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Aelita Dranoch
HavoK Core
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:07:00 -
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Alright CCP, wats with this? you give us a laser rifle but it simply isnt't goog enough.
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there's the issue of damage, its got to be the weakest weapon on the battlefield, i mean sure if you fire it long enough its damage will increase but how long do i have to waste ammo b4 i get a kill?
2. the weapon might work better as a dissecting laser considering you must be very accurate to use it on another dropsuit as the beams path isnt wide enough to hit a moving target, not even when you are standing still
3.well thats mostly my only complaint these things need improvement, and you should add stats as far as how much the damage will increase for however long the weapon is active.
4. plz dont make multiple versions of the same weapon if they all have the same base damage
thats it, other than that its pretty cool thank you |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:15:00 -
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Aelita Dranoch wrote:Alright CCP, wats with this? you give us a laser rifle but it simply isnt't goog enough.
1.
there's the issue of damage, its got to be the weakest weapon on the battlefield, i mean sure if you fire it long enough its damage will increase but how long do i have to waste ammo b4 i get a kill?
2. the weapon might work better as a dissecting laser considering you must be very accurate to use it on another dropsuit as the beams path isnt wide enough to hit a moving target, not even when you are standing still
3.well thats mostly my only complaint these things need improvement, and you should add stats as far as how much the damage will increase for however long the weapon is active.
4. plz dont make multiple versions of the same weapon if they all have the same base damage
thats it, other than that its pretty cool thank you
The laser is like a paint stripper. It will decimate shields really quickly, but takes a long time to get through armor. It is best used when fighting in a group to take down shields. It is not as much of an all purpose weapon like the assault rifle.
If more of the other weapons had more recoil and kick, etc. the laser would really stand out. |
Fiasco Llana
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:16:00 -
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1. Level up the proficency and operation, get some damage mods.
2. Aim better.
3. Agreed.
4. Disagreed. |
Pwny Rainbow
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:20:00 -
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From what I've noticed, it's the best weapon at mid-long range (not as far as a sniper, but on the edge of an AR range). As long as you stay on target, it decimates shields, and it's pretty easy to just drag to a headshot with it.
It IS good- as long as it's in the right situation; I'm using one right now, but I'm not planning on keeping it next build (trying out every oddball weapon besides heavy weapons)
On a side note- be VERY careful with it. I was firing at a heavy, hit a ladder in from of me for a little bit, and actually suicided from shooting near myself.
Btw, anyone know why it's worth paying for an advanced LR? The stats are barely different, it just doesn't overheat as quickly. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.10.10 01:24:00 -
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Pwny Rainbow wrote:
Btw, anyone know why it's worth paying for an advanced LR? The stats are barely different, it just doesn't overheat as quickly.
I have heard that it gains in damage output much faster than the basic laser rifle. |
Aelita Dranoch
HavoK Core
12
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:03:00 -
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The laser is like a paint stripper. It will decimate shields really quickly, but takes a long time to get through armor. It is best used when fighting in a group to take down shields. It is not as much of an all purpose weapon like the assault rifle.
If more of the other weapons had more recoil and kick, etc. the laser would really stand out.[/quote]
believe me ive tried using on shields, but so far i cant even get it to drop the shields to 50% on an LAV after using 2 whole clips and 1 damage boooster that increases damage by 2% so....whats with that? i have good skills all-round so far |
Waruiko DUST
G I A N T
90
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:08:00 -
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The whole good against shields bad on armor is crap. Most people are running heavy and assault suits right now and those have larger armor buffers then shield buffers so it only looks that way.
I know quite a few people who swear by the laser rifle and do fairly will by it. That said from he feedback I've gotten its very much a m/kb gun because it takes lots of precision to aim it right.
It also does its best damage at medium ranges towards the end of its range. The % value that shows how much of your damage is going through goes up the further the target is. You might only be dealing 15% of your damage at knife range. |
Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:21:00 -
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Aelita Dranoch wrote:The laser is like a paint stripper. It will decimate shields really quickly, but takes a long time to get through armor. It is best used when fighting in a group to take down shields. It is not as much of an all purpose weapon like the assault rifle. If more of the other weapons had more recoil and kick, etc. the laser would really stand out.
