to test specific things. For example, present build puts low ISK reward pressure on ppl to use start up suits and therefore, creates an environment favorable to testing how start up suits compare to everything else. If this is the case I wish developers were more explicit about it - they could have said: this build is to test how well AR can be used as well as to test low level gear. This would have avoided a lot of frustration on the part of testers. |
Ignatius Crumwald
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2012.10.14 00:32:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:Take the speed of the gameplay back up to replication. I'm tired of playing this honey boo boo camp in corner (COD STYLE) BS CCP calls DUST. I thought Zipper were a bunch of bad devs but CCP takes the crown. The games not aimed at you though unfortunatly. It's aimed at an older audience, you're 16.. you're not CCP's target
I'm 36. How old are they shooting for? Have they requisitioned the AARP mailing list yet? Are they putting inserts with beta codes in Reader's Digest and on the back of Bovril lids? |
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.14 00:39:00 -
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Theres nothing wrong with Bovril!
Especially at a WWFC match! |
Brahma El Indio
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
171
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Posted - 2012.10.14 00:40:00 -
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Geez I'm 38, 39 in a few weeks....
So I'm not some young'n looking for a COD strafe fest bunny hop clone...
What I want, is a solid high player count objective based shooter with a persistent universe.
Sure that's what dust is SUPPOSED to be, but its far from that vision yet....very far....
Before you tell me its a beta, I KNOW, but I'm sorry, beta or not, its a terrible game right now...mostly because of the game play....
Most games I get to play are 1 vs 1 or 1 vs 2 on huge maps....yeah that's generating a lot of beta test data don't you know?
If it gets released like this, it will flop big time.....
CCP may as well officially defer the full release by two years, so they don't release a rubbish release by year end.....
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Azold N'Kar
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Posted - 2012.10.14 00:44:00 -
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I personally have found that the latest build is much better to play. Even my shotgun scout is better to use, maybe its the improved hit detection?
The only thing I find a bit disappointing is no SP for repairing, and we can thank ourselves, the community for that one.
The 5 objectives map(s) are still a bit glitchy and laggy at times but nothing like the last build, which was horrific from that view.
In summary, not perfect but definitely getting better.
(Not sure what to make of tanks. 2 builds back horribly overpowered, now something the AV types see as being an easy kill. Work needed there). |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.14 00:49:00 -
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Brahma El Indio wrote:Geez I'm 38, 39 in a few weeks....
So I'm not some young'n looking for a COD strafe fest bunny hop clone...
What I want, is a solid high player count objective based shooter with a persistent universe.
Sure that's what dust is SUPPOSED to be, but its far from that vision yet....very far....
Before you tell me its a beta, I KNOW, but I'm sorry, beta or not, its a terrible game right now...mostly because of the game play....
Most games I get to play are 1 vs 1 or 1 vs 2 on huge maps....yeah that's generating a lot of beta test data don't you know?
If it gets released like this, it will flop big time.....
CCP may as well officially defer the full release by two years, so they don't release a rubbish release by year end.....
Honestly, don't get me wrong i agree with some of what he's saying.
But i know CCP, they will do the same with Dust as they did with EVE and it will be released broken, it's how CCP operate. They will patch and push things forward and add content as they move.
That's how CCP work, people say its **** and they shouldnt and blah blah blah and people said that wouldn't ever work for EVE either but it has and it's what CCP do. |
Atterro
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.10.14 00:59:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:RND Avc6700 wrote:Play another game if you don't like this one. That's actually why there's other games out there. You act like CCP is forcing to play this beta privilege. Either quit playing or wait til release to Cry about the game but til then have a coke and a smile and Shut the **** up . This is discussion forums not crybaby **** an whine forums. Sony hand selected me to test this beta back during the private trials (before the EVE players even got into it) and when i've seen this game go to **** of course i'm going to voice my opinion.
Well there you have it ladies and gent's. This person is just trolling.
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Gilbatron
Free-Space-Ranger
Nulli Secunda
81
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Posted - 2012.10.14 01:01:00 -
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you guys should go and play some eve
i have seen a lot of progress in the different builds so far.
there is not much use in finetuning balancing unless all gameplay features are implemented and working. until then, live with the banhammer CCP is swinging with low precision |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
335
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:35:00 -
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I would encourage to everyone to give us your Feedback, you have the right to share your positive or negative feedback because it can be very useful for our DEVS. However, there are some rules to follow, the first rule is open the thread in the appropriate sub-forum and then presented in a civil and factual manner.
Unfortunately this thread do not have any of the characteristics I've describe above.
This thread is now locked. |
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