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Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 00:47:00 -
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everyone probly knows what map im talking about(unless you are a sniper, because then it is your favorite map) but in case you dont, it is the one with only three objectives. when you play it and try not to be a sniper, one of three things happen: 1. you endlessly run forward into the 8 different snipers' lines of sight dieing within seconds. 2. you call in a LAV and rush to the objective only to get killed by 4 people waiting for you. 3. you spawn at B and get repeatedly owned by that one person on top the hill and he never dies because as soon as you almost kill him, he backs up to heal.
I propose that in the hot fix that is coming up, we just remove the map entirely because it is really making the game suck. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.09 00:49:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:I propose that in the hot fix that is coming up, we just remove the map entirely because it is really making the game suck.
Should they remove the other 10,000 or so maps with similar terrain? |
wathak 514
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 00:52:00 -
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Actually i like the map and im a dropship pilot which the ap is the worst for me as im very visiable in the sky
As for ur sniper proplem all i can say is duck dodge dive... u know the rest
As for ur other proplems well build or join a decent team |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 00:53:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:I propose that in the hot fix that is coming up, we just remove the map entirely because it is really making the game suck. Should they remove the other 10,000 or so maps with similar terrain? you mean the different mood combinations of the map? if so, then yes because it is the same map. if otherwise, then yes because no map should ever be that awful. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.09 00:58:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:you mean the different mood combinations of the map? if so, then yes because it is the same map. if otherwise, then yes because no map should ever be that awful.
I think you're missing my point. Each planet is going to have its own terrain. You want them to remove, a single map. What good will that do in the grand scheme of things, when ANY number of maps could have similar terrain? Should we remove that style of terrain completely?
I think scouting out the area you're about to fight in is going to be FAR more valuable than people can currently grasp, depending on how everything is implemented. |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:00:00 -
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wathak 514 wrote:Actually i like the map and im a dropship pilot which the ap is the worst for me as im very visiable in the sky
As for ur sniper proplem all i can say is duck dodge dive... u know the rest
As for ur other proplems well build or join a decent team the map evens out because your one shot kill small missles kill every one and the swarms can't catch up to your dropship any way if you go fast enough
duck dodge dive... where? under that one grain of dirt that we can use for cover?
so the snipers don't need team work but we do? god what you said sounds just like what them AV kids said. |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:you mean the different mood combinations of the map? if so, then yes because it is the same map. if otherwise, then yes because no map should ever be that awful. I think you're missing my point. Each planet is going to have its own terrain. You want them to remove, a single map. What good will that do in the grand scheme of things, when ANY number of maps could have similar terrain? Should we remove that style of terrain completely? I think scouting out the area you're about to fight in is going to be FAR more valuable than people can currently grasp, depending on how everything is implemented. i say yes remove that map generation style |
Ironic Kitten
Mecha Trained Assault Cats
23
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:02:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:2. you call in a LAV and rush to the objective only to get killed by 4 people waiting for you. I'll be opening a driving school for people who have this problem...
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Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:09:00 -
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Ironic Kitten wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:2. you call in a LAV and rush to the objective only to get killed by 4 people waiting for you. I'll be opening a driving school for people who have this problem... im talking about when you get out |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:13:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:im talking about when you get out
You're crazy if you think I'm getting out of my 90k LAV for any reason other than to repair it >_< |
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Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:19:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:im talking about when you get out You're crazy if you think I'm getting out of my 90k LAV for any reason other than to repair it >_< no one said it was anything other than malitia |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:20:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:im talking about when you get out You're crazy if you think I'm getting out of my 90k LAV for any reason other than to repair it >_<
90,000 LAV I like your style
I prefer the free one so easy to run mercs over, and the tough ones just hop put and mow them down. I love the jagged rock map |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:22:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:im talking about when you get out You're crazy if you think I'm getting out of my 90k LAV for any reason other than to repair it >_< 90,000 LAV I like your style I prefer the free one so easy to run mercs over, and the tough ones just hop put and mow them down. I love the jagged rock map okay fine you dont like the map if you are anything other than a sniper or LAV driver |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:25:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:okay fine you dont like the map if you are anything other than a sniper or LAV driver
I'm a shotgun scout, that map is literally the WORST map for that style of play...I still rock it, I still love the map....see, I don't blame maps on my own shortcomings, I adapt, or I die. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:26:00 -
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i hate a map, the one with the building that is under construction with all 5 points relatively close.