believe me ive tried using on shields, but so far i cant even get it to drop the shields to 50% on an LAV after using 2 whole clips and 1 damage boooster that increases damage by 2% so....whats with that? i have good skills all-round so far[/quote]
Dude. There's a difference between infantry and a goddamn vehicle. You will never take out a vehicle with a laser or are. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:26:00 -
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USAS
any battlefield 3 vet will know tge term |
Naustradamus Oracle
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:29:00 -
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Not a user myself ... but I just wanted to know
I know there are other weapons better suited for vehicles, but how does the laser rifle stack up against just a simple LAV. better or same as AR? |
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Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:30:00 -
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The way i would put it, is the Laser Rifle is good in 10% of the scraps I'm involved in which take place at its extreme long range, where its high long range dmg is really nice, but at the end of the day the AR is still king because of its reliability at all ranges, having a weapon that charges up to its full dmg after a few seconds just doesn't cut it when gun fights tend to be very short sharp engagements. |
Naustradamus Oracle
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.10.10 02:34:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:The way i would put it, is the Laser Rifle is good in 10% of the scraps I'm involved in which take place at its extreme long range, where its high long range dmg is really nice, but at the end of the day the AR is still king because of its reliability at all ranges, having a weapon that charges up to its full dmg after a few seconds just doesn't cut it when gun fights tend to be very short sharp engagements.
Kind of what I was thinking ... but if the laser rifle is also mediocre affective against vehicles, then I can understand it's place a bit more ... still kind of good against infantry, and kind of good against vehicles. As of now, mass drivers/forge guns/swarm missiles are either non affective against ground forces, or low ammo count so infantry kills seems less worthwhile vs vehicles
I still don't like it myself, but hey, to each their own |
Magpie Raven
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
161
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Posted - 2012.10.10 03:12:00 -
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Ive been using it alot and i like it for the most part. With sharpshooter trained up you can hit people far away. Its also great at getting guys crossing open ground and who dont know you are there. Just charge it up for like 2 secs then drop it one them. most suits will be dead before they have time to react.
I also use damage modifiers.
One thing though that needs to change is that the starting damage needs to increase. As it is its really hard to get through armor before they either run away or u die. |
DeMon Clown
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:49:00 -
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Well ive actually tried the LR and managed to take out a CRU and still had 50 in the clip |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.13 21:59:00 -
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I think its awsome just keep em at range and you can fry a hvy in 3-4 seconds. But hell buff it why not  Maybe dont make em so epic fail within 30m just poor would do. |
STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.10.13 22:32:00 -
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Waruiko DUST wrote:The whole good against shields bad on armor is crap. Most people are running heavy and assault suits right now and those have larger armor buffers then shield buffers so it only looks that way.
I know quite a few people who swear by the laser rifle and do fairly will by it. That said from he feedback I've gotten its very much a m/kb gun because it takes lots of precision to aim it right.
It also does its best damage at medium ranges towards the end of its range. The % value that shows how much of your damage is going through goes up the further the target is. You might only be dealing 15% of your damage at knife range.
Agreed, that was very apparent to me the first time I tried the Laser Rifle.
It definitely would take skill using the weapon solo, and I concur with an above poster that it is best used with a "wingman" or in a squad based situation.
Otherwise, you want to avoid close combat scenarios with the Laser Rifle and always try to be the first to engage.
The winning combo for me has been using it to take out their shields (flux grenade can do the same) then when they have closed the gap between us I switch to an SMG and finish them off at close quarters.
Laser rifles... who doesn't want to be a bad ass kitten?
Kitten Laser |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.10.14 01:58:00 -
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the thing is its no close quarter weapon. Go ahead with a mate and aim at him at like 1m distance. The efficency rating will tell you 25%. However if you go to 25-30 meters it will tell you a efficency rating of 120%. Basically its a medium-long range weapon. And the longer you fire the more damage you do. If you can keep enemys at distance you melt them down in no time. But if they get to close you might want to ditch it. On medium to long range its superior over the assault rifles cause they loose efficency over range and do more damage up close. Well just think of it as an inverted shotgun. Its quite usefull in infantry vs infantry fights where you want to take out enemys over distance which can be quite hard with a assault rifle. |
RedMoses
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 18:08:00 -
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Very fun, and a very unique weapon that is not and all around gun like the AR. Close quarters, lots of corners, etc. mean it will not be as effective in combat. Other than that I think it is the perfect support weapon. The long distance Shotgun as others have said.
It works great for a logi build in the right environments, otherwise I run the mas driver in the tight spaces. |
CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
83
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Posted - 2012.10.14 18:10:00 -
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Really i got so many kills with it its perfectly balanced |
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