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Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.10.03 00:55:00 - [1] - Quote Is awesome. It makes people actually use the cover factor instead of dancing. Squad tactics are now viable around the new maps. Props to you CCP. It's looking great.
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:17:00 - [2] - Quote Debacle Nano wrote: Is awesome. It makes people actually use the cover factor instead of dancing. Squad tactics are now viable around the new maps. Props to you CCP. It's looking great. Yeah. this game is alot more 'squat and tuck tail' now. It being "awesome" is very much a subjective term
Khortez D Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:19:00 - [3] - Quote this is never gonna die.. oh well
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:20:00 - [4] - Quote Nope its trash. I spend most off my time playing the game running around the map looking for campers. The maps are huge and people are still to scared to move around the map. Its pathetic. I tried to play the game for a few hours today and I literally fell asleep in my chair after about an hour or two. zZzzzZzz Maybe next build will be better but this one is pretty boring.
Daddrobit Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 277	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:21:00 - [5] - Quote Debacle Nano wrote: Is awesome. It makes people actually use the cover factor instead of dancing. Squad tactics are now viable around the new maps. Props to you CCP. It's looking great. Also lasers.
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:23:00 - [6] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: Is awesome. It makes people actually use the cover factor instead of dancing. Squad tactics are now viable around the new maps. Props to you CCP. It's looking great. Also lasers. Pew Pew.
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:24:00 - [7] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Nope its trash. I spend most off my time playing the game running around the map looking for campers. The maps are huge and people are still to scared to move around the map. Its pathetic. I tried to play the game for a few hours today and I literally fell asleep in my chair after about an hour or two. zZzzzZzz To bad you can't buy gun with all that AUR. Yup. This game has become wayyyyyy too cover-based for its own good
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:26:00 - [8] - Quote Too bad the cover and maps in general is garbage...
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:29:00 - [9] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Too bad the cover and maps in general is garbage... i won't argue with you on that
Nstomper Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0 205	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:37:00 - [10] - Quote All we need is a player increase

Smoke2Bowls ZionTCD Legacy Rising 93	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:39:00 - [11] - Quote Nstomper wrote: All we need is a player increase What?
Valentine Crendre ZionTCD Legacy Rising 12	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:42:00 - [12] - Quote Smoke2Bowls wrote: Nstomper wrote: All we need is a player increase What? What, What?
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:47:00 - [13] - Quote I don't know what you all are talking about. I do just fine.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:54:00 - [14] - Quote Debacle Nano wrote: I don't know what you all are talking about. I do just fine. I do just fine too. This build is still a ****** campfest. I guess its fun if you like to sit and camp in one place, while you just sit there and camp on your couch in real life. Lifes to short to camp tbh. You can call it using cover all you want. We all know you are just camping. You were 6-1 after a full match. Yeah you are really helping your team.
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.10.03 01:55:00 - [15] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: I don't know what you all are talking about. I do just fine. I do just fine too. This build is still a ****** campfest. I guess its fun if you like to sit and camp in one place, while you just sit there and camp on your couch in real life. Lifes to short to camp tbh. You can call it using cover all you want. We all know you are just camping. You were 6-1 after a full match. Yeah you are really helping your team. I don't think you've played with me. I don't stay in one area. :P
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:00:00 - [16] - Quote So many tear's. Its great. I have had no problems with the build whatsoever, but I do think that strafe speed needs a ^^^EVER SO SLIGHT^^^ buff. Not enough to make it a dance fest, but to make strafing viable for scouts. People trying to strafe in Assault suits are stupid though, thats not really the point of Assault suits. Assault suits need to think more to win, Heavies soak up damage, and scouts are mobile. But seriously, the amount of crying by a few members of the community makes me a little more than suspicious that the fact isn't that its broken as much as that they just don't like being in a competitive playing field. Which I just know, "a competitive playing fields" definition is gonna get argued over, but I know what it is.
Khortez D Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:02:00 - [17] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: So many tear's. Its great. I have had no problems with the build whatsoever, but I do think that strafe speed needs a ^^^EVER SO SLIGHT^^^ buff. Not enough to make it a dance fest, but to make strafing viable for scouts. People trying to strafe in Assault suits are stupid though, thats not really the point of Assault suits. Assault suits need to think more to win, Heavies soak up damage, and scouts are mobile. But seriously, the amount of crying by a few members of the community makes me a little more than suspicious that the fact isn't that its broken as much as that they just don't like being in a competitive playing field. Which I just know, "a competitive playing fields" definition is gonna get argued over, but I know what it is. its worked for me in my assault suit
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:03:00 - [18] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: So many tear's. Its great. I have had no problems with the build whatsoever, but I do think that strafe speed needs a ^^^EVER SO SLIGHT^^^ buff. Not enough to make it a dance fest, but to make strafing viable for scouts. People trying to strafe in Assault suits are stupid though, thats not really the point of Assault suits. Assault suits need to think more to win, Heavies soak up damage, and scouts are mobile. But seriously, the amount of crying by a few members of the community makes me a little more than suspicious that the fact isn't that its broken as much as that they just don't like being in a competitive playing field. Which I just know, "a competitive playing fields" definition is gonna get argued over, but I know what it is. Why yes. Thanks for the constructive opinion. +1
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:16:00 - [19] - Quote Your welcome. Also, I forgot to note, the maps need more cover, especially around objective areas. Open ground is great and all, but it is hard not to get sniped when taking an objective now. Crates, vehicles, pipes, barricades, defenses would all be great. Another thing is that it would be nice if the objectives could get switched around several random locations every match for simple variety. Larger playercounts might help the camping issues, since more people can battle for the objectives instead of waiting for a player to come for them. Also, I honestly think aim assist should be completely removed. That feature DOES dumb down combat. Computer assisted aiming does not have a place in online FPS's. Otherwise, I find this to be a great patch so far. Liking it or not is simply a personal taste between styles of shooter, though.
Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:21:00 - [20] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: So many tear's. Its great. I have had no problems with the build whatsoever, but I do think that strafe speed needs a ^^^EVER SO SLIGHT^^^ buff. Not enough to make it a dance fest, but to make strafing viable for scouts. People trying to strafe in Assault suits are stupid though, thats not really the point of Assault suits. Assault suits need to think more to win, Heavies soak up damage, and scouts are mobile. But seriously, the amount of crying by a few members of the community makes me a little more than suspicious that the fact isn't that its broken as much as that they just don't like being in a competitive playing field. Which I just know, "a competitive playing fields" definition is gonna get argued over, but I know what it is. I agree with this. You hit the suits on the head, cover if you are an assault, but don't just cover cover and push for an advantage. If you are a Heavy then push straight up the middle that is your job( I think that they need an armor boost personally, 1 AR clip and one is down that should not be). Lastly the scout take them down with nothing maybe 7 rounds but the need to be faster. A scouts job is to be way ahead and scanning the battlefield not making their team mates wait behind them because they are being followed by the assaults which are just a little bit slower than they are. With scouts being effective. I think that a scout should never run an AR, either use a SG or a SR. That is a scout in your face and blowing off your head or you never saw it till the bullet hit your visor. I mowed down way to many scouts with hip fire because the could not come at me quick enough. So over all I like it. Heavies need a little bit more armor and scouts just a little bit faster, and I think that they have it in the money.

Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:22:00 - [21] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: So many tear's. Its great. I have had no problems with the build whatsoever, but I do think that strafe speed needs a ^^^EVER SO SLIGHT^^^ buff. Not enough to make it a dance fest, but to make strafing viable for scouts. People trying to strafe in Assault suits are stupid though, thats not really the point of Assault suits. Assault suits need to think more to win, Heavies soak up damage, and scouts are mobile. But seriously, the amount of crying by a few members of the community makes me a little more than suspicious that the fact isn't that its broken as much as that they just don't like being in a competitive playing field. Which I just know, "a competitive playing fields" definition is gonna get argued over, but I know what it is. The competitive aspect of cqc has been almost completely removed. We want a competitive game.... So what competitive playing fields are you talking about? Are you talking about the massive camping in this build? Camping takes very very little skill.
Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:29:00 - [22] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: So many tear's. Its great. I have had no problems with the build whatsoever, but I do think that strafe speed needs a ^^^EVER SO SLIGHT^^^ buff. Not enough to make it a dance fest, but to make strafing viable for scouts. People trying to strafe in Assault suits are stupid though, thats not really the point of Assault suits. Assault suits need to think more to win, Heavies soak up damage, and scouts are mobile. But seriously, the amount of crying by a few members of the community makes me a little more than suspicious that the fact isn't that its broken as much as that they just don't like being in a competitive playing field. Which I just know, "a competitive playing fields" definition is gonna get argued over, but I know what it is. The competitive aspect of cqc has been almost completely removed. We want a competitive game.... So what competitive playing fields are you talking about? Are you talking about the massive camping in this build? Camping takes very very little skill. I will admit there has been some camping, but I will also say that in the about 10 matches that I have played I was not to bad. I have a lot of camping issues in ambush more that skirmish though. People tend to take the high ground and try to hold it. However this maybe a pain it is a very good tactic and, It wont go anywhere as far as ambush goes. For skirmish though there is to much area to say you can't come up with a tactic to take out campers. Also along the idea of camping I learned the first night that if you hold still you will be hit with a PS or an OB very soon and, those things come down really fast.