it only is useful to shotguns, HMG and assault rifles. everything else is completely worthless int he map because the sniper positions are in terrible areas and by the time you get up there you get shot by an assault rifle.
but because i am not a selfish prick i usually just switch to militia mode because i know i will die hundreds of times on that horrible map. |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:27:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:okay fine you dont like the map if you are anything other than a sniper or LAV driver I'm a shotgun scout, that map is literally the WOST map for that style of play...I still rock it, I still love the map....see, I don't blame maps on my own shortcomings, I adapt, or I die. so ur sayn that every one should adapt and use snipers? i dont know about u but i dont want a sniper fest going on |
8404-0000 GREEN
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:28:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:everyone probly knows what map im talking about(unless you are a sniper, because then it is your favorite map) but in case you dont, it is the one with only three objectives. when you play it and try not to be a sniper, one of three things happen: 1. you endlessly run forward into the 8 different snipers' lines of sight dieing within seconds. 2. you call in a LAV and rush to the objective only to get killed by 4 people waiting for you. 3. you spawn at B and get repeatedly owned by that one person on top the hill and he never dies because as soon as you almost kill him, he backs up to heal.
I propose that in the hot fix that is coming up, we just remove the map entirely because it is really making the game suck.
Everytime I see these posts, they overlook the aspect of teamwork.
1. Run Cover to cover, team mates laying down cover fire, actually works 2. Load up the LAV, the gunner will thin out those at the destination and grenades or what not will even the 3v4 problem :) 3. Team work, find a buddy sniper. |
Pwny Rainbow
12
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:29:00 -
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Relax. It's just a scenario/structure test, as with all the other maps right now. If you hate that valley, you can always avoid it in the future.
That, and it would be pretty hard to remove the center of the entire plateau megaterrain.
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HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:30:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:okay fine you dont like the map if you are anything other than a sniper or LAV driver I'm a shotgun scout, that map is literally the WOST map for that style of play...I still rock it, I still love the map....see, I don't blame maps on my own shortcomings, I adapt, or I die.
I used to not like it as well as a heavy. But now I love charging the hill with the supply depot, taking it over switching suits drop some hives, up links and then break out the forge to take out any vehicles. And then switch to my hmg setup for any one trying to take back my hill.
It sure beats running around the map in a fat suit. Now they just come to me.
I'm king of the hill |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:32:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:so ur sayn that every one should adapt and use snipers?
I'm saying you shouldn't be such a pansy. You should use AR fits more on that map, and troll along the edges hunting for snipers. You should run in between cover, and not out in the open, making sure to jump, duck, and weave when you have to be in the open. Call in a militia LAV if you're too scared to walk by yourself. Avoid the main open areas, and stick together. Call out enemy snipers to your own snipers. Fly a dropship, drive a tank...whatever works for you.
Or just quit out when you get that map. Just don't come crying to the forums because a map doesn't cater to your specific playstyle. |
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Pwny Rainbow
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:35:00 -
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Also keep in mind that when you're in tighter structures, it isn't exactly a playground for snipers. That's why, when the ACTUAL battles start, you probably will see snipers staying in the hills while other playstyles stay within structures. |
Kay High
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
86
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:43:00 -
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on average my life span on the battle field no matter the map is about 10-30 seconds. I like to call that particular map snipy rocks cause I tend to live longer when I snipe there. I also run Logistics (part of the reason I live so little) so in order to adapt or die I get on with my brother and run LAV's. when I do this my life expectancy is 2-4 times longer. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:47:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:okay fine you dont like the map if you are anything other than a sniper or LAV driver I'm a shotgun scout, that map is literally the WORST map for that style of play...I still rock it, I still love the map....see, I don't blame maps on my own shortcomings, I adapt, or I die. This map is the kittens for explosions. Every fit I drop in has a mass driver equipped when I play this map.
