H. At long range, the scouts lol at your pathetic bunny hop attempts. 2 hit KO.

Not commenting on the rest of it. But I would like to point out that 'bunny hopping' actually makes it easier for snipers to hit you as compared to just running over rough terrain (the difference is more marked for scout and assault, but still on heavy) as a 'hop' gives a smooth arc whereas running has random 'ups and downs'. It also looks incredibly silly.

dunno when 10 and 5 in heavy suit militia with laser rifle, wondering what a type 1 and HMG would grant.

Heavies are now the worst class. Borderline useless. Why? Because of OB's. There is no need for the heavy class anymore.
As if they weren't slow enough before, they are now even slower. I made an alt so I could spec into being a heavy, and I got picked off by everything. At close range, shotgunners demolish you even if you have a HMG. At medium range, Lasers and AR's demolish you. At long range, the scouts lol at your pathetic bunny hop attempts. 2 hit KO.

Here is the combat "triangle" for the heavy.


Shotgunners>
Assault>
Scouts > Heavies.
Anything else infantry>


Now heres what a heavies damage output is.

Heavy>LAVs.
Heavy>Lucky shot with forge gun on sniper
Heavy>Lucky shot with forge gun on assault.
Heavy>Any installation that isn't manned. Otherwise you're F***ed because you're so slow.
Heavy>Lucky shot with forge gun on anything else.

Shouldn't heavies have SOME sort of offensive infantry capabilities? And to top it all off, the heavy's turn speed is slower than other classes.

Agree/Disagree/Why/Why Not?

HowDidThatTaste seems to disagree with you. Every time I kittening saw him this morning he had an HMG or a Forge Gun & he was going to town. I managed to drive him off once or twice but he was always able to find cover before I could deliver the finishing blow.

people talk about the heavy suit itself as if it is some huge boon. i submit that it is in fact, a liability.

the last build should have been all the proof you need to show that there is more to survivability than raw buffer HP. why was the scout a perfectly valid frontline infantry option? because mobility, regeneration, and size are ALL factors in survivability as well. all factors in which the heavy is DEAD last.

mobility and size i shouldn't need to explain. the heavy is slow and huge, and therefore very easy to hit.

regeneration is an aggregate of several factors, potential armor repair, shield recharge rate, shield recharge delay, the ability to avoid fire long enough for the shield to recharge at all, and even the ratios of shield to armor. (best recharge stats in the world wouldn't matter much if max shield was 1)

looking at all these, the heavy is ALSO terrible. it's buffer of hitpoints is acquired mainly from armor, not shields. it's poor slot layout heavily restricts its potential armor regeneration. the low shield hp it has also comes with terrible recharge stats. so this puts the heavy dead last in the class of regeneration.

one could argue that you could get around this poor regeneration by having a logi bro nearby with a repair kit, but you know whats even better than 1 heavy and 1 logi repairing him? 2 assaults both shooting their guns at the enemy...

all these factors combine to make heavy suits surprisingly easy to kill in anything but a toe to toe DPS race, and even if the heavy wins that, he'll lose the next one because he'll more than likely START it half dead. the best case scenario for the heavy is to die the death of a thousand cuts.


and that doesn't even get into the fact that the heavy lacks an equipment slot. so it's also dead last in utility.

if i can get kills with a stick, does that make sticks a valid and balanced weapon?

you can talk about managing to go positive with it all day, but the fact of the matter is i was a serious business heavy 3 builds ago. i managed about a 2:1 KDR with it then.

i've since been trapped into the heavy starting role ever since (every build i mean to delete my character and choose a new starting profession, but i always forget until i've played enough games that it really doesn't matter)

the fact of the matter is i now do BETTER in militia assault equipment than in basic heavy equipment. we can prattle on about personal playstyle all day, but i probably didn't suddenly get ******** at heavy suits as a new build came out, and suddenly get awesome at assault suites at the same time. (at the last wipe my kdr was about 6:1 that's triple what i was getting as a heavy, at it's BEST)