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Arron Rift
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.12 06:54:00 -
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Saw this picture:
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/50001i681B84A497BDB76D/image-size/original?px=-1&v=mpbl-1
And it got me wondering: Should we ever be able to duel-wield guns in Dust 514? Has this already been confirmed?
Do you see any practical application for this? |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2012.10.12 07:04:00 -
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I say restrict to side arms with one handed operations only, have each weapon take up a slot, and finally no ads with them, and a high slot to assist reloading and be a module of bonus providing should dual weild ever need it to put it on par as an option against single handed operation. |
Carl Hauser
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.10.12 07:05:00 -
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I really like the option of dual wielding (of course only for sidearms) but there should be a reduction in releoding speed or a skill that allows dual wielding. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.12 07:08:00 -
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There should also be reduced accuracy and or increased kickback, it should be primarily for up close frontal damage. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.12 07:23:00 -
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I hate dual-wielding... We ain't in hollywood. We're supposed to be trained mercs. And you'll never see any trained force using double wielding non-sense crap. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.10.12 07:53:00 -
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I wonder how.... but it is possible :) (Eve have -> overload, here we can dualwields)
1. Fit SAME (seidearms?) weapon at weapon slot, so only combination for now:
nova + nova
SMG + SMG
pistol + pistol
And sorry no logistic guy for now (but screen with two SMG is great)
Having SMG + AR or AR + AR little over powered but still possible.
Rest of combinatios.. seems out of logic/usefulnes.
2. Less accuracy (but probably skil to level this up)
3. Reload time: x2.5 ... x3
And that is it. Done.
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GR1NCH
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
199
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:40:00 -
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in my opinion the only thing in this game that needs to be dual wield is the nova knife! |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:45:00 -
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dual wielding is very bad.
i totally agree with everyone else in this thread that it is a very bad idea. even halo got rid of dual wielding because it was a dumb idea. |
Vickers S Grunt
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
67
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:44:00 -
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As starlin told his generals when asked about double barreled tanks " Why have two small guns when u can have one big one " |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:58:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:I hate dual-wielding... We ain't in hollywood. We're supposed to be trained mercs. And you'll never see any trained force using double wielding non-sense crap.
Well, if only to play the Devil's Advocate, our clones are engineered to be far more capable than any normal human, and we're using power-assisted armor suits, so being able to control the recoil on two weapons isn't that hard to believe. |
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:43:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:I hate dual-wielding... We ain't in hollywood. We're supposed to be trained mercs. And you'll never see any trained force using double wielding non-sense crap.
Only on THREE ARMED clones since you need a third hand to reload since both hands are busy with the gun triggers.
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:59:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:I hate dual-wielding... We ain't in hollywood. We're supposed to be trained mercs. And you'll never see any trained force using double wielding non-sense crap. Only on THREE ARMED clones since you need a third hand to reload since both hands are busy with the gun triggers.
Why not require each weapon to be holstered alternately while reloading? You get double dps at the cost of a 6-8 second reload. |
Arron Rift
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
73
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Posted - 2012.10.12 18:55:00 -
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Does anyone know if CCP has already mentioned duel-wielding?
Also, I'd assume reloading would be handled as suggested above me, where one gun must be holstered so your free hand could load the other gun, thus combining the guns' reload times.
Also, perhaps duel-wielding would combine well with the jetpacking idea that I've heard elsewhere. Perhaps we could have a special suit type that has a jetpack, but can only use two sidearms and no large or heavies (which would make them great assasins, but unable to perch on a roof and snipe).
What do you guys think of this? |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.10.12 19:59:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:I hate dual-wielding... We ain't in hollywood. We're supposed to be trained mercs. And you'll never see any trained force using double wielding non-sense crap. Only on THREE ARMED clones since you need a third hand to reload since both hands are busy with the gun triggers. Why not require each weapon to be holstered alternately while reloading? You get double dps at the cost of a 6-8 second reload.
Six to eight seconds? thats a loooong time when theres a jerk like me using a militia smg on some poor orange clone trying to reload and the clone usually dies with a three second reload time.
Just place dual pistols on a clone and label it 007 and its good to go. |
Sobek Moridin
Immobile Infantry
0
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Posted - 2012.10.12 21:01:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:I hate dual-wielding... We ain't in hollywood. We're supposed to be trained mercs. And you'll never see any trained force using double wielding non-sense crap. Well, if only to play the Devil's Advocate, our clones are engineered to be far more capable than any normal human, and we're using power-assisted armor suits, so being able to control the recoil on two weapons isn't that hard to believe.
Presumably the weapons are designed with this in mind. IE, if a single weapon was held by a normal human the recoil would break them. Not designing weapons like this, which would give them more firepower, etc, would just be silly. Presumably the theoretical Dust scientists are slightly competent. |
Agnoeo
Jedi Knights.
35
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Posted - 2012.10.12 21:06:00 -
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NO!!! Bad boy! Go to back to your cage! |
Shiro Mokuzan
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
106
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Posted - 2012.10.12 21:37:00 -
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If they make it so bad and impractical so that no one would use it, like in real life, then I'd be okay with it.
Or they could just not implement it and save the time and effort. |
Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
319
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Posted - 2012.10.12 21:41:00 -
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If you can't kill something with one gun, you won't with two. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.10.12 21:47:00 -
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'In Eve it has been said
"Playing Minmatar is like riding an armchair down a set of stairs while firing six Uzis strapped on with duct tape"
You sure you want to settle for DUAL wield?'
From an ancient thread, though not the most ancient thread... |
Kosen Driago
WarRavens
25
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Posted - 2012.10.12 22:16:00 -
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I always liked dual wielding things. Don't see any good reason why dust shouldn't have it |
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Arron Rift
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
73
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Posted - 2012.10.13 06:07:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:I hate dual-wielding... We ain't in hollywood. We're supposed to be trained mercs. And you'll never see any trained force using double wielding non-sense crap. Only on THREE ARMED clones since you need a third hand to reload since both hands are busy with the gun triggers. Why not require each weapon to be holstered alternately while reloading? You get double dps at the cost of a 6-8 second reload. Six to eight seconds? thats a loooong time when theres a jerk like me using a militia smg on some poor orange clone trying to reload and the clone usually dies with a three second reload time. Just place dual pistols on a clone and label it 007 and its good to go.
Honestly you would probably be able to interupt the reload of the second gun after you reload the first and just use the one gun like normal if the situation was that tight. You would just resume loading the second gun automatically once you stop shooting long enough. |
Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
349
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Posted - 2012.10.13 07:16:00 -
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terrible idea. |
Mobius Kaethis
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
306
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Posted - 2012.10.13 07:16:00 -
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In short...no. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
109
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Posted - 2012.10.13 13:31:00 -
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i support this idea IF
both weapons take a 50% accuracy nerf while doing so.
this on TOP of what ever accuracy rating is already there.
you could actually go negative if done right.
but yeah:
no dual wield unless both weaps are nerfed while being dual wieldededed.
Peace
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