Also, sig dampener modules & drop up-links make great anti-sniper tactical combat.
Also, explosions. |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 02:43:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:okay fine you dont like the map if you are anything other than a sniper or LAV driver I'm a shotgun scout, that map is literally the WOST map for that style of play...I still rock it, I still love the map....see, I don't blame maps on my own shortcomings, I adapt, or I die. I used to not like it as well as a heavy. But now I love charging the hill with the supply depot, taking it over switching suits drop some hives, up links and then break out the forge to take out any vehicles. And then switch to my hmg setup for any one trying to take back my hill. It sure beats running around the map in a fat suit. Now they just come to me. I'm king of the hill i was reffering to the next to B but thats also kinda annoying |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 02:46:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:i hate a map, the one with the building that is under construction with all 5 points relatively close.
it only is useful to shotguns, HMG and assault rifles. everything else is completely worthless int he map because the sniper positions are in terrible areas and by the time you get up there you get shot by an assault rifle.
but because i am not a selfish prick i usually just switch to militia mode because i know i will die hundreds of times on that horrible map. so you consider everything else to be exclusivly sniper? because that map is great for every weapon, even the sniper. you dont like it because its no longer duckhunt514 |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.09 02:53:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:so ur sayn that every one should adapt and use snipers? I'm saying you shouldn't be such a pansy. You should use AR fits more on that map, and troll along the edges hunting for snipers. You should run in between cover, and not out in the open, making sure to jump, duck, and weave when you have to be in the open. Call in a militia LAV if you're too scared to walk by yourself. Avoid the main open areas, and stick together. Call out enemy snipers to your own snipers. Fly a dropship, drive a tank...whatever works for you. Or just quit out when you get that map. Just don't come crying to the forums because a map doesn't cater to your specific playstyle. two things are wrong with what you said: 1. there IS NO COVER FOR ME TO HIDE BEHIND 2. you asked me to get a sniper to use team work. only god can create miricals. |
Sandromin Hes
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
204
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Posted - 2012.10.09 02:55:00 -
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I'm a laser rifle/assault rifle squad leader... I consistently make top rank in the match on my team on that map... |
Average Joe81
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.10.09 02:58:00 -
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Sandromin Hes wrote:I'm a laser rifle/assault rifle squad leader... I consistently make top rank in the match on my team on that map... 1. lazer rifle has higher range than the other weapons so it is better for that map 2. you acctually use your squad commands so of corce you have a high rank in the match |
Christ0pher Blair
Deep Space Republic
34
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Posted - 2012.10.09 03:24:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Average Joe81 wrote:okay fine you dont like the map if you are anything other than a sniper or LAV driver I'm a shotgun scout, that map is literally the WOST map for that style of play...I still rock it, I still love the map....see, I don't blame maps on my own shortcomings, I adapt, or I die. so ur sayn that every one should adapt and use snipers? i dont know about u but i dont want a sniper fest going on
Mercs: adapt to the conditions given to you.
Right now, with limited resources, the map might be difficult or one sided. I never had a problem with it in an assault suit. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.09 03:47:00 -
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Average Joe81 wrote:Sandromin Hes wrote:I'm a laser rifle/assault rifle squad leader... I consistently make top rank in the match on my team on that map... 1. lazer rifle has higher range than the other weapons so it is better for that map 2. you acctually use your squad commands so of corce you have a high rank in the match
So you hate the map unless you're:
- A sniper
- An LAV Driver
- A Laser Rifle user
- Blowing things up with a Mass Driver (because explosions are awesome)
- Rocking a Forge Gun or Swarm Launcher (to take out the LAV Drivers)
- Issuing/Following Squad Commands
So, you only hate the map as a shotgun/AR/HMG + pistol/SMG user...except when you hitch a ride in an LAV, HAV, or Dropship to a location with decent cover. |
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