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Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2012.10.04 03:47:00 -
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Because I can barely afford replacing items after I lose them in matches repeatedly with this new isk nerf , revert it back to the way it was before this build please |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2012.10.04 03:56:00 -
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What equipment are you using? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.04 04:11:00 -
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60K is the most I made from one battle today. I seen some people use advanced equipment in many of those battles, so it seemed weird that the payout was still so low. |
From Costa Rica
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
66
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Posted - 2012.10.04 04:52:00 -
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Use millitia until you can spare a lot of money. |
Umbat Boki
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
157
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Posted - 2012.10.04 05:58:00 -
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I agree, It's hard to afford even militia items. I use SkinLogi (the that's reward for corp battles and is free) with Mass Driver (don't have militia version) and all other militia items. It costs me about 14k. For full match I receive only from 50k to 100k ISK and this value seems to not scale well with WP earned. One battle I received about 300 WP and earned ~50k ISK, the other one I received ~1k WP and earned about 60k. However, in order to get more kills in the second battle I died more and ended up with negative income.
It should be fine that I need to farm in some low grade dropsuites in order to afford the best one, but in the current state I need to farm in starter fittings in order to afford militia gear and I has never been in to bottom of the list (usually somewhere in the middle), hence someone play worse than me. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.10.04 06:53:00 -
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i get anywhere from 150k-300k per match |
dust badger
BetaMax.
283
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Posted - 2012.10.04 06:54:00 -
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yeah never drops bellow 150k |
Kosen Driago
WarRavens
25
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Posted - 2012.10.04 07:22:00 -
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I'm going to have to agree... ISK and awards should be increased. I'm barely getting enough ISK per match to support 3 militia items and the first laser rifle. Is ISK and SP earning instantaneous (not passive) by the way? I havent noticed it, but if not, it should be. |
Vickers S Grunt
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
67
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Posted - 2012.10.04 09:20:00 -
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naa donated 1 mill to corp wasted 1 millon tanks still got 3 mill left i dont think we need more isk |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.10.04 10:03:00 -
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ISK is fine. Stop dying so much/using such expensive items. |
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.10.04 10:12:00 -
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isk nerf? im fine for cash thus far... |
Gcember
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.10.04 10:12:00 -
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I think it is great now, the decrease of ISK makes you more cautious about your gear and it feels more like that you actually have worked for something. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.04 10:18:00 -
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Actually, most battles we're doing at the moment are low-earning contratcs. Expect the game to offer bigger ones in the future. Also, ISK earned depends on how expensive are the modules\vehicles etc... used by people you fight against.
With the new slow SP progression, it explains why battles earned fewer ISK than before
Even though, i still manage to get an average 150K -200K ISK per game. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
191
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Posted - 2012.10.04 11:40:00 -
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I have no problems with the isk reward, i got lesser than 90k only one time and i sucked hard in that game. |
GarryKE
Omnispace Trading Company
60
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Posted - 2012.10.04 13:14:00 -
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I kept all my starter kits for this reason. If you get low on ISK and/or SP you still got a solution to fall back upon until you can save yourself some ISK. In the case of some of these players it's more than likely what they done. I'm running around with a prototype weapon and Assault-II dropsuit with like 30 fits because I saved and saved until my piggy bank got overweight. You've also got a way to swap playstyle if you get bored of your current one.
But I don't think ISK should be increased. It's quite alright how it is. You earn -60k if you didn't do much or come right at the end of the battle. If you were there at the start and do really well you'll get over 2.2k ISK but more averagely over 100k.
The only other thing I recommend is checking out the militia market area for stuff. Militia gear is now consumable but it's really cheap and should help more than default starter fits.
This build isn't slapping you in the face with your huge wallet and I quite like that personally |
Whispercrow
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.04 13:23:00 -
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1. Get Aurum. 2. Buy Militia BPO's. 3. Kill people while losing no money 4. Profit!
Seriously, if you don't have the Merc Pack, get it. Yeah, people will complain, but you're helping fund the development of a game which is otherwise free. You also get a nifty scout suit.
The three Mag suits are equivalent to Type-I suits of their class, but BPO. This is REALLY REALLY good. If you got the Merc Pack before the MAG suits, check in each day, they will rotate through and sell them. You can pick them up and they are way better than the crappy designs that start you with. You get all your Aurum back eventually anyway.
Each of the Aurum BPO's is like 30 AUR. So if nothing else, chuck like $5 toward the game and just buy them up.
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If you got the Skinweave Suits, any of them, congratulations, this makes this much easier. If not... D'oh.
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Also... go vehicles. Depending on your race choice, you either get the Baloch Impact or the Onikuma Impact. Last patch the Baloch was better, but now the Onikuma is preferable for butt-kicking. Get the BPO's you need until you have a free vehicle. If your gun skills are too low, try learning how to run around the field mowing people down. If you have the Baloch you're kinda stuck with a sub-par free vehicle for killing, but you CAN get the Vehicle Clone Respawn Unit and fit that on it, providing a free moving Spawn Point for your team, so if you like support, you can get points that way fairly easy. Sadly, the Onikuma just doesn't have the PG to fit it.
Learn to run around like an extra on Mad Max and run people over. Learn to speed-switch to your turret when solo. Etc. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:16:00 -
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Is war points earned a major factor in ISK rewards? It could explain the ISK earning difference. I'm playing pretty much the same as last build, and I still can't get more than 60k. |
Conraire
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:31:00 -
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It's based on Warpoints and contribution to the total WP pool of the team. Basically the contract pays out X amount, divided among those that participate. Your division is based on your WP % compared to the total WP earned for the team. These dudes that are getting craptons of ISK, are the ones most likely abusing the Vehicle crash and repair exploit.
And btw, I have already seen one of em running around in Proto Gear. 2 days after the New build went live, QQing cause they already hit the weekly SP cap. |
Mira Adari
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:42:00 -
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There is a bug concerning restocking militia items using the fitting menu. The prices are much higher than they are supposed to be. Restock using the market when using Militia Gear, it will save you tons of money. Here is a thread about the bug in Tech and the original thread in General. |
Matobar
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:58:00 -
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I've been using the starter builds only, but I've still been getting far less ISK per match this build than I have been in previous builds. In Precursor I was netting at least 100k per match, even if I didn't do that well. But this build, even if I do awesome in a match, the max I've received is just inder 90k ISK. I don't know if this is a bug/some new way of calculating ISK, but as of right now I can't afford to switch my build away from a starter build because I just don't make enough money. |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:03:00 -
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Its been the the same story every single build.
New build + wipe eveyone is running scrub gear at the start.
Payouts linked to gear used and lost in that battle.
Scrub gear = poor payouts.
Over time better gear gets used = Payouts go up.
Its been like this each and every time.
Hope this helps.
TLDR. Its will get better in time. |
jallukaa
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:33:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Its been the the same story every single build.
New build + wipe eveyone is running scrub gear at the start.
Payouts linked to gear used and lost in that battle.
Scrub gear = poor payouts.
Over time better gear gets used = Payouts go up.
Its been like this each and every time.
Hope this helps.
TLDR. Its will get better in time.
But what with vehicles like tanks and dropships and fit for them. Now it pretty horrible to spare ISK on fit for vehicles.
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:40:00 -
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Yes like it is evey singe time we have a wipe. |
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