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Kiiran-B
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Posted - 2012.12.08 18:06:00 -
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They don't even have that much damage nor range when you start out.
You have to channel tons and tons of skill points into getting the gun to be effective: five levels of assault rifle, five levels of proficiency, five levels of sharpshooter AND you need to work with a horrible shooting and tracking mechanic just to kill someone. All the while being killed by snipers, fast scouts with shotguns - which kill in one or two shots - subs and of course heavies who, lest we forget, need very specific circumstances needed to kill them (STAY AT RANGE, JUMP AROUND THEM AND RUN AWAY - stupidity). which means that you can't put any SP into shield or anything else meaning you'll die easily.
I understand what people are saying about recoil. But it's hard enough to track someone when they are running. ARs need to be powerful to take out heavies who require no skill to hold R1 and point (as you so accused ARs of needing.
If ARs are getting nerfed so should heavies. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.12.09 00:37:00 -
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Are you kidding me??? I have almost no sp in assault rifles, and I still do fine with them. Don't try and make it look like AR's are more sp intensive than any other weapon, as they all have operation, proficiency and sharpshooter.
Also nerf heavies? Have you ever used one? On my shotgun scout alt (that still uses militia gear and has about 700k total sp) I easily deal with them. It's something know as "tactics"', and charging a heavy straight on is not a good idea
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I never said they were more intensive I know they all do, heavies need to train in more sp than assault and spend much more ISK I acknowledge this. But heavies get better effect out of their skills and they still kill me before I put any sort of substantial damage to them. Using a shotgun on a heavy is different than and assault rifle surely, it has more damage and not too bad RoF.
If we are nerfing ARs then yeah we should nerf them. I can't believe people actually think that heavies are balanced. Fair enough they cost more ISK and SP.
But I do agree with the recoil, it is a bit OP in that department, but I honestly don't think ARs need nerfed. ARs already don't have a chance against heavies (at least from my experience, maybe something is wrong with my character) nerf them it'll be pointless.
EDIT: I do use tactics man don't be condescending. I do everything the bias heavies tell me to when they whine and ***** about "Shoot them from behind, circle around them, stay at range" .
I am only speaking from personal experience, I guess everyone has problems with all classes. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.12.09 01:58:00 -
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Heavies get better... effect from there skills? Can you explain this to me, where's the logic in this. I see proto assaults suits used every game with 800 total HP, and have the exact same offensive ability as a heavy. So where does that leave my big fat azz? Oh, right, I can put an HMG on and just run up at everything screaming "I"M NOT A SHOTGUN YOU CANT RUN HAHAHAHAHAHA." Then cry that I don't get enough support as I'm brought down by guns that can just outrun me, get distance, then laugh as my fat azz cries cause the only counter to it is bring a sniper.
Good times, heavy sniping.[/quote]
Well yeah they do. The difference between assault and heavy is that the heavy class can increase it's resistance to damage can it not? Increase it's own damage, range and just about everything the assault class can. Difference is that the heavy takes less damage, outputs more damage due to the HMG's HP rating and proficiency levels, the HMG's RoF fires much faster than the assault rifle in turn dealing more damage while taking less.
Well yes you can do that, 'cuz I've seen it happen: group of 5-7 soldiers taken out by one heavy. He walks away basically untouched still has half armour. Heavies kill most people who try to 'outrun' them; more damage to the back of them while they run.
Maybe it'll get easier with Ewar? It is the beta so not everything is ironed out yet. I'm sure there will be more methods to taking them out in the final release... Maybe i'm not thinking about that as much as I should, but I really hope people don't moan about Ewar like they do on EVE.
Sorry for making it about heavies guys... Wasn't my intention, I was just using the phrase 'If ARs get nerfed so should Heavies' to make my point on ARs clear.
But new recoil for ARs definitely. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.12.09 02:06:00 -
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Damn it. I've been misinformed -_-
Yeah I agree, everyone has a different experience, it's what makes the game so diverse.
Lol Imagine it was you :P.
I don't know! when I try to quote it does the same thing.
I never was good at forums :P.
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Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.12.17 19:07:00 -
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Bhor Derri wrote:Everyone seems to be using type-ll type-b or vk.1 theese days , stupid playerbase -_-
600,000 SP to get the b series :O :(
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