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ladwar
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Posted - 2013.04.07 18:39:00 -
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well the large missile turrets range is 1-191m effective 100% even thou you can target farther the missiles explode at 191m IE was targeting installation at 243m with 43% effective but it would always explode at 191m. |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.04.07 22:50:00 -
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ST missiles all kinds. Accelerated, cycled, fragmented, standard. and i stand corrected it was at 188m. i am going to try higher level missiles but i do not think it will change anything. |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.04.07 23:12:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:ladwar wrote:ST missiles all kinds. Accelerated, cycled, fragmented, standard. and i stand corrected it was at 188m. i am going to try higher level missiles but i do not think it will change anything. Sweet ^^ I have one more question too- will the missiles do damage at 188m? I'm not sure if they changed it, but there were a number of shots from different weapons that looked like they hit a target or objective, but ended up doing 0 damage.
yes, i tested this on yellow installations.
i'll edit it with effectiveness later but im pretty sure is was near 85% |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.04.08 07:17:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:prlly should check all of the turrets.
The Large Missile Installations can hit targets at ranges of over 217 meters. (Just check the LMT on the 4 point map- south spawn LMT can hit the supply depot)
this is for tank turrets only the missile installation i can not find anything not in there range or the time to test them out with. |
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:53:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:What's your process for finding effective range? I really don't think laser rifles damage drops to 30% over 4 meters. It's just when the information stops showing, same as old max range. Others think it's around 30% of weapon efficiency but you'd have to check all weapons to know for sure if the 30% is true. We tested it with Delta Iddon and yes it drops down to nothing quickly.
confirmed, on all laser rifles. |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:42:00 -
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missile large optimal range 125m for all types and levels. max &effective 250m w/o caldari enforcer bonuses.
small missile 100 optimal and max &effective 200m
at max range it explodes while not getting down to 30% so not a true effective but it never goes to 30% so yea.
on shields 48% and 78% on armor (at max range)
131% 69% at optimal ranges for all missile turrets. tested on all missiles from MLT-PRO without any change in ranges.
please add to the list for everyone general knowledge and thank you for the docs. |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:31:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:ladwar wrote:missile large optimal range 125m for all types and levels. max &effective 250m w/o caldari enforcer bonuses.
small missile 100 optimal and max &effective 200m
at max range it explodes while not getting down to 30% so not a true effective but it never goes to 30% so yea.
on shields 48% and 78% on armor (at max range)
131% 69% at optimal ranges for all missile turrets. tested on all missiles from MLT-PRO without any change in ranges.
please add to the list for everyone general knowledge and thank you for the docs. Thank you for all that testing, lovely job. Is the 131% and 69% armour body and shields body? I've added all the ranges except for the modifiers, just waiting for your confirmation. Could you just use one missile turret to check the head modifiers too? Muchly appreciated!
yes this body of from installations. i'll try for the head modifiers and some tank spots but the armor values many take more time to get so i'll post the shield values soon.
on vehicles for crit zones 83% on shields and 155% on armor. i do believe this works on infantry as well but will test shortly. |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:50:00 -
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standard 80gj blaster 43m optimal 121m effective
crits zone 132% on shields vehicles 165% on infantry shields. norma 110% on shields 90% on armor. |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:03:00 -
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stabilizer standard blaster 80 gj blaster 145m effective(30%) 200-240m max(16%) optimal 52m 109%
normal 109% on shields 90% on armor normal. |
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:11:00 -
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compressed standard blaster 80 gj 43m optimal 120m effective 168-200m max range (16% on shields) |
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ladwar
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:41:00 -
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scattered standard blaster 80gj. 43m optimal 120 effective 163m max (17%)
other test have shown there is no range differences between tiers (MLT-PROTO) only from type (scattered, stabilized etc,) |
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Posted - 2013.07.30 21:25:00 -
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new graph on damage vs range on proto level turrets for numbers. effect is on shields. my ideal is the damage vs range for stabilized.
please add it as well. |
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Posted - 2013.08.04 10:06:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Added the ranges ladwar supplied, great work on that front! Only weapons missing on the vehicle side now are the large and small railguns and the small blasters!
I've updated a few ranges I've checked, nothing major. I also need to get in contact with Wolfman and get a definitive answer on what effective range is now that the ADS has been updated to show absolute range too.
i'll finish small blaster soon. large and small rail should have the same ranges as last time but i'll recheck them. |
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Posted - 2013.08.04 11:01:00 -
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large rails 599m max & optimal , all
overheat w/o any modules
large 3 on compressed(35), 4 standard(25heat), 5 regulated large(20heat)
small standard 4(25), 4 regulated(25), 3 compressed(45)
small rails 299m max & optimal, all
i did heat because that it really the only other factor besides damage which are shown. |
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Posted - 2013.08.04 11:32:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Measuring Distances
!!!!!EFFECTIVE RANGE MEASUREMENT IS OBSOLETE, ATTEMPTING TO FIND OUT NEW WAYS OF DOING THIS NOW!!!!!
Effective Range
This is the easiest range to measure, take your weapon that you are testing and aim it at a friendly turret and walk backwards, at some point the targeting information at the bottom left will dissapear, the last number it shows will be the effective range. It might change the number by a few metres sometimes for whatever reason so walk slowly back and note the last number before it 'jumps'.
dev blog on weapon ranges
CCP Remnant wrote:effective range at which point it will do around 30% damage.
this should be an ok measurement(30%) for effective. while absolute range is where weapons will continue to do incidental damage without change till max range where it stops doing damage. this is just a general idea that could/can be used for infantry weapons, this might lead to more testing for the longer ranges but would give a better overall picture. just tossing an idea out there. |
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Posted - 2013.08.04 12:31:00 -
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i did a much small graph on DPS with large blasters but it shows the info well enough
here is the graph
compressed large blasters should not be used at all. |
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Posted - 2013.08.04 15:00:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:ladwar wrote:
this should be an ok measurement(30%) for effective. while absolute range is where weapons will continue to do incidental damage without change till max range where it stops doing damage. this is just a general idea that could/can be used for infantry weapons, this might lead to more testing for the longer ranges but would give a better overall picture. just tossing an idea out there.
That is one option, I'd like to speak to Wolfman before I decide on specifics though.
k tested rails both large and small.
finished testing small blasters. posted their numbers on the post with same type of 80gj(large blaster) |
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Posted - 2013.09.12 19:42:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Just a heads up, in 1.5 AR ranges are getting changed so I'll need some help with checking them as I haven't got more than a level in AR operation. Vehicle weapons will be getting a range buff (at least large blasters) so they'll need to be re-checked too.
Will work on checking ranges as soon as 1.5 lands, will also update the colour scheme in the document to show what's been checked for 1.5 and what hasn't.
i didn't hear about a range buff on vehicles. either way they need to fix rendering before adding more range. but i will retest all vehicle turrets once it comes. |
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