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Aidan Torrall
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.12 14:48:00 -
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A brief comparison between the most expensive Scout suit and the most expensive Logi suit:
Proto Scout - 101K ISK
Sprint Speed: 7.7m/s
Sprint Duration: 18.5 sec
Proto Logi - 111K ISK
Sprint Speed: 7.4m/s
Sprint Duration: 19.8 sec
We all know the difference in CPU/PG, so I won't bother posting that. (and it's easy to see that with more CPU, the Logi could end up being faster, with, of course, more hit points and CPU/PG left over)
Maybe CCP did this by mistake (the other proto Log has 7.2 m/s speed, so I'm not sure)?
Anyone have an explanation as to why the Logi has a longer sprint duration and almost as much speed? (96%)
CCP? Thoughts? Answers? |
Wintars Boar
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
64
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:37:00 -
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It stands to my understanding the cout suit is made for quite movement, low profile, boosted sensor array. Speed has been tossed around, and I agree it could be a little faster than the other suits, but it's not designed to be a speed demon |
Vincam Velmoriar
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:28:00 -
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Hmm. Well, in my buff scout suit thread, people kept saying that the scouts had speed. That seemed to be the main argument. Doesn't really hold up now... |
Maximus Creed
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
68
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:40:00 -
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I strongly believe speed is the Scout's strongest asset. They should be speed demons!
CCP should look into this and re-balance. Good find! |
Evane Sa'edi
Celtic Anarchy
62
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Posted - 2012.10.12 18:49:00 -
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A scout should be quiet and if possible undetectable, right up to the point of thrusting a Nova Knife right through the targets back. Logi need more speed to revive the screeming injured on the field. |
Ky'noke Vyrus
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.10.12 18:52:00 -
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Some people believe the scout should be stealth while others see it as speed. I think it should be how u want to use it. Its like a frigate in eve though. Best speed, lowest hitbox, least damage. But this is not the case with the scout.. |
GOLD LEAD3R
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.10.12 19:56:00 -
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So I guess I should level up my logi dropsuit. Done and done. |
Vincam Velmoriar
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2012.10.12 22:39:00 -
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GOLD LEAD3R wrote:So I guess I should level up my logi dropsuit. Done and done.
Yeah, I guess that's the answer for now... |
Shadoe Wolf
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.10.12 23:02:00 -
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I dont remember what the sig profile specs are, but, the scout, with the right skills, would be pretty much invisible on radar along with the speed. Whereas the logi, as brought out, needs the speed to get to downed players, but they have a larger sig profile making them more visible on radar. Not near my PS so cant verify the sig specs. |
WHz DS9899
Doomheim
136
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Posted - 2012.10.12 23:04:00 -
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There's really no reasonIMO to use scouts anyways. If you want to snipe, might as well use assault or logi, maybe if you want to be campy, heavy. Scout is usless. |
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Shadoe Wolf
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.10.12 23:14:00 -
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WHz DS9899 wrote:There's really no reasonIMO to use scouts anyways. If you want to snipe, might as well use assault or logi, maybe if you want to be campy, heavy. Scout is usless.
The advantage to using scout to snipe is you wont show up on radar. So you can camp, pick off a few, and not show up on radar. Then easily move to another spot quickly and quietly if being countersniped. Even if you do pop on radar, you drop off pretty quick. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.13 15:58:00 -
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As it stands the biggest advantages a scout has over a logistics is the shield regen, profile, & the extra sidearm slot, but wtih the powergrid & cpu restriction, the logistics is a better all around choice and easier to fit and field. It's also capable of having it's signature radius lowered until it shows up less on the battlefield radar than a scout would.
The logi suit that you're referring to is the most expensive base suit in the game (120k isk before you put any modules on it) and it has the most module slots of any suit available (something like 4mid, 4low, 4equipment,1grenade,1lgiht) so if you fit it and lose it you'll be losing a significant amount of isk (or isk & aur because the suit itself doesn't have an aur counterpart). And in the suit's description is advises that it's using more expensive polymers & such to make it lighter & faster.
Personally I'd like to see that particular suit turned into a faction alternative & require both Scout & Logi skills to field. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.10.13 17:48:00 -
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scouts chouldnt be speed demons they should focus on recon buffs, low profile, increased agililty like reload and such, as well as a buff to detecting |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
136
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Posted - 2012.10.14 19:05:00 -
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Evane Sa'edi wrote:A scout should be quiet and if possible undetectable, right up to the point of thrusting a Nova Knife right through the targets back. Logi need more speed to revive the screeming injured on the field.
This ^. And it was also brought up the limitations as to the logi's weapons and other slots. This is also PROTO level gear, gear which takes a hell of a lot of time and money to skill into. The buff to the LOGI is great. The Scout should be faster. But offering a super expensive suit - filling out all the mods and equipment is even more expensive.
Give the scout advanced MELEE, it has Stealth, and any other buff that comes from just wearing spandex. Reloading, agility, etc. - btw i think they have most of that.
The logi is an equipment tank and is supposed to be the endall to the support role. He is the Omnisoldier - no role yet all of them. Faulted for everything that does not happen when his class is supposed to take care of it (rez, rep, resup, rally, ect.).
Many players seem to me to just be going the FPS route without spec-ing into something supportive as well. Drop uplinks, and assult that can rez, or a scout that has dropuplinks, or even an assult with a repper. Even saying it sounds odd doesn't it? With all that a logi is assigned to do - I support this buff. |
Xander Mercy
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
91
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Posted - 2012.10.14 19:08:00 -
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i put armor upgrades on my logi so it slows down alot makeing it hard to keep up with other suits so its kind of fair that it can run for longer
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RedBleach LeSanglant
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
136
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Posted - 2012.10.14 20:16:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:i put armor upgrades on my logi so it slows down alot makeing it hard to keep up with other suits so its kind of fair that it can run for longer
Very good point. |
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