I would see if they truly are OP, but alas, even the cheapest gear is super-expensive in this game, so I have no hope of ever testing it out for myself.

It's super OP. full auto tactical rifle is insane. Standard rifle has ZERO recoil. Hipfire doesn't seem to decrease accuracy. I say this all as someone who has run Proto Assault with assault rifles all 3 builds. It was fine last build, but the changes to accuracy are... bad. Still to test the breach one.
It requires no more skill than an SMG. I.e. hold R1 = win.
Wtf were you thinking CCP? Who asked for more accurate ARs? Same person as asked for a mass driver buff? LoL
Did stats really suggest the AR needed this buff?

I love the accurate hipfire, and do NOT want to see hipfire accuracy nerfed. I love games that have accurate hipfire, and I find them very rare.
Recoil is what the assault rifle needs, or range cut.

>People complaining how ARs are OP
>Not knowing how to use other weapons to their full potential
>Using weak dropsuits

Unless you're having problems with ISK, you may need to rethink your gameplay strategy... and aiming.

Btw, ever played Sleepy Zan with his sniper? He never had problems taking out other classes.

When someone with the basic AR, at the edge of my range, outguns me (I've got a laser rifle with a light damage modifier, and some skills increasing range and damage, while reducing heat generation) something is wrong there.

i think a big part of why u think ARs are OP is because everyone uses them, u get killed more by badass AR users than anything else,

everyone uses a militia AR at the start wich really influences alot of people to keep their ARs, now if there was a militia HMG, LR, and MD then it might be a little different

The AR isn't OP. Anyone who has played in a prototype only match know that the prototype HMG and SMG are just as good as the AR.

Stop crying because someone killed you and get good.

qq thread.

Seriously the prototype SMG, HMG, and sniper rifle wreck everything. Even AR users.

People cry about the AR because it is the most popular weapon and they get killed by it the most.

Who cares if you have played with every weapon. Have played in a match where everyone is using prototype weapons? ARs are not the god mode of higher end game play. sniper rifles, HMGs, SMGs, and sniper rifles kill everything just the same.. Congratulations you are wrong. The AR is just what is used the most in pub lobbies.


Seriously the AR is OP compared to what? dropships, tanks, proto SMGs, proto HMGs PROTO SHOTGUNS. You are so wrong right now its hilarious.

Boundless smg beats AR in cqc every time. boundless HMG will almost always win against an AR medium range, unless you spin around them or have several people shooting him. Sniper wins from long range. The game is working as intended. You are just crying.

Congratulations you are pathetic??? Get good and stop crying about ARs scrub.

Honestly for someone who claims they have used every prototype you don't know how deadly the boundless SMG and HMG are? You are full of **** and you know it.

I don't really understand the complaints about ARs when I'm pretty sure the general idea behind them is to be good at as many things as possible, but not as good in each one as a specialized weapon would be. I mean, the Tactical rifle is pretty damn dangerous at longer ranges, but I can burn down someone with one of those in seconds with my Laser Rifle.

AR are over-powered ? Compared to what ?
They're simply more versatile weapons than the rest. But they're way less effective than specialized weapon in some kind of situations :

Close quarters : Shotgun > AR
Middle range with cover : Laser > AR
Long range : Sniper > AR

And that's just for light weapons. If you had sidearms of heavy in the mix it's even worse....
The real advantage of the AR is that you can go from somewhat long-range, mid-range and close quarter without feeling a real handicap. And yes i tried all of those.


I'll just agree with the lack of recoil in this build that is kinda noobish... especially with no skill at all

Let me try and break this down for you in a polite way. When people are using the same meta level weapons the AR isn't anymore overpowered then the hmg or smg. We saw this in the proto gear only battles that we did. I understand that the AR might need tweaking but naming this thread AR is OP without fully understanding how it works vs other weapons of its meta level really annoys me.


Its threads like this that are actually doing more damage to the balance of this game then it is helping.