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:31:00 - [23] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: So many tear's. Its great. I have had no problems with the build whatsoever, but I do think that strafe speed needs a ^^^EVER SO SLIGHT^^^ buff. Not enough to make it a dance fest, but to make strafing viable for scouts. People trying to strafe in Assault suits are stupid though, thats not really the point of Assault suits. Assault suits need to think more to win, Heavies soak up damage, and scouts are mobile. But seriously, the amount of crying by a few members of the community makes me a little more than suspicious that the fact isn't that its broken as much as that they just don't like being in a competitive playing field. Which I just know, "a competitive playing fields" definition is gonna get argued over, but I know what it is. The competitive aspect of cqc has been almost completely removed. We want a competitive game.... So what competitive playing fields are you talking about? Are you talking about the massive camping in this build? Camping takes very very little skill. I barely see any campers, unless you are talking about snipers. This build means you just cant move back and forth with ease when an enemy pops out. You have to strategize, find cover, and move along that cover.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:35:00 - [24] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: So many tear's. Its great. I have had no problems with the build whatsoever, but I do think that strafe speed needs a ^^^EVER SO SLIGHT^^^ buff. Not enough to make it a dance fest, but to make strafing viable for scouts. People trying to strafe in Assault suits are stupid though, thats not really the point of Assault suits. Assault suits need to think more to win, Heavies soak up damage, and scouts are mobile. But seriously, the amount of crying by a few members of the community makes me a little more than suspicious that the fact isn't that its broken as much as that they just don't like being in a competitive playing field. Which I just know, "a competitive playing fields" definition is gonna get argued over, but I know what it is. Actually, I couldn't understand the strafe speed complaints until I played the game again today, and started getting kills again, thereby coming to the horrible realization that the 0/11 match I had yesterday was due to me TRYING TO LEAD MY TARGETS. The reason I never experienced all the latency issues of the previous builds was because I thought leading your targets was something we were supposed to be doing. But nope. Hitscan. The hitscan mechanic is the problem, ladies and gentlemen. If all your enemy has to do to kill you is keep the little dot on you and tap a button a slow strafe speed means that everyone just dies instantly. I seriously hope that this new hit detection system gives them the confidence to implement ballistics calculation, because we're going to have a damn hard time getting people to take our game seriously if it runs on hitscan.
Khortez D Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:42:00 - [25] - Quote i can still dodge to an extent, but i can't dodge vehicles anymore
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:46:00 - [26] - Quote I mean, obviously something like a laser should be a hitscan weapon, but I thought that was one of the reasons for its lower initial damage in order to balance it against what I thought were the slower moving shots of the plasma ARs. Switching from hitscan to actual ballistics calculation would not only increase the skill ceiling involved in shooting, but would help to differentiate weapons more.
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.10.03 02:54:00 - [27] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: I mean, obviously something like a laser should be a hitscan weapon, but I thought that was one of the reasons for its lower initial damage in order to balance it against what I thought were the slower moving shots of the plasma ARs. Switching from hitscan to actual ballistics calculation would not only increase the skill ceiling involved in shooting, but would help to differentiate weapons more. Yea I don't know much about hitscan. Or the other stuff so I can't say much.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.03 03:01:00 - [28] - Quote Debacle Nano wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: I mean, obviously something like a laser should be a hitscan weapon, but I thought that was one of the reasons for its lower initial damage in order to balance it against what I thought were the slower moving shots of the plasma ARs. Switching from hitscan to actual ballistics calculation would not only increase the skill ceiling involved in shooting, but would help to differentiate weapons more. Yea I don't know much about hitscan. Or the other stuff so I can't say much. What I'm saying is that right now any shot you fire while the dot is lined up will hit the target regardless of their range or speed relative to you, eliminating the need to actually aim. All we're doing right now is "pointing". If you think about it, even magnetically accelerated, a ball of plasma would travel more slowly than a round from a railgun. When I got into this Beta, I figured that weapon shot speeds would follow a Laser(histcan)>Guass/Rail>Plasma>Bullet layout, but with all weapons being hitscan, then what's the real difference? I'm hoping that the Experimental sniper is an indication that we'll be seeing hitscan left behind now that hit detection is working better.
REGNUM CODEX DEI 46	Posted - 2012.10.03 03:02:00 - [29] - Quote Debacle Nano wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: I don't know what you all are talking about. I do just fine. I do just fine too. This build is still a ****** campfest. I guess its fun if you like to sit and camp in one place, while you just sit there and camp on your couch in real life. Lifes to short to camp tbh. You can call it using cover all you want. We all know you are just camping. You were 6-1 after a full match. Yeah you are really helping your team. I don't think you've played with me. I don't stay in one area. :P I have video footage of you and squad camping on resupply the whole ambush game... using mass drivers and forge guns LoL
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.10.03 03:04:00 - [30] - Quote REGNUM CODEX DEI wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: I don't know what you all are talking about. I do just fine. I do just fine too. This build is still a ****** campfest. I guess its fun if you like to sit and camp in one place, while you just sit there and camp on your couch in real life. Lifes to short to camp tbh. You can call it using cover all you want. We all know you are just camping. You were 6-1 after a full match. Yeah you are really helping your team. I don't think you've played with me. I don't stay in one area. :P I have video footage of you and squad camping on resupply the whole ambush game... using mass drivers and forge guns LoL Last build. Blowing all of my money. This build, I am assault and was going to go crusader suit if they introduced it. It's funny that you like to record me. It was also funny trying to see you jump.



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