DUST Search - AR's need a nerf.

Sentient Archon wrote:

Dust Goon wrote:

Just read the entire thread and it amazes me that not a single one of you muppets has mentioned that there's about 8 different types of assault rifles all specialised in different ways, maybe the snipers are getting picked off by the tac assault rifles and the shotgun fairys are getting killed by the GEKs, they for example are 2 totally different rifles which if switched around, the sniper would kill the high ROF/DPS GEK user because of their range advantage while the shotgun fairy would out DPS the tac rifle user due to the shorter range and higher ROF he has on the shotgun.

It's all relative to the situation and the individual AR's and not a single person in this thread has mentioned specific AR's being OP in specific roles which is what they have, you've all instead bashed every single AR rather than single a specific issue on a specific rifle. If all the AR users was using the Breach you wouldn't see a single complaint .

Also all the posts about their being more % of kills from AR's is obvious, it's nothing to do with AR being more powerful than other weapons, it's to do with the number of users using them. It's simple math.

Meh... I was gonna say this was the most sensible post in this thread but you said you read the entire thread which is not very sensible. You should know by now that any thread that says that something needs a nerf should be ignored.

+1 for making sense
-1 for reading the entire thread

Bear


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Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.11.30 18:19:00 - [1] - Quote AR dont need a NERF. They need more SKILL to be used. At the moment, there aint any recoil at all. That's wrong. Hip fire is also too performant at mid distance. And they're also better at close range hip-fire than SMGs which should be the best hip-fire auto weapon. Correct those two things and you got perfect AR with the current stats. Restore breach AR to be actually usefull but with a VERY REAL recoil. Other than that, they're fine and should be kind of the best mid-range weapon through ADS and usefull at close and slightly long range.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.03 13:10:00 - [2] - Quote Michael Cratar wrote: This is my opinion, hate all you want on it. 26-0 Laser Rifle absurd mag sizes, absurd accuracy, absurd ROF, with no recoil whatsoever. Lol I use the laser rifle all the time and go 26-0give or take 10 depending on match and when I joined, but nobody says the laser rifle is OP. I try so hard to get hate. WHY WONT YOU HATE ME QQ RAGE QUITS You wont get that much against good players who actually know how to counter your laser. You wouldnt get me 2 times in a game without me coming back at you and leaving you no chance. Also, laser = more or less a light beam. Why would there be recoil ?
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.03 15:16:00 - [3] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Dust Goon wrote: Just read the entire thread and it amazes me that not a single one of you muppets has mentioned that there's about 8 different types of assault rifles all specialised in different ways, maybe the snipers are getting picked off by the tac assault rifles and the shotgun fairys are getting killed by the GEKs, they for example are 2 totally different rifles which if switched around, the sniper would kill the high ROF/DPS GEK user because of their range advantage while the shotgun fairy would out DPS the tac rifle user due to the shorter range and higher ROF he has on the shotgun. It's all relative to the situation and the individual AR's and not a single person in this thread has mentioned specific AR's being OP in specific roles which is what they have, you've all instead bashed every single AR rather than single a specific issue on a specific rifle. If all the AR users was using the Breach you wouldn't see a single complaint . Also all the posts about their being more % of kills from AR's is obvious, it's nothing to do with AR being more powerful than other weapons, it's to do with the number of users using them. It's simple math. Meh... I was gonna say this was the most sensible post in this thread but you said you read the entire thread which is not very sensible. You should know by now that any thread that says that something needs a nerf should be ignored. +1 for making sense -1 for reading the entire thread LOL ! +1 for the -1 More seriously, it's not really surprising that no one mentionned specific AR being OP in situations where they shouldnt. And i know you have the TAC in mind due to way too high ROF allowing modded controllers to cheat. But, this thread was about general AR, and by that i mean that the poster was bashing the classic AR user, meaning the duvolle, gek etc... There was no need, or at least it wasnt exactly the place to go into such specifics as the whole point of many of us was to say that.... AR are the most used weapon in any FPS for many reasons. And that's no surprise to get killed mainly by them. Then it was more about what could be tweaked about AR (recoil especially wich is planned).
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.03 15:44:00 - [4] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: I agree, They need to shoot shorter distances, I think its a bit much to shoot from "C point" into " A Point" on the 3 point map.! I guess that full sharpshooter and sharpshooter proficiency have been attained , NERF them ALL. H.D This may be true with Tac AR but with regular ones i dont think so.. Maxing out Sharp and profiency would give you a total 40% bonus in range. Duvolle Assault Rifle Max Range: 87m Optimal Range: 1 - 39m Meta Level: 8 So, we skilled maxed out, you get 121m max range. 55m optimal range. Meaning that at 100m distance, you deal nearly half the damage the weapon should do... Overall, it doesnt strike as odd at all. Douvelle Tactical Assault Rifle Max Range: 122m Optimal Range: 1 - 79m Meta Level: 9 With max sharp. 170m max range 110 optimal range. There you get good damages at long distance. Thus why its ROF must absolutely be decreased big time. People should do the math before talking. Especially when Musta gave us a nice range topic filled with gold informations.