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skank hoe Bragian Order Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2012.10.06 05:41:00 - [1] - Quote So when people are caught spamming SP/ISK and you have proof, those people and their Corp should be punished. I was in a game and the guy must've dropped 15 Orbital Strikes. They were just chillin in their main base inflicting damage on a dropship and repairing it. I did kill they guy twice and destroy the dropship but with the amount of ISK/SP they got I doubt it matters. The one guy on that team put lots of effort into it and it's not fair. I know I'm beating a dead horse and it's just a BETA, but in games where your caught cheating and theres proof you get the BANHAMMER. For this game I say the CORP(if they are in one) gets a MASSIVE penality and/or fine, and the players get like a 72 hour ban. PICTURE 11,000 WP= big steaming pile of BULL!!
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.10.06 05:57:00 - [2] - Quote Yes, that is what those people do. They are bad at playing the game normally but they're just dumb enough to find sitting around repairing LAVs game after game enjoyable.
xeto rak Epidemic. Space Immigration 23	Posted - 2012.10.06 08:56:00 - [3] - Quote CCP must find a way to isolate these people and get the fun going through serious integration with EVE online. If you are not into a corp then you will not get to the battlefield, so losers like this can keep doing this in so called drones missions or whatever. I really hope the social aspect of the game kicks-in. If you behave and respect the community you stay in the game, else you are kicked out of the corp.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.10.06 11:09:00 - [4] - Quote I just opened a question on General Discussions pertaining to exactly this. Though my question/comment goes a little deeper. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=39766&find=unread I think the WP farmers are hurting the rest of us a LOT more than by just not participating, and this explains the extremely low SP/ISK payouts we get in games where they are doing this.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.10.06 11:15:00 - [5] - Quote skank hoe wrote: PICTURE 11,000 WP= big steaming pile of BULL!! This is not the same battle as I were in, but the numbers look very much the same. Rippper got 11k+ SP and another warrior were around 8k+, with another in second with also 11k+, and very low kill counts. Ripper went 16/0 in my match, and got those by spamming Precision strikes in the last few minutes of the match.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.10.06 12:59:00 - [6] - Quote Compare their earnings when other players start interrupting their repairs. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10561661/SweetWarriorTears01.png
Aphex De Baal D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 9	Posted - 2012.10.06 14:48:00 - [7] - Quote I spent a lot of time grinding legitimate SP and ISK to create a decent build, only to have cheaters wipe out any advantage. I'm now losing more dropsuits to Precision Strike spamming and uber kitted cheaters and getting less rewards per match, meaning my ISK is slowly reducing. I will end up only being able to afford Militia loadouts against all these well equipped scammers/cheaters, so what is the point of continuing to grind away again only to be killed instantly in any encounter? This game is supposed to be fun, not frustrating and tedious. Sort out the cheats and make sure they stay flagged as cheaters when the game goes live.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:15:00 - [8] - Quote Bannable? lol they are breaking no rules
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:22:00 - [9] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Bannable? lol they are breaking no rules I'm pretty sure they may be. The game allows this due to an oversight/bug, and CCP have stated that is is a known problem, that makes it an exploit, and therefore breaking the rules.
l8erXD Bragian Order Amarr Empire 33	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:29:00 - [10] - Quote skank hoe wrote: So when people are caught spamming SP/ISK and you have proof, those people and their Corp should be punished. I was in a game and the guy must've dropped 15 Orbital Strikes. They were just chillin in their main base inflicting damage on a dropship and repairing it. I did kill they guy twice and destroy the dropship but with the amount of ISK/SP they got I doubt it matters. The one guy on that team put lots of effort into it and it's not fair. I know I'm beating a dead horse and it's just a BETA, but in games where your caught cheating and theres proof you get the BANHAMMER. For this game I say the CORP(if they are in one) gets a MASSIVE penality and/or fine, and the players get like a 72 hour ban. PICTURE 11,000 WP= big steaming pile of BULL!! You have every right to post this in the forum. These are people that want the easy way out and have no lives for themselves.

EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:39:00 - [11] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: Bannable? lol they are breaking no rules I'm pretty sure they may be. The game allows this due to an oversight/bug, and CCP have stated that is is a known problem, that makes it an exploit, and therefore breaking the rules. But swapping suits to get back armor is an exploit Hell stick your tank out so the enemy shoots it and then rep it back would that be classed as an exploit if you do it in the field of play?
