DUST Search - AR's need a nerf.

ImMortal SoLDieR X wrote:

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OK, Goat of Dover, thx for understanding and reading, what i posted. I have a Question for you and all others that wanna nerf the AR. What wepon will replace it, the laser rifle? What wepon are you gonna give me that will allow you to compete mid range. By Mid range I mean 50-80 meters. Maybe as YOU mentioned, the STRAFE, being slowed down from last build is the issue. I dunno, I have np with the AR, and i get gunned down quite easily.

AR is SUPPOSED to be the KING OF MID RANGE, Not the SMG, Not the scrambler pistol, and SECOND IN LINE, should be those laser rifles and dude they are deadly just not alot ppl use them. So proposing a nerf of the AR, places you in the scope of the laser. The slow Strafe, makes it kinda hard to get outta the way of a weapon that gets stronger as the beam stays on you...... Maybe, just maybe its the strafe, and WE here, dont really see that and blame it on the weapon.

Oh b4 i forget Bhor Derri do you kiss your moms with that mouth? (ffs) eat some soap kid, and join the RIF program. My posts ARE structured. READING COMPREHENSION IS NOT OVERRATED. Twisted

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Dust Goon Doomheim 22	Posted - 2012.12.03 14:05:00 - [1] - Quote Just read the entire thread and it amazes me that not a single one of you muppets has mentioned that there's about 8 different types of assault rifles all specialised in different ways, maybe the snipers are getting picked off by the tac assault rifles and the shotgun fairys are getting killed by the GEKs, they for example are 2 totally different rifles which if switched around, the sniper would kill the high ROF/DPS GEK user because of their range advantage while the shotgun fairy would out DPS the tac rifle user due to the shorter range and higher ROF he has on the shotgun. It's all relative to the situation and the individual AR's and not a single person in this thread has mentioned specific AR's being OP in specific roles which is what they have, you've all instead bashed every single AR rather than single a specific issue on a specific rifle. If all the AR users was using the Breach you wouldn't see a single complaint . Also all the posts about their being more % of kills from AR's is obvious, it's nothing to do with AR being more powerful than other weapons, it's to do with the number of users using them. It's simple math.
Dust Goon Doomheim 22	Posted - 2012.12.05 00:05:00 - [2] - Quote They do need an increase in recoil i think, but even then it would only really effect the shorter ranged, higher ROF AR's. Think's like the Codewish (Which has been my baby for the last 3 builds) wouldn't really see any change. The recoil ain't an issue if the rifle is used how i use it (How it's intended, Med/Long range, high precision) I.E How it's intended! The Tac rifles, while i love them, i've always said they would need a nerf and i think a ROF cap would be the best choice for that along with maybe introducing a module to increase ROF on weapons, have a specific type of ROF module for each class of weapons. A lot of people talk about the Codewish being P2W because of the fitting requirements but i really don't think that makes any actual difference to a persons play style, especially once you unlock Protosuits and have all that extra CPU/PG.
Dust Goon Doomheim 22	Posted - 2012.12.05 03:49:00 - [3] - Quote fred orpaul wrote: Jarlaxle Xorlarrin wrote: Don't need a nerf. They are fine this build and they were fine last. The Tact. AR needs fixed, but other than that they're pretty solid. I don't know if you knew this, but ARs should be versatile, because that's kinda what they are build to be. A Jack of All Trades. I think the phrase is jack of all trades master of none. am I right?? lets see ars will beat out a LR and SR at range, an SMG in every thing but knife range. a heavy at any range. yea not really a jack of all trades more of a win button. If the ar is not fixed by nexxt SP reset Im going AR just to prove my point. It will be fun not having to really work for my kills. oh and for any one that wants to say I don't know what I am talking about my roommate built an AR alt hes become so overconfident with the AR that hes jumping in the stupidest situations and still coming out with >2-1k/d on average. Guess I shouldn't complain to much I can still stomp most people one on one, and its made me a far better player. fear me next build FEAR ME!! Again, it depends on what AR you go up against, either that or you're just terrible at the game. I've played AR EVERY build so far and i can say you're totally wrong. Especially against SMG's when you're in SMG range. I get slaughtered by people with an SMG while using a Tac rifle. Take note of the rifles that are killing you and give us specific examples and actual data or don't bother posting in an actual discussion thread, base you complaints up with FACTS not general assumptions and general comments. Ydubbs81 RND wrote: ARs have recoil....go full auto and you'll see they'll go straight up. But forget that.....this is a futuristic game. Guns are made with plasma bullets or whatever the hell the description says. There shouldn't be any recoil on futuristic assault rifles Being futuristic is one thing, being balanced is another thing totally and if you think that by keeping thing "futuristic" you're going to gain an advantage you're wrong because balance is the most important part of a game like this. ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote: AR's seem overpowered because people who are good at FPS' (regnum zitro's proto me etc etc etc) are used to Assaults, how they work and how to use them efficiently while having the aim to back them up. It may seen like they're OP but wait until the game gets released and there is more talent, more skilled HMG's etc. People don't take other peoples SP into account either, for the first day or so when i'm training corp skills i got nuked by everyone because i didn't even have basic fitting skills. Maybe your fits are bad and you have terrible tank and it's nothign at all to do with the AR damage. Maybe people should post their fittings too when complaining about a specific weapon being OP.
Dust Goon Doomheim 22	Posted - 2012.12.06 02:38:00 - [4] - Quote Finn Kempers wrote: Its a broken gun and we all know it will be fixed for the next build. End of argument. NEXT! Helpful, get out fuckwit.
Dust Goon Doomheim 22	Posted - 2012.12.07 13:55:00 - [5] - Quote ImMortal SoLDieR X wrote: START TRANSMISSION........................ OK, Goat of Dover, thx for understanding and reading, what i posted. I have a Question for you and all others that wanna nerf the AR. What wepon will replace it, the laser rifle? What wepon are you gonna give me that will allow you to compete mid range. By Mid range I mean 50-80 meters. Maybe as YOU mentioned, the STRAFE, being slowed down from last build is the issue. I dunno, I have np with the AR, and i get gunned down quite easily. AR is SUPPOSED to be the KING OF MID RANGE, Not the SMG, Not the scrambler pistol, and SECOND IN LINE, should be those laser rifles and dude they are deadly just not alot ppl use them. So proposing a nerf of the AR, places you in the scope of the laser. The slow Strafe, makes it kinda hard to get outta the way of a weapon that gets stronger as the beam stays on you...... Maybe, just maybe its the strafe, and WE here, dont really see that and blame it on the weapon. Oh b4 i forget Bhor Derri do you kiss your moms with that mouth? (ffs) eat some soap kid, and join the RIF program. My posts ARE structured. READING COMPREHENSION IS NOT OVERRATED. END TRANSMISSION........................... Make your god damn posts readable child and then you may get a reasonable reply.
Dust Goon Doomheim 22	Posted - 2012.12.07 20:22:00 - [6] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: Great now the grammar nazies are coming out stating that certain posters thoughts are dumb (or just ridiculing him) because the post was not typed with all grammar. Guess what unless it is required for proper understanding of what is being said (which it was not) then you are just being a freaking idiot. If you dont like what he says then argue the points that you think are not valid. I'm more than happy to have a sensible discussion without something being grammatically correct. I'm not the best myself with spelling and grammar but at the least i make an effort to have my posts structured so they are easily readable by other members. I certainly don't to start and end my "transmissions" either. I'm putting together a large post for some actual discussion on several topics such as balance and economics and they will be troll free zones and heavily moderated and it would be nice to know that the community can actually pull together to try and bring something relevant to the table every once in awhile rather than just trolling each other, i troll myself so i know how tempting it can be but it would be nice to keep a reasonable level of discussion going on several threads at least.
Dust Goon Doomheim 22	Posted - 2012.12.08 14:19:00 - [7] - Quote Bhor Derri wrote: Dissonant Zan wrote: thread just won't die... You see it's because people agree that ARs are broken and the AR users are Damn right obvious as they QQ their a$$ about a potential nerf. And when the scrambler rifle comes out it probably will be OP too so nerf ARs not Blasters. And I'll lose faith in CCP if they listen to all theese AR kids or immature beings. Don't stereotype, i'm an AR user and i don't QQ about it, i do my beta testing and suggest fixes. Protoman, i think people's fittings are an important aspect of it and something that a lot of people don't consider. When i start the new thread i'll insist people post their fittings too.