8404-0000 GREEN Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:48:00 - [12] - Quote I don't understand how thats fun, its like playing the stock market I guess, but whats the use of all that money and points if your not going to use it? Is there a friendly fire penalty for the strikes?
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:54:00 - [13] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: Bannable? lol they are breaking no rules I'm pretty sure they may be. The game allows this due to an oversight/bug, and CCP have stated that is is a known problem, that makes it an exploit, and therefore breaking the rules. But swapping suits to get back armor is an exploit Hell stick your tank out so the enemy shoots it and then rep it back would that be classed as an exploit if you do it in the field of play? One major difference there. Risk. If you stick your tank out and get shot at, you actually run a risk, and have enemies occupied with you, which benefits teh team. What the "Peasants Inc" are doing involves NO risk.
Conraire Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 52	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:55:00 - [14] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Bannable? lol they are breaking no rules They only reason they're not "breaking rules" is because the Terms of Service haven't been set yet. Those usually aren't set until official launch of any game. At which point they outline acceptable play and what not, as it applies to the masses. The problem is right now, that these people abusing this, is ruining the integrity of this entire beta, and current build. When WP are earned at the intended rate, you might see 1 or 2 Precision strikes per squad during an entire game. It may be a beta, but, it's one thing to find an exploitable, game breaking thing like that, report it, and move on. It's another thing to find it, and continuously abuse it, for your own personal amusement, until the end of time. That's when you've crossed the line from being a beta tester to just trying to ruin the game for anyone else. It's very clear that many of those who are doing it now, have crossed that line. It's becoming abundantly clear to me, that if things continue as they are, there will be only 1 course of action to stop this BS. And that will most likely be permanent banning for those who continue to abuse it. It's a drastic measure, but sadly I am starting to think it is going to become necessary, with the current mentality of the people doing it. EVE may be a sandbox, but, there are baseline RULES there to keep such abuses from happening.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.10.06 15:55:00 - [15] - Quote 8404-0000 GREEN wrote: I don't understand how thats fun, its like playing the stock market I guess, but whats the use of all that money and points if your not going to use it? Is there a friendly fire penalty for the strikes? Friendly fire is off, you really have to be unlucky to kill friendlies.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.10.06 16:41:00 - [16] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: Bannable? lol they are breaking no rules I'm pretty sure they may be. The game allows this due to an oversight/bug, and CCP have stated that is is a known problem, that makes it an exploit, and therefore breaking the rules. But swapping suits to get back armor is an exploit Hell stick your tank out so the enemy shoots it and then rep it back would that be classed as an exploit if you do it in the field of play? One major difference there. Risk. If you stick your tank out and get shot at, you actually run a risk, and have enemies occupied with you, which benefits teh team. What the "Peasants Inc" are doing involves NO risk. Actually you can OB them in the spawn
Jaysin 011584 Scorpions At War 90	Posted - 2012.10.06 18:38:00 - [17] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Bannable? lol they are breaking no rules yes they are, in battle if soldiers dont move in or turn around and run their officers are ordered to kill them ( at least in vietnam) so yes they are breaking rules ALL COMBATANTS ARE REQUIRED TO ENTER THE BURN ZONE sound familiar they are not entering the burn zone if they are farming P.S. I bet you farm don't you
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.10.06 19:19:00 - [18] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Actually you can OB them in the spawn Yes and no. they do tend to work under cover if possible. and given the choice between a blind aim in the enemy home spawn point, and spotted enemies at an objective, I think most squad leaders earning an OB will choose the latter.
8404-0000 GREEN Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.10.06 20:10:00 - [19] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: 8404-0000 GREEN wrote: I don't understand how thats fun, its like playing the stock market I guess, but whats the use of all that money and points if your not going to use it? Is there a friendly fire penalty for the strikes? Friendly fire is off, you really have to be unlucky to kill friendlies. this would solve the overuse (not the WP problem)....and at the same time make the enemy wonder why they are alone all of sudden.
skank hoe Bragian Order Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2012.10.06 21:06:00 - [20] - Quote What about an option to boot people? If some people are just sitting back doing that, you goto the player list highlight their name and vote too boot. If the person does gett booted they get nothing. And have a reason why, "vote to boot XXXXX, for _______.